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Ridley will be a boss, NOT a playable character!

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Stado

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LOl Ridley fanboys...

Cause you know, this couldn't have been put in Ridley's thread instead. Not like this is important information, anyone with half a brain could see that a character can be a boss and PC (DK movie..).

And how is Ridley a "shoe-in"? Why does there have to be a metriod villain again? That's like saying Pokey (Mother), Daein (FE: PoR) and Medusa (Kid Icarus) are in cause they are the perfect villain for their games.

Not like I hate Ridley (more the merrier), but the "I think he's so L33t so he must be already in" attitude of his fans is really annoying.
My thoughts exactly. Ridley's chances of being playable really aren't all that great, to be perfectly honest. Like many have stated before me: popularity means nothing, especially when the character is, in of itself, illogical. All you fanboys should really stop deluding yourselves by thinking he's a shoe-in, 'cause I hate to break it to you, but he's not.
 

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Y'know what would make me laugh? A subspace battle where you fought Giant Bowser!

And for anyone who says Ridley is too big; Never seen the intro to Melee, have you?


Edit: Oh, and for the record.... Sakurai said he wanted more Metroid characters in Brawl. Ridley got put in said game creator's poll, and ranked extremely high.

So here's the point: SAKURAI INCLUDED CHARACTERS HE KNEW COULD BE PLAYABLE. He wouldn't set up a poll with characters he knew he couldn't make; That'd be ********, no?
 

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FAIL, he was slow -_-
Strong? Well, maybe the grabs.
Oh and his defense sucked.


Why would we have a boss playable, then when you fight ridley you could use ridley to beat him <_<;;

Boss's are supposed to be hard, if they reach human above average skill, they would be unstoppable.
You could use Bowser to beat Bowser in melee. So your point is?

Also, I might point out that I dont think that the SE is going to have a separate story for each character. From what i've seen in video's, you start off with Mario and Kirby fighting Petey, then go onto Pit and Mario etc. It's probably going to be just small sections with 2 characters, then move on to the next part of the story with 2 different characters. So you might be forced to fight Ridley with Samus, then the next level you play as him. But i'm not 100% sure on this, so dont take it too seriously.
 

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My thoughts exactly. Ridley's chances of being playable really aren't all that great, to be perfectly honest. Like many have stated before me: popularity means nothing, especially when the character is, in of itself, illogical. All you fanboys should really stop deluding yourselves by thinking he's a shoe-in, 'cause I hate to break it to you, but he's not.
I guess King Dedede isn't a shoe-in either? Oh wait...

Wario, Diddy Kong, King Dedede, and even Sonic were all shoe-ins... everyone should have known they were going to be in Brawl, just like Ridley.

...How the heck is Ridley illogical? That's like saying King Dedede is illogical.
 

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Well there's a lot you could do to balance him. For one, he's massive so his shield wouldn't completely cover him. With wings and all, he would be one of the floatiest characters out there. The majority of his attacks would be massively laggy, start up and down time. Sounding more balanced yet?
 

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I guess King Dedede isn't a shoe-in either? Oh wait...

Wario, Diddy Kong, King Dedede, and even Sonic were all shoe-ins... everyone should have known they were going to be in Brawl, just like Ridley.

...How the heck is Ridley illogical? That's like saying King Dedede is illogical.
Awesome, take the names of some characters that have already been confirmed then stick Ridley to the end of that list and BAM he's in too...

Not saying he isn't in but nothing says he will be in ether. No one that isn't on the DOJO is 100% in (not even Gannon, obvious as he is nothing is 100%). Having a good chance is one thing, but if a charcter isn't on the DOJO then you can't go around saying lIeK Do0dZ hE b sO InzoRus,yOU DoN't ThINk s0? yoU n0ob!!1!!111!one!!
 

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hmm, at this point in time Ridley could either be a Subspace Emmisary Boss but Still playably, which I hope happens
 

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I guess King Dedede isn't a shoe-in either? Oh wait...

Wario, Diddy Kong, King Dedede, and even Sonic were all shoe-ins... everyone should have known they were going to be in Brawl, just like Ridley.

...How the heck is Ridley illogical? That's like saying King Dedede is illogical.
Please don't put words in my mouth. King Dedede was always a shoe-in. So was Sonic. I don't recall ever claiming the contrary. However, tell me how these characters in any way relate to Ridley and his chances of being in Brawl? That's right, they don't. They had their own, separate reasons for being so, Sakurai's poll be dam.ned.

Again, King Dedede was never illogical. Never. Ridley, on the other hand, is a whole other story. You may have your otherwise deluded reasons for believing in his eventual playability, while I have mine own reasons for believing he'll be but a boss and/or assist trophy. I'd rather leave it at that and have myself a good laugh when Brawl is finally released playable Ridley free.
 

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Awesome, take the names of some characters that have already been confirmed then stick Ridley to the end of that list and BAM he's in too...

Not saying he isn't in but nothing says he will be in ether. No one that isn't on the DOJO is 100% in (not even Gannon, obvious as he is nothing is 100%). Having a good chance is one thing, but if a charcter isn't on the DOJO then you can't go around saying lIeK Do0dZ hE b sO InzoRus,yOU DoN't ThINk s0? yoU n0ob!!1!!111!one!!
Ofcourse he's not confirmed yet, but my point was that characters like King Dedede had everything going for them and very little, if anything, was going against them which earned them the title 'shoe-in.' It's the same thing for Ridley. He's a shoe-in. I have yet to see any reason why he couldn't be playable, and it seems like most the people who doubt his inclusion just have a hard time imagining how he'd look in the Smash world. :ohwell:
 

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Ofcourse he's not confirmed yet, but my point was that characters like King Dedede had everything going for them and very little, if anything, was going against them which earned them the title 'shoe-in.' It's the same thing for Ridley. He's a shoe-in. I have yet to see any reason why he couldn't be playable, and it seems like most the people who doubt his inclusion just have a hard time imagining how he'd look in the Smash world. :ohwell:
Fine, as long as you understand that Ridley isn't 100% thats good with me. Tired of Ridley fanatics shoving down the supposed "fact" that Ridley will be playable. It would be fine if they kept that kind of stuff inside the Ridley thread but when they start preaching it in other topics.

Well, fanboys.....
 

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Y'know what would make me laugh? A subspace battle where you fought Giant Bowser!

And for anyone who says Ridley is too big; Never seen the intro to Melee, have you?


Edit: Oh, and for the record.... Sakurai said he wanted more Metroid characters in Brawl. Ridley got put in said game creator's poll, and ranked extremely high.

So here's the point: SAKURAI INCLUDED CHARACTERS HE KNEW COULD BE PLAYABLE. He wouldn't set up a poll with characters he knew he couldn't make; That'd be ********, no?
this is the most important point. Sakurai believes he can make Ridley work as a PC. doesn't matter if we do or not.
 

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Yeah, since he is popular, Ridley has higher chances because Sakurai can make him work. We are speaking of the man who made Game & Watch work people! And after Pokemon Trainer, we cant really say who is illogical...
 

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Depends if they pull him off right. He's on a knife edge here.

If Ridley still has that little spark that made me go "OMGWTFBBQ" in Metroid Prime, then yes. If not, then no.
Yhea because we all know how Sakurai decides which character gets in or not by weather you thought "OMGWTFBBQ" when you first saw him.... and why Metroid prime!? is that like the only Metroid game you have played or something.

Bloody hell buy a SNES or use the VC... its there for a reason ya know!!

And egruntz I was worried when I saw the thread title... luckily I read it XD
 

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Awesome, take the names of some characters that have already been confirmed then stick Ridley to the end of that list and BAM he's in too...

Not saying he isn't in but nothing says he will be in ether. No one that isn't on the DOJO is 100% in (not even Gannon, obvious as he is nothing is 100%). Having a good chance is one thing, but if a charcter isn't on the DOJO then you can't go around saying lIeK Do0dZ hE b sO InzoRus,yOU DoN't ThINk s0? yoU n0ob!!1!!111!one!!

GANNON - BANNED!!!!!
 

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I want Ridley in, but has Sakurai ever said anything specific about him?

If so, quote and/or link please.
 

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Sorry... I meant Ganondorf.

Hey, aren't you the leader of the Ridley fanboys?

Question. What would I have to do to get on the haters list as a" Total noob"? Is my Sig enough to do the trick?
Sorry I do not speak to people who disgrace the name of the lord of evil.

But that aside you don't really deserve that spot... you are not acting like a "total n00b" at all unlike that other plonka.
 

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I'm not even on the supporters list...

;_;

Is it because I like Waluigi?
 

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Its because that post was made a while ago and I cant be bothered to change it,,, but... you like Waluigi!?!?!?!
 

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First off let me say this thread fails almost as bad as the sandman. How is this thread neccissary to the franchise anyways=???

:laugh:


GANNON - BANNED!!!!!
^ WIN 1!

this is the most important point. Sakurai believes he can make Ridley work as a PC. doesn't matter if we do or not.
^ WIN 2!



Nuff said.
^ WIN 3!

Please don't put words in my mouth. King Dedede was always a shoe-in. So was Sonic. I don't recall ever claiming the contrary. However, tell me how these characters in any way relate to Ridley and his chances of being in Brawl? That's right, they don't. They had their own, separate reasons for being so, Sakurai's poll be dam.ned.

Again, King Dedede was never illogical. Never. Ridley, on the other hand, is a whole other story. You may have your otherwise deluded reasons for believing in his eventual playability, while I have mine own reasons for believing he'll be but a boss and/or assist trophy. I'd rather leave it at that and have myself a good laugh when Brawl is finally released playable Ridley free.
LOl Ridley fanboys...

Cause you know, this couldn't have been put in Ridley's thread instead. Not like this is important information, anyone with half a brain could see that a character can be a boss and PC (DK movie..).

And how is Ridley a "shoe-in"? Why does there have to be a metriod villain again? That's like saying Pokey (Mother), Daein (FE: PoR) and Medusa (Kid Icarus) are in cause they are the perfect villain for their games.

Not like I hate Ridley (more the merrier), but the "I think he's so L33t so he must be already in" attitude of his fans is really annoying.
Are you dumb=??? He is the most likely newcomer now, with King Dedede confirmed. I"ll pull out the f***ing stats. LIKE THIS! Here is a list of all the best selling Nintendo franchises, with OVER 10 million units sold, and have at least ONE PLAYABLE REP IN BRAWL.

Mario (193 million)[151]
Pokémon (155 million)[151]
The Legend of Zelda (52 million)[26]
Donkey Kong (48 million)[155][151]
Metroid (13 million)[151]

What? Metroid is Nintendo's 5th best selling franchise? Kirby, EarthBound/MOTHER Fire Emblem, and Star Fox at most barely have sold HALF AS MANY UNITS! Ya, that's right. So SUCK IT! Metroid will have Ridley as a PC, seeing as how he is their 2nd MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER, AND VILLAIN! Kirby series is like trash now anyways, and it's sales wish they were Metroid's. And for the too big arguement, suck on THIS!



Ridley smaller then Samus in SSB Melee's opening? Wat? The level I just owned you at is, it's....OVER 9,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:



OMFG! Giga Bowser is like 50 fete tall! hackorz!



Bowser is like 40 FEET TALL IN THIS PIC! ZOMG, RIDLEY IS 20 FEET TALL! DECONFIRMED! DECONFIRMED! DECONFIRMED! STFU! You fail, and admit it. Says say you lose, fanbase size says you lose, hell, even Japan says you lose, and soon Sakurai will say you lose. So you fail. Fail like the Titans in the 2000 Super Bowl...

 

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First off let me say this thread fails almost as bad as the sandman. How is this thread neccissary to the franchise anyways=???

:laugh:



^ WIN 1!



^ WIN 2!



^ WIN 3!





Are you dumb=??? He is the most likely newcomer now, with King Dedede confirmed. I"ll pull out the f***ing stats. LIKE THIS! Here is a list of all the best selling Nintendo franchises, with OVER 10 million units sold, and have at least ONE PLAYABLE REP IN BRAWL.

Mario (193 million)[151]
Pokémon (155 million)[151]
The Legend of Zelda (52 million)[26]
Donkey Kong (48 million)[155][151]
Metroid (13 million)[151]

What? Metroid is Nintendo's 5th best selling franchise? Kirby, EarthBound/MOTHER Fire Emblem, and Star Fox at most barely have sold HALF AS MANY UNITS! Ya, that's right. So SUCK IT! Metroid will have Ridley as a PC, seeing as how he is their 2nd MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER, AND VILLAIN! Kirby series is like trash now anyways, and it's sales wish they were Metroid's. And for the too big arguement, suck on THIS!



Ridley smaller then Samus in SSB Melee's opening? Wat? The level I just owned you at is, it's....OVER 9,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:



OMFG! Giga Bowser is like 50 fete tall! hackorz!



Bowser is like 40 FEET TALL IN THIS PIC! ZOMG, RIDLEY IS 20 FEET TALL! DECONFIRMED! DECONFIRMED! DECONFIRMED! STFU! You fail, and admit it. Says say you lose, fanbase size says you lose, hell, even Japan says you lose, and soon Sakurai will say you lose. So you fail. Fail like the Titans in the 2000 Super Bowl...






All you ridley haters have been OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Just because a character is destined to become a Subspace Emissary boss, doesn't mean that they don't still have a chance of becoming playable characters.

Ridley WILL be a boss.
But he'll also be a playable character.
Exactly.

Epic, EPIC win.
 

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On JohnKnight1's post - Is that what Ridley-haters hate the most? Not necessarily Ridley in Brawl... Just the fanboys?

*curious*
 

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Are you dumb=??? He is the most likely newcomer now, with King Dedede confirmed. I"ll pull out the f***ing stats. LIKE THIS! Here is a list of all the best selling Nintendo franchises, with OVER 10 million units sold, and have at least ONE PLAYABLE REP IN BRAWL.

Mario (193 million)[151]
Pokémon (155 million)[151]
The Legend of Zelda (52 million)[26]
Donkey Kong (48 million)[155][151]
Metroid (13 million)[151]

What? Metroid is Nintendo's 5th best selling franchise? Kirby, EarthBound/MOTHER Fire Emblem, and Star Fox at most barely have sold HALF AS MANY UNITS! Ya, that's right. So SUCK IT! Metroid will have Ridley as a PC, seeing as how he is their 2nd MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER, AND VILLAIN! Kirby series is like trash now anyways, and it's sales wish they were Metroid's.


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yeah... you're definitely the type of person I base my stereotypes off of.

Opinion based speculation=/= FACT.

I could leave only say that and leave but you know, I'll spend the time taking apart your post.

Now listen kids, before I go on remember this: I DO NOT HATE RIDLEY, HE IS COOL IN MY BOOK BUT I HATE THE ARROGANT FANATICS THAT RUIN HIS FANBASE (aka people like this guy).


1. Popularity does not determine whether you are in or out of brawl ( cause you know, Pit and Ice climbers were all the rave back when they were mentioned for smash)
2. Based on your list of sales ,which means nothing, Gary and King K Rool will defiantly be in Brawl too huh.
3. As much as some people love to say this. One character being confirmed means nothing for the chances of another character that is not of the same series!
4. I've said this before but... you can never say a character is in unless s/he is on the DOJO and not every series has to have a villain!


My advice to you buddy. We all love our own special characters. Each person is entitled to be a fan of whoever/whatever they want. Just learn to chill out when talking about a character that you like and don't let your love for the character cloud your judgment, you'll just end up looking stupid.
Also, don't trash talk another series just to make the one you like look better. I like Kirby and Metroid ;)

On JohnKnight1's post - Is that what Ridley-haters hate the most? Not necessarily Ridley in Brawl... Just the fanboys?

*curious*

Yep.
 

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This thread has turned into quite a childish fight.

It's much like the Capulets and the Montagues.

It's not so much the fanboys disagree with the non-believers and vice-versa

It's that one side just feels the need to 'grind the others gears' because they apparently like pointless argument(?)

I don't really understand it personally

Just thought I'd share my opinion, carry on with what you wish.

-Link-
 

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Maybe this argument is pointless ( wouldn't have used the Shakespeare reference but meh...)

One thing I have learned form all of this is that I need a better faceplam....
 

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On JohnKnight1's post - Is that what Ridley-haters hate the most? Not necessarily Ridley in Brawl... Just the fanboys?

*curious*
To stop the anti-Ridley people.

HOW MANY OF YOU MOTHER FATHERS READ THE FIRST POST
I did...I was just refering to the REAL ANTI-RIDLEY POSTS! Look back, and people will say "zomg, he's too big" sooo many times, and these scrubs fail. This thread was made of fail, because the title attracts scrubs like the ones who say "zomg, he's too big to be playable". I just felt like giving them another stab at the balls, ya know! :laugh: And Mario and Kirby are subspace bosses, too. ;)

DON'T YOU PEOPLE CHECK WHO I'M QUOTING=???

@ Xengri
1.Sakurai is the b**ch of the fans. If the most popular characters wouldn't get in, then we'd be playing all Pokémon. Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Samus, Fox, Kirby, Yoshi, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Marth, Zelda, Solid Snake, Ganondorf, Falco, Meta Knight, Wario, SONIC, Ike, Diddy Kong, King Dedede...most of the characters are VERY POPULAR! Whil random characters do get in, at least 90%-90% of all characters in smash are AT LEAST semi-reconizable to gamers (especially Nintendo gamers) before being in Smash.

This is Super Smash Bros. Brawl, not Super Smash Bros. total randomness, or Super Smash Bros. minority.

2.Gary has one appearance, and King K. Rool has 4. The DK series has been dead since 1998. Metroid is still thriving. Ridley has appeared in all but 2 Metroid games, and has played a central roll in Metroid, Metroid Zero Mission, Super Metroid, the Metroid Primes (minus Hunters), etc. Fact is K. Rool's franchise is dead, Ridley's is at it's peak.

3.No, I never said that.

4.I've predicted every newcomer and veteran thus far except the PT. And we don't know, but chances are for Ridley. He has eitehr 3 or 4 votes on Sakurai's Brawl poll (either tied for the highest or 2nd highest votes of a unconfirmed potential newcomer), between all his SWf threads his thread is the most posted on-even more then the SONIC THREAD! (and he's confirmed) He has his boss theme music on his stage, and the place where you fight him in Metrod, Metroid Zero Mission, and Super Metroid is his home terain, and is where you fought him in all those games I said.

And not every series needs a villian, but most of the bigger series (like EarthBound, Kirby, Star Fox, and Fire Emblem on up) deserve at least two-and Metroid is no exception. Hell, Ridley is even wanted in Japan-and they hate Metroid. By your logic, just because a character in the public eyes doesn't mean squat---it did with Ike, Sonic, Diddy Kong, Meta Knight, Wario, and King Dedede. ;)

There will be random characters, but most of the smash characters are POPULAR! It is a proveable fact.
 

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^ Tuche! :laugh: Someone finally proved me wrong! XD

Congratulations! You win....




...THE SMASH WORLD!
Now don't tell anyone I accepted defeat...maybe I should play Kirby games past Air Ride...

:laugh:

;)
 

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1.Sakurai is the b**ch of the fans. If the most popular characters wouldn't get in, then we'd be playing all Pokémon. Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Samus, Fox, Kirby, Yoshi, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Marth, Zelda, Solid Snake, Ganondorf, Falco, Meta Knight, Wario, SONIC, Ike, Diddy Kong, King Dedede...most of the characters are VERY POPULAR! Whil random characters do get in, at least 90%-90% of all characters in smash are AT LEAST semi-reconizable to gamers (especially Nintendo gamers) before being in Smash.

This is Super Smash Bros. Brawl, not Super Smash Bros. total randomness, or Super Smash Bros. minority.

2.Gary has one appearance, and King K. Rool has 4. The DK series has been dead since 1998. Metroid is still thriving. Ridley has appeared in all but 2 Metroid games, and has played a central roll in Metroid, Metroid Zero Mission, Super Metroid, the Metroid Primes (minus Hunters), etc. Fact is K. Rool's franchise is dead, Ridley's is at it's peak.

3.No, I never said that.

4.I've predicted every newcomer and veteran thus far except the PT. And we don't know, but chances are for Ridley. He has eitehr 3 or 4 votes on Sakurai's Brawl poll (either tied for the highest or 2nd highest votes of a unconfirmed potential newcomer), between all his SWf threads his thread is the most posted on-even more then the SONIC THREAD! (and he's confirmed) He has his boss theme music on his stage, and the place where you fight him in Metrod, Metroid Zero Mission, and Super Metroid is his home terain, and is where you fought him in all those games I said.

And not every series needs a villian, but most of the bigger series (like EarthBound, Kirby, Star Fox, and Fire Emblem on up) deserve at least two-and Metroid is no exception. Hell, Ridley is even wanted in Japan-and they hate Metroid. By your logic, just because a character in the public eyes doesn't mean squat---it did with Ike, Sonic, Diddy Kong, Meta Knight, Wario, and King Dedede. ;)

There will be random characters, but most of the smash characters are POPULAR! It is a proveable fact.
1. Popularity =/= 100% in Brawl but, I'm sure you have other convincing evidence right?

2. I'm just going to ignore how wrong you are about Gary since I could care less. In short that paragraph was still only talking about Ridley's popularity.... Popularity =/= 100% in Brawl

3.
He is the most likely newcomer now, with King Dedede confirmed.
O RLY?

4. I doubt you predicated all of the current cast of Brawl, and even if you did that means nothing since there is a chance for you to be wrong until all of the characters are revealed. Oh and Popularity =/= 100% in Brawl.

Guess all that there is going for Ridley is popularity ( since not every series needs a villain). But thats just fine, being popular gives him a great chance. Whats wrong is when people think that " he is so popular and his thread is the biggestness so he is in and you're stupid if you think otherwise!" ( was to lazy to do the whole capaliztion thing this time).

Anyway I've spent to much time posting against Ridley's chances. It would be cool if he's in Brawl but, he might not be since nothing is 100% unless it's on the DOJO, Some people need to get pass all the fanboyism and learn to understand that.
 

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^ Tuche! :laugh: Someone finally proved me wrong! XD

Congratulations! You win....




...THE SMASH WORLD!
Now don't tell anyone I accepted defeat...maybe I should play Kirby games past Air Ride...

:laugh:

;)
Get it the hard way Punk?!?;)

I really REALLY like that pic! who made it? =D

there is going to be a remake for Kirby Super Star on the DS, finnaly we will play it with perfect translation!

though i am more looking forward to that canceled GC one that was rumored to be moved to the Wii..

YEA RIDLEY ROCK!
 

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sorry but i couldn't edit my post but:




please tell me how Sonic got in then.
Because he had good chances.

I said popularity=/= 100% in Brawl but I never said that it meant nothing.

I'm for Ridley but it bothers me to see some people that think that he or any character that isn't on the DOJO is defiantly in.
 

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I think it's mostly the enthusiam, Xengri. People get so hyped up about a character they say things about them as if they're already confirmed. A lot of people are guilty of it... Although perhaps the Ridley fans are infamous for doing so. :D

But I just don't see how people can argue that he doesn't have a high chance. Ridley has made cameos in both the previous Smash games, and with the high demand for the character it's pretty much garunteed Ridley will be in Brawl in some form or another. (hopefully playable)
 
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