Rock Paper Scissors

[victra♥]

do it white mike =D

 

[TheCresent]

white mike

i believe in you

 

[ChaosDrifter]

so i might not (read: probably will not) be able to make this monthly lol

mike you can make doubles this time, right? you might be on your own =(

ye it'll still run fine, i'll be there for doubles this time finally, which is really good now that you cant make it

i'm gonna leave stages up to mike. i would really like to see MLG stagelist + yoshi's pipes though...i think that's fair compromise?

i suck at starcraft =P btw jamie, you should watch the replay of our match. watch the build order i use - if you can copy it that's a good start

i'll think about the stages for a bit and take input from others, but i would likely lean towards MLG but also at the same time I don't want to change the list we have now much. Post here or PM me if you have any suggestions and please give reasoning if you say we should/shouldn't have a certain stage don't just say "This stage is gay, take it off"

 

[victra♥]

change that **** white mike.

mlg! mlg! mlg!

 

[Limeee]

Starter:

* Battlefield
* Final Destination
* Halberd
* Lylat Cruise
* Pokemon Stadium 1
* Smashville
* Yoshi's Island

Counter:

* Brinstar
* Castle Siege
* Delfino
* Distant Planet
* Frigate Orpheon
* Green Greens
* Jungle Japes
* Luigi's Mansion
* Norfair
* Pictochat
* Pirate Ship
* Pokémon Stadium 2
* Rainbow Cruise
* Yoshi's Island (Pipes)
* Port Town Aero Dive (SINGLES ONLY)
* Hanenbow (DOUBLES ONLY)


gay stages are bolded

 

[Frio]

Fuking keeep pipes for the love of god keep pipes. But get rid of port town. That's a homo stage

 

[victra♥]

hhahahaha jamie.

**** pipes. JUST GO WITH MLG RULES OMG. whats with alberta thinking they're too good for the official rule set? -.-

 

[TheCresent]

Lylat Cruise is the only non-gay stage

votes for lylat cruise only tournament? aye motha****aaasss!

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

just use a ruleset that make sense mike, not some bull**** one that asian mike cooked up

 

[victra♥]

dan is right.

please white mike.

 

[Limeee]

Neutral Stages:
- Battlefield
- Final Destination
- Yoshi's Island
- Smashville
- Lylat Cruise

Counter Picks:
-Pokemon Stadium 1
-Battleship Halberd
-Delfino Plaza
-Frigate Orpheon
-Castle Siege
-Rainbow Cruise
-Brinstar

your average awesome stage list
i wouldn't mind the add on of green greens, warioware, or something else

 

[victra♥]

that looks delicious imo.

white mike make it happen plzzz <3

no green greens >_>

 

[TheCresent]

^ delicious wtf!

 

[IIIIRICK]

Pictochat should be in there.

 

[victra♥]

thats the stage maiko likes the most

efff that ****

 

[Frio]

picto chat is a Cp for sure >_> Same with pipes. And norfair. And luigis >_>

 

[victra♥]

OMG. there's no norfair.

add norfair plz <3

 

[IIIIRICK]

luigis is stupid, and i play metaknight. Thats saying something.

norfair is legit

 

[Limeee]

norfair i hate, but its legit

go norfair on me i will go MK on yo *****
picto chat and luigis is fine too

so my stagelist +

PC
Norfair
Luigis

pipes is iffy

 

[TheCresent]

i think PC should be on there but not norfair and luigis

 

[IIIIRICK]

i think PC should be on there but not norfair and luigis

Agreed.:hunger:

 

[ChaosDrifter]

i think PC should be on there but not norfair and luigis

picto chat is a Cp for sure >_> Same with pipes. And norfair. And luigis >_>

guys, as I said before i'm not going to listen to any suggestion without support. I do already have somewhat of an idea of what i'm going to change though (not too much).

Edit: Also who is all bringing setups? I'd like to know how many we'll be able to have

 

[Frio]

I'll bring a et up IF you keep the stages as they are now >->

 

[T-block]

Starter Stages

Battlefield
Castle Siege
Delfino Plaza
Final Destination
Jungle Japes
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Pokémon Stadium
Smashville
Yoshi’s Island

Counter-Pick Stages

Brinstar
Frigate Orpheon
Green Greens
Norfair
Pictochat
Pokémon Stadium 2
Rainbow Cruise
Yoshi's Island (Melee)


That's my suggestion. I will argue the **** out of anyone who wants Pictochat out.

 

[victra♥]

mark has the right attitude.

edit: maiko go die

 

[T-block]

you guys whine a lot

loses distant planet, luigi's mansion, port town aero dive, pirate ship. not good enough for you guys?

 

[Yoshara]

I will be bringing a setup as always, but I am not sure about the second TV seeing as it is becoming pretty annoying to lug around two TV's and a Wii.

 

[TheCresent]

How about we try this for this tournament?

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=65971

wouldn't hurt to try it out. We tried out mikes list, and it stuck(why? I don't know). So let's give new systems a shot for once.

 

[T-block]

that post has some good ideas, but is filled with arbitrary criteria and flawed logic

i would support PS2 starter though, but good luck getting these alberta guys to agree with you

 

[Frio]

SCREW that. Wtf is ganon suppose to do? He can't even keep his *** up with the electric stage

PS2 is gannon-banned

 

[Limeee]

**** no,

ps2 should be off the list. at the very least not neutral

how would it be a neutral? it has game changing transformations, makes some characters unviable (lolganon) and is all around, not neutral material

EDIT: i actually agree with maikos stagelist minus ps2

EDIT2:inb4maiko

 

[T-block]

how many characters absolutely **** on PS2? how many character absolutely **** on FD? now, how many characters get completely screwed over by the stage, keeping in mind that electric and flying transformations offer players the ability to get through them with minimal conflict?

oh no "game changing transformations". sounds like a tyler argument

btw, jungle japes should be on my list too... i forgot MLG banned it. i'll edit it in

 

[TheCresent]

Just in case none of you read the post:

Alternate approach to Starter Stages:
Be it big or small, as stage transformations always include a positional advantage and luck factor, this can be considered Counter-pick Stage criteria (as in considering "Lack of stage transformations" a Starter Stage characteristic), moving Pokémon Stadium (Melee) and Pokémon Stadium 2 into Counter-pick Stages. In fact, all of Pokémon Stadium 2's transformations cause large positional advantages, and specially in case both characters lack projectiles, stalemates.

Which would mean:

Starter Stages [5].-
Battlefield
Final Destination
Lylat Cruise
Smashville
Yoshi’s Island (Brawl)

Counterpick Stages [6].-
Castle Siege
Delfino Plaza
Frigate Orpheon
Halberd
Pokémon Stadium (Melee)
Pokémon Stadium 2

 

[T-block]

so apparently, ps2 is not starter because of positional advantage and luck factor, pictochat is banned because of luck.

and yet yoshi's island stays starter when it the luck-**** a game just as much as pictochat can

 

[Limeee]

how many characters absolutely **** on PS2? how many character absolutely **** on FD? now, how many characters get completely screwed over by the stage, keeping in mind that electric and flying transformations offer players the ability to get through them with minimal conflict?

oh no "game changing transformations". sounds like a tyler argument

btw, jungle japes should be on my list too... i forgot MLG banned it. i'll edit it in

is PS2 random?
if so, it does have game changing transformations >.<


lets say snake is at 20%, and MK is at 110%

if the stage stayed normal, Snake would most likely take the kill (loluptilt)
if the air transformation comes, and MK gets an up air, MK can juggle snake to the top and then tornado or whatever

because of the random (again, not sure if its random) transformation, MK has evened the score when otherwise snake would still have the advantage

MK could do that whether it was wind or not, but its harder to get out of that situation during the wind phase, so the random stage change gave MK the lead

and poor ganon D:

 

[zeriph]

Starters:
Battlefield
Final Destination
Lylat Cruise
Smashville
Yoshi's Island

CPs:
Frigate Orpheon
Halberd
Castle Siege
Delfino Plaza
Norfair
Brinstar
Jungle Japes
Pokémon Stadium
Rainbow Cruise

Oh look, the perfect Brawl stage list.
Edit: You can also move Lylat to CPs and not use stage-striking.

 

[Limeee]

zeriph knows whats up

 

[TheCresent]

Mike, even I have to agree that PS2's Luck factor isn't nearly as bad as Pictochats. I'd rather have some wind, conveyor belts and ice than have hazards that actually damage me.

 

[T-block]

is PS2 random?
if so, it does have game changing transformations >.<


lets say snake is at 20%, and MK is at 110%

if the stage stayed normal, Snake would most likely take the kill (loluptilt)
if the air transformation comes, and MK gets an up air, MK can juggle snake to the top and then tornado or whatever

because of the random (again, not sure if its random) transformation, MK has evened the score when otherwise snake would still have the advantage

MK could do that whether it was wind or not, but its harder to get out of that situation during the wind phase, so the random stage change gave MK the lead

and poor ganon D:

when the transformation appears and disappears is set. which transformation it is, is unfortunately random.

lets say snake is at 20%, and MK is at 110%

MK gets a gimp on yoshi's island
forces snake the c4 recover
footstools his c4 recovery =o
then the support ghost comes and saves snake
more dancing around
MK gets u-tilted

because of the random "transformation", snake does not lose his stock and kills MK, when otherwise snake would be dead

random stage change took away MK's well-earned kill

 

[TheCresent]

Edit: You can also move Yoshi's to CPs and not use stage-striking cause Lylat Cruise is too cool for school.

fix'd dd