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Ridleys appearance as a boss character ONLY

JesterBox

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Ridley will be, logically, in Brawl. That's not to say there's no chance he won't be, but no matter what you say the supporters will remain optimistic.

That is all I will say, for this thread fails.
I agree that Ridley will be in brawl, but Pokemon Trainer kicked my logic in the balls.
 

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Wasnt a rant, I validated another why he COULD be a boss. I never said he'd be bad for a PC, I just have this bad feeling he might become one >:(
You didn't prove any points. You just said that the music could be used for a boss battle because it had commas in it and the Yoshi song didn't, which makes no sense whatsoever.

I agree that Ridley will be in brawl, but Pokemon Trainer kicked my logic in the balls.
LOL, where have you been? We lost Grim and Jopaan as Ridley supporters because you left.
 

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Yes it does. Look..


Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)" (0:36)

BOSS battle music. And it clearly says in commas, RIDLEY fight.


Composition Supervisor: Minako Hamano
Arrangement Supervisor: Yusuke Takahama

• The copyright for this music is held by Nintendo.
• Check your volume settings.

This song appears in a variety of games in the Metroid series.
It’s the theme song for Samus’s arch-nemesis, Ridley.

In the original game, most of the places where you heard this song were the sites of fierce battles. <--- Note that..

As such, this arrangement features a suitable sense of cruelty and tension. It’s magnificent!
 

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I'll make a bet.. with all the Ridley supporters that believe Ridley IS a PC.

If Ridley turns out to be a not a playable character you will put a picture in your sig that I made and is linked linked to my user profile and reads that I was correct and you were wrong about Ridley. You can have this in your sig for 6 months.

Now If I'm wrong I will write that I was a idiot because I believed Ridley wasn't a PC and I will link the names of user names to their profiles who I'm taking this bet against..
I will leave this in my sig for exactly 1 year. (6 months more..)
 

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Key words:

"In the original game, most of the places where you heard this song were the sites of fierce battles."

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@Croco:

What? Are you 14?
 

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Yes it does. Look..


Metroid: Boss Battle Music (Ridley Fight)" (0:36)

BOSS battle music. And it clearly says in commas, RIDLEY fight.


Composition Supervisor: Minako Hamano
Arrangement Supervisor: Yusuke Takahama

• The copyright for this music is held by Nintendo.
• Check your volume settings.

This song appears in a variety of games in the Metroid series.
It’s the theme song for Samus’s arch-nemesis, Ridley.

In the original game, most of the places where you heard this song were the sites of fierce battles. <--- Note that..

As such, this arrangement features a suitable sense of cruelty and tension. It’s magnificent!
No, it says "Ridley Fight" in parenthesis because there are several boss themes in the Metroid series and that particular one is used for Ridley. They could have just as easily titled it Metroid Boss Fight (Draygon) because their tunes are completely different.

I'll make a bet.. with all the Ridley supporters that believe Ridley IS a PC.

If Ridley turns out to be a not a playable character you will put a picture in your sig that I made and is linked linked to my user profile and reads that I was correct and you were wrong about Ridley. You can have this in your sig for 6 months.

Now If I'm wrong I will write that I was a idiot because I believed Ridley wasn't a PC and I will link the names of user names to their profiles who I'm taking this bet against..
I will leave this in my sig for exactly 1 year. (6 months more..)
You're on man. Everyone is looking forward to Monday's update because it's the day Prime 3 is released. Zelda was revealed on the day Phantom Hourglass was released in Japan, so it isn't just a stupid theory.
 

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LOL, where have you been? We lost Grim and Jopaan as Ridley supporters because you left.
Didn't realize I was well known. The Ridley thread went kind of.... well ya'kno. They stopped supporting Ridley because of me? weird.
 

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Didn't realize I was well known. The Ridley thread went kind of.... well ya'kno. They stopped supporting Ridley because of me? weird.
Yup. Grim said it wasn't the same without you and Jopaan, and that his heart belonged to the first Ridley thread and he just left. :ohwell:

BTW, the link in your sig is broken.
 

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This has probably been said before but i'll just say it cause today i'm too lazy to look back.

You know samus does has have 2 other main enemies.
There's also Kraid and Dark Samus. So there's always a chance that say if Ridley does make it to be part of the Roster than Kraid or Dark Samus could very well be a boss.

I feel however if Ridely were to be in the roster than he would be hidden character so chances are we wont know until after November 22nd. (This is the Japanese Release date and this date could also start the transition of revealing the real secrets such as hidden characters and stages and such.)
 

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@Croco:

What? Are you 14?
Betting makes me 14-years-old? Where is the logic in your claim?

If you accept my bet.. it means you are really %100 sure Ridley is in Brawl and that I am incorrect.
If not.. that means your doubting any of your so called "Facts" or "Truths" and that I won the argument and that all Ridley as a Boss Only supporters are not noobs.

You're on man. Everyone is looking forward to Monday's update because it's the day Prime 3 is released. Zelda was revealed on the day Phantom Hourglass was released in Japan, so it isn't just a stupid theory.
OK I've wrote your name down for later.. :)
Nice theory. Though even Dark Samus might be revealed as a PC or a Metroid stage might be revealed.. or a Metroid as a AT.. or even Ridley as a Boss. ;) The list goes on..
 

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Actually you bring a very good point.

My only fear for Ridley has always been Dark Samus itself. Think about it, you are the Developer, why go through all the trouble of doing and balancing an Overpowered Dragon when you can just add Dark Samus?

That's my only fear, but also... we could have Dark Samus and Ridley as playable chars and that would be Win, of course i also love Dark Samus, so it's a win-win situation for me.

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Betting makes me 14-years-old? Where is the logic in your claim?

If you accept my bet.. it means you are really %100 sure Ridley is in Brawl and that I am incorrect.
If not.. that means your doubting any of your so called "Facts" or "Truths" and that I won the argument and that all Ridley as a Boss Only supporters are not noobs.
That's an INmature Bet, and i'm not 100% sure that Ridley will be in, i'm not doubting my facts, i'm doubting the Developers lazyness, you see Deoxis did have potential and what happened? Pokeballed. stuff like that.

Also besides of all the n00bs spamming the Ridley thread with "told you so" would be emarasing and yet have to use a sig?

Ha, no thanks.
 

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Betting makes me 14-years-old? Where is the logic in your claim?

If you accept my bet.. it means you are really %100 sure Ridley is in Brawl and that I am incorrect.
If not.. that means your doubting any of your so called "Facts" or "Truths" and that I won the argument and that all Ridley as a Boss Only supporters are not noobs.


OK I've wrote your name down for later.. :)
Nice theory. Though even Dark Samus might be revealed as a PC or a Metroid stage might be revealed.. or a Metroid as a AT.. or even Ridley as a Boss. ;) The list goes on..
No to Dark Samus
 

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Actually you bring a very good point.

My only fear for Ridley has always been Dark Samus itself. Think about it, you are the Developer, why go through all the trouble of doing and balancing an Overpowered Dragon when you can just add Dark Samus?

That's my only fear, but also... we could have Dark Samus and Ridley as playable chars and that would be Win, of course i also love Dark Samus, so it's a win-win situation for me.
Weavel



That's an INmature Bet, and i'm not 100% sure that Ridley will be in, i'm not doubting my facts, i'm doubting the Developers lazyness, you see Deoxis did have potential and what happened? Pokeballed. stuff like that.

Also besides of all the n00bs spamming the Ridley thread with "told you so" would be emarasing and yet have to use a sig?

Ha, no thanks.
inmature? Hope that was a typo..
Anyway.. if you are that afraid then fine.. But I will be also posting in the Ridley support thread if I am correct.. and I will mention your user name..

Oh and if you feel Sakurai and his development team is being lazy because YOU and a few others believe a character has potential and he doesn't please you.. ****.. I have no words to describe my thoughts about that. If you get dissapointed that easily.. are you sure your not one who is immature?
 

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Weavel would never get in the game over Ridley or Dark Samus....

Have you even played Metroid Prime 2?
 

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Dark Samus and the hunters aren't even a third as important to the Metroid series as Ridley is. If Ridley isn't playable, then no other Metroid newcomer will be. Hell, at least Ridley has a character and backstory and motive and purpose. Dark Samus is just a mindless monster and filler villain that runs on instincts. It has no purpose but to cause trouble and give Samus a reason to go on a huge journey. Seriously, I'd hate to see that thing in Brawl. Especially being the anti Prime, hardcore Metroid fanboy I am.
 

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Dark Samus and the hunters aren't even a third as important to the Metroid series as Ridley is. If Ridley isn't playable, then no other Metroid newcomer will be. Hell, at least Ridley has a character and backstory and motive and purpose. Dark Samus is just a mindless monster and filler villain that runs on instincts. It has no purpose but to cause trouble and give Samus a reason to go on a huge journey. Seriously, I'd hate to see that thing in Brawl. Especially being the anti Prime, hardcore Metroid fanboy I am.
I'm not a Prime fan either.. but.. Weavel has any reason to be a PC as much as any other character.. even Ridley.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if Weavel or Dark Samus turned out as PCs. Even though I hope they aren't.. it is possible they might be.
Also do not forget that Dark Samus will be in Prime 3.. So her purpose might be greater then you think. She may even end up saving Samus in the end.
 

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@Shuma

Oh wow. That's totally a reason why it should be in Brawl, lol.

h3 eetz teh Faze on!!!11! conph1rmed!!1!1

@Croco

Nope. Ridley is the only other character with a personality, motive, backstory, and relationship with Samus in the entire series. Weavile and Dark Samus have nothing on him when it comes to character and series' importance.
 

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I'm not a Prime fan either.. but.. Weavel has any reason to be a PC as much as any other character.. even Ridley.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if Weavel or Dark Samus turned out as PCs. Even though I hope they aren't.. it is possible they might be.
Also do not forget that Dark Samus will be in Prime 3.. So her purpose might be greater then you think. She may even end up saving Samus in the end.

Ok the comparison of Ridley, whos been in nearly all the games to weavil whos been in one (?) is just wrong...
 

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@Croco

Nope. Ridley is the only other character with a personality, motive, backstory, and relationship with Samus in the entire series. Weavile and Dark Samus have nothing on him when it comes to character and series' importance.
I agree that Ridley is a very important character.. and has a stronger backstory. And yeah.. Weavel and Dark Samus have nothing on him.. but who says Sakurai and his development team feel the same way?

Ok the comparison of Ridley, whos been in nearly all the games to weavil whos been in one (?) is just wrong...
So I have a question for the both of you..
Do you feel Team Rocket from Pokemon should be a PC?
 

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I agree that Ridley is a very important character.. and has a stronger backstory. And yeah.. Weavel and Dark Samus have nothing on him.. but who says Sakurai and his development team feel the same way?



So I have a question for the both of you..
Do you feel Team Rocket from Pokemon should be a PC?
Team Rocket from the anime???? Hell no

Regular...No...plus it would work the same as the PKMN Trainer...and that's not very original...

Ridley wouldn't work the same as any character currently in the game...

Giovanni if anyone and that's unoriginal...at least he's not generic...
 

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Team Rocket from the anime???? Hell no

Regular...No...plus it would work the same as the PKMN Trainer...and that's not very original...

Ridley wouldn't work the same as any character currently in the game...

Geovanni if anyone and that's unoriginal...at least he's not generic...
Your saying that Giovanni is unoriginal and that Team Rocket are generic?

Giovanni is like Mother Brain.. or really Giovanni is like the leader of the Space Pirates in Metroid. He makes the orders.. and causes destruction.

Jesse and James from Team Rocket who were also in the Pokemon game.. and of course there could be a Team Rocket wearing character who works like Pokemon trainer.. though they use different pokemon with different movesets. So Team Rocket members are sort of like Ridley.. and Jesse and James fit it more.

So a Team Rocket character is as much deserving as Ridley.
Oh and Mewtwo = Meta Knight = Dark Samus = Wario..
(All are evil in a sense but all crave power and are anarchist.)
 

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Your saying that Giovanni is unoriginal and that Team Rocket are generic?

Giovanni is like Mother Brain.. or really Giovanni is like the leader of the Space Pirates in Metroid. He makes the orders.. and causes destruction.

Jesse and James from Team Rocket who were also in the Pokemon game.. and of course there could be a Team Rocket wearing character who works like Pokemon trainer.. though they use different pokemon with different movesets. So Team Rocket members are sort of like Ridley.. and Jesse and James fit it more.

So a Team Rocket character is as much deserving as Ridley.
Oh and Mewtwo = Meta Knight = Dark Samus = Wario..
(All are evil in a sense but all crave power and are anarchist.)

I'm saying that if Giovanni works like PKMN trainer that's unoriginal

Mother Brain is not the leader of the SPace Pirates...Ridley is.

You can't compare the characters like you did

As a pokemon fan I am offended by the Pokemon anime reference you did...

Game > Anime by x10 in the least...
 

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Dark Samus has a story and has something against Dark Samus(Like that She erradicated his entire species...) Personality? uhhh it's a monster.
 

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I'm saying that if Giovanni works like PKMN trainer that's unoriginal

Mother Brain is not the leader of the SPace Pirates...Ridley is.

You can't compare the characters like you did

As a pokemon fan I am offended by the Pokemon anime reference you did...

Game > Anime by x10 in the least...
Ridley led the space pirates to attack Samus's home.
He was mentioned as a leader.. but it was mentioned that he was HIRED by Space Pirate HQ in Prime.. he has been described as a enforcer and a leader of a group of space pirates.

A General can be a leader of a army.. but a king, dictator, or president can be the one who makes all the orders.

The one who has control of Ridley could be Mother Brain.. or it could be someone who hasn't been mentioned yet. Metroid Fusion and the intro in Super Metroid say that Mother Brain is the Space Pirate leader.

You may also notice he's a boss before Mother Brain in Metroid Zero Mission and a boss before the final bosses in Metroid Prime 1 & 2.


I agree that the Pokemon game has greater importance then the anime. Though keep in mine that Jesse and James were in the Pokemon game, Pokemon Yellow. Of course they might not talk.. but they may look the same like they do in the show. Also.. I did say a Team Rocket member could also be a character then Jesse and James.
 

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Ridley led the space pirates to attack Samus's home.
He was mentioned as a leader.. but it was mentioned that he was HIRED by Space Pirate HQ in Prime.. he has been described as a enforcer and a leader of a group of space pirates.

A General can be a leader of a army.. but a king, dictator, or president can be the one who makes all the orders.

The one who has control of Ridley could be Mother Brain.. or it could be someone who hasn't been mentioned yet. Metroid Fusion and the intro in Super Metroid say that Mother Brain is the Space Pirate leader.

You may also notice he a boss before Mother Brain in Metroid Zero Mission and a boss before the final bosses in Metroid Prime 1 & 2.
He wasn't in Prime 2 first off. Second, the Mother Brain was the the Space Pirate leader on Zebes, just one planet. It was originally built as an organic computer by the Chozo, and was corrupted when the Space Pirates invaded the planet. Ridley takes direct orders from the Space Pirate Council/Counsel (spelling?) who are the heads of the entire thing.
 

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Ridley led the space pirates to attack Samus's home.
He was mentioned as a leader.. but it was mentioned that he was HIRED by Space Pirate HQ in Prime.. he has been described as a enforcer and a leader of a group of space pirates.

A General can be a leader of a army.. but a king, dictator, or president can be the one who makes all the orders.

The one who has control of Ridley could be Mother Brain.. or it could be someone who hasn't been mentioned yet. Metroid Fusion and the intro in Super Metroid say that Mother Brain is the Space Pirate leader.

You may also notice he a boss before Mother Brain in Metroid Zero Mission and a boss before the final bosses in Metroid Prime 1 & 2.


I agree that the Pokemon game has greater importance then the anime. Though keep in mine that Jesse and James were in the Pokemon game. Of course they might not talk.. but they may look the same like they do in the show.
Yellow and it was based off the anime...

The true leader of the Space Pirates IS unknown...but the Mother Brain is not the leader.

Zero Mission is a remake of Metroid 1
 

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Normally I'm all for Ridley.. in fact hes really the only reason i want to buy Brawl.. i want to kick my friends *** with him.. [ he usually uses samus ]

But.. now that weve found out about these "non playable bosses" like petey piranah.. im having second thoughts.. Obviously Ridley is 100% going to be a boss for samus in the subspace emissary.. what with his "boss theme music" and what-not. So this must mean that hes not playable right?

He'll be difficult for Sakurai to make a moveset for being so lanky.. and as everyone has said.. HE IS MASSIVE.. and look!.. the subspace emissary bosses are MASSIVE!.. :O and they use only a couple of menuvours to attack their opponents.

His chances to me.. just got slimmer :(
No no no, don't assume things like this until it is 100 percent confirmation that he'll be only a boss character. bro. No way would Sakurai and his development team annihilate our hopes & dreams of playing with Ridley.........

......for if they do, they'll be HELL TO PAY!:mad::mad::mad:
 

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He wasn't in Prime 2 first off. Second, the Mother Brain was the the Space Pirate leader on Zebes, just one planet. It was originally built as an organic computer by the Chozo, and was corrupted when the Space Pirates invaded the planet. Ridley takes direct orders from the Space Pirate Council/Counsel (spelling?) who are the heads of the entire thing.
Thank you for correcting me. I'm not a Metroid expert.. but atleast that means Ridley is not the leader.

Yellow and it was based off the anime...

The true leader of the Space Pirates IS unknown...but the Mother Brain is not the leader.

Zero Mission is a remake of Metroid 1
So what I said about Giovanni before is correct.. because I did say that it could be "someone else."

Giovanni = "Unknown" Space Pirate Leader
Team Rocket Member = Ridley
Mewtwo = Dark Samus
Pokemon Trainer = Samus

So really a Team Rocket member is really not unoriginal.
 

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Yes, hell to pay. We'll take his butt buddy, Mr Amada, hostage and force Sakurai to put Ridley in. We're that dedicated of a fanbase.
YEAAAHHHH! Give em an ultimatium while we're at it! Strap em with C4 explosives and threaten em and say that if you don't put Ridley as a playable character in Brawl, then we'll send you to any maker that you wish!

But if you want to peaceful approach and yet effective approach, we......could not buy Brawl altogether! Boycott on Brawl without my boy Ridley!

NO BRAWLTATION WITHOUT RIDLEY REPRESENTATION!
 

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Thank you for correcting me. I'm not a Metroid expert.. but atleast that means Ridley is not the leader.



So what I said about Giovanni before is correct.. because I did say that it could be "someone else."

Giovanni = "Unknown" Space Pirate Leader
Team Rocket Member = Ridley
Mewtwo = Dark Samus
Pokemon Trainer = Samus

So really a Team Rocket member is really not unoriginal.
It would be unoriginal if it worked the same AS the Pokemon trainer...

and a Team Rocket member is generic...PKMN Trainer is actually the champion RED but is left unnamed because you get to choose his name in the games...(Silver showed that he was named Red though)
 

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You're both Wrong about Mother Brain, she/he/it it's not even Ridley's boss, Ridley was sent to zebes to protect the oversized brain.

Ridley has been the Supreme command of the Pirates in all the games(supreme as in leader of operations) Ridley's boss is "Pirate HQ".
 

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Normally I'm all for Ridley.. in fact hes really the only reason i want to buy Brawl.. i want to kick my friends *** with him.. [ he usually uses samus ]

But.. now that weve found out about these "non playable bosses" like petey piranah.. im having second thoughts.. Obviously Ridley is 100% going to be a boss for samus in the subspace emissary.. what with his "boss theme music" and what-not. So this must mean that hes not playable right?

He'll be difficult for Sakurai to make a moveset for being so lanky.. and as everyone has said.. HE IS MASSIVE.. and look!.. the subspace emissary bosses are MASSIVE!.. :O and they use only a couple of menuvours to attack their opponents.

His chances to me.. just got slimmer :(
HAHA!, i was right!, ridley is going to be a boss like master hand!. ridley fan***s just got owned so hard! :p
 
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