Ridley will be a boss, NOT a playable character!

[silver777]

Because he had good chances.

Good chances?? what good chances?? other than being popular he is nothing.

I said popularity=/= 100% in Brawl but I never said that it meant nothing.

yes it is. it is a key factor for characters inclusion in the game, though the retro and the un-popular ones have chances too these what i prefer anyway (see sig).

I'm for Ridley but it bothers me to see some people that think that he or any character that isn't on the DOJO is defiantly in.

you are for Ridley as an AT? well let them think whatever they want I thought DeDeDe was defiantly in, and OH! here he is!

let the people choose and support what the hell they want! it doesn't hurt you personally if people support a character you don't like! whats wrong with you people?!?

 

[Michael Blaine]

comedy. Excellent work Xengri and Stado. If Ridley is playable, fine, it's not the worst thing in the world, but if he tuns out to be just a boss and his cocky groupies flood the board with their tears, that would be great too. win-win.

 

[Johnknight1]

1. Popularity =/= 100% in Brawl but, I'm sure you have other convincing evidence right?

2. I'm just going to ignore how wrong you are about Gary since I could care less. In short that paragraph was still only talking about Ridley's popularity.... Popularity =/= 100% in Brawl

3.

O RLY?

4. I doubt you predicated all of the current cast of Brawl, and even if you did that means nothing since there is a chance for you to be wrong until all of the characters are revealed. Oh and Popularity =/= 100% in Brawl.

Guess all that there is going for Ridley is popularity ( since not every series needs a villain). But thats just fine, being popular gives him a great chance. Whats wrong is when people think that " he is so popular and his thread is the biggestness so he is in and you're stupid if you think otherwise!" ( was to lazy to do the whole capaliztion thing this time).

Anyway I've spent to much time posting against Ridley's chances. It would be cool if he's in Brawl but, he might not be since nothing is 100% unless it's on the DOJO, Some people need to get pass all the fanboyism and learn to understand that.

1.That's wat I just said. 80% of the roster got there by importance to Nintendo, and Popularity/GIANT fanbases and reconizability.

2.Gary apperaed in one game and a remake. Ridley has played more of a roll the Gary ever will. Gary wasn't even the main point of the story-the point of the 1st Pokémon gen was to get the 8 gym badges, and become the world champion. In Metroid/Metroid Zero Mission, Ridley assembled a army of space pirates, and killed every last Chozo. In Super Metroid, he stole the last baby Metroid, and took over Zebes again. In Metroid Prime he lead the Phazon Mining, and Samus followed him to Tallon IV. In MP2, he lead the new Phazon incident, and to the rise of Dark Samus. In MP3, he lead his forces, along with Dark Samus' to destroy the Space Confederacy's army. That's much more important. As for King K. Rool, which one is more important to their series is debateable, but Donkey Kong (Country) has been dead since DK64.

3.According to Sakurai's poll, Sakurai having his music and the stage where you fight him, and his fanbase being the biggest on the SWF left to not have a confirmed character, and he's pretty much got good chances. That's all in my opinion, but i've been right about every character thus far-minus Wolf being deconfirmed, and the PT (no one saw the PT coming).

4.Nothing is 100%. And look at my latest prediction on Wiseguy's prediction thread, and all my predictions, and I predicted every newcomer minus the PT (and Wolf's deconfirmation), and every veteran thus far (even the Ice Climbers). Plus I even have a vid of it.

Now show me proof that I'm lying.

Get it the hard way Punk?!?

I really REALLY like that pic! who made it? =D

there is going to be a Starremake for Kirby Super on the DS, finnaly we will play it with perfect translation!

Spoiler

though i am more looking forward to that canceled GC one that was rumored to be moved to the Wii..

YEA RIDLEY ROCK!

Fine...*cries*




















IDK who made it, but I use it for everything. Everyone loves that picture, because it is incredible. If you ask me, Brawl's cover should have all the characters on it, and the world in the center, like that one fake awsome fan art made a loooonnnngggg time ago for Brawl.

And that sounds neat for the DS game....

Spoiler

and same with a Kirby Wii game. I wonder how that will turn out=??? *prays Sakurai makes it; after SSBB and SSB DS!*

 

[Xengri]

I'm done speaking about Ridley, he has a thread anyway...
Anyone that has read my post will undoubtedly realize that no character no matter what is 100% unless they are on the DOJO. Everyone should already know this, but some seem to have forgotten that.

But I had to respond the Sig comment.

That AT sig is purely out of spite, I don't seriously mean it. Come on.. Barrel and crate user? Sakurai for brawl?

If Ridley was announced as a PC I would be happy but for now I can do without all the people posting that he IS IN already.

Oh, and Johnknight I never read your predictions thread. Predictions bore me since they mean nothing.
You said nothing is 100% and thats all i was proving so regardless of what is predicted it isn't 100%.

 

[Johnknight1]

I never said he was already in, I said his chances are up there, only a somewat below wat Dedede's and Diddy's chances were before they were confirmed. But even YOU have to admit his chances are great. Chance is he will playable. That is something most of us should agree on.

 

[Stado]

It's funny how people are trying to call me out on my reasons for believing that Ridley will be non-playble despite the fact that I stated none and never will. Look, I'm not a noob, okay? I've been lurking here for quite some time. I've heard all the arguments when it comes to Ridley. You're not going to persuade me with the same old delusions. Most of you are simply rabid fanatics that call blasphemy whenever someone goes against your dearest plasma-spewing dragon. I'm kind'a tired of it all, really.

Oh, and I'm in the same boat as Xengri, by the way. I like Ridley. I do. I think he's a pretty cool character and even I admit that it's not exactly impossible for him to be playable. Still, given my reasoned logic, I personally do not believe he will be a playable character in Brawl. Simple as that. If I'm wrong, then I'll say so and likely apologize to those who advocated him. Not profusely, mind you, but you'll have certainly proven me wrong.

 

[axemangx]

Here we go again.

 

[Johnknight1]

Stado didn't say anything stupid=smart arguement (though he stated no points). I respect your opinon, but I agree to disagree.

 

[Wobbles]

I hope Ridley's in. If he does, I'll have two of my four character wishes for Brawl confirmed. I already got Meta-Knight and the IC's... Ridley would be a fine addition.

C'mon, look at how he's shaped. Mewtwo with missiles, anybody? Missiles and LASERS?

Unfortunately, I'm forced--by logic and reasoning--to accept that his presence in the game will more likely be a boss or assist trophy. I do have hope for more villains being playable. Having a majority of the characters being heroes is a given, but if we only had Bowser, DeDeDe and Ganon for our villains... that would kind of suck.

Brawl needs more evil.

 

[Johnknight1]

^ Cheer up Wobbles (like me)=look at his old and new SWF thread. They have more posts combined then any other character thread, confirmed or not confirmed. Metroid without two actaully characters in the game (ZSS is just a half-naked, sexier Samus) isn't really Metroid representation. Metroid's sales pwns all but 4 series repped in Brawl through playable characters! That's enough reasoning to maybe convince you to join me in the dark side. We have AT-ATs!

 

[Shadowbolt]

Ridley isn't JUST popular, or JUST a villain - he's the second most deserving potential Metroid rep, second only to Samus herself.

I promise you, if Metroid gets another playable rep, it WILL be Ridley,

 

[Chepe]

Ridley isn't JUST popular, or JUST a villain - he's the second most deserving potential Metroid rep, second only to Samus herself.

I promise you, if Metroid gets another playable rep, it WILL be Ridley,

So true. I mean, Dark Samus and such arent even on that sampling poll...

It will be either Ridley or no one else. But Sakurai already mentioned how he's been wanting to add characters from the popular Metroid series. Zero Suit Samus was the first result, and with Ridley's popularity I dont doubt a second go...

 

[Shadowbolt]

Not even popularity alone - Ridley is the second most important character to the Metroid story.

 

[axemangx]

It is very obvious that villains will be taking a major role in the Subspace Emissary. Most likely, each franchise represented will have a boss included somewhere in the story plot. Let's talk about the Metroid franchise; there's only one boss that would fit this position, and that's Ridley!

As most of you know, Petey Piranha was confirmed as a boss character, who will most certainly not be a playable character. Here at SWF, there are some "Petey PC" supporters that insist Petey will still be a playable character. Live with it people, any boss included into the SE won't be playable!

Talking more Ridley specific: he has his own fight music! I mean, what more do you people want?! Stop existing with false hope, and accept that Ridley will NOT be a playable character!





































Bull crap.

This thread is dedicated to all of the people out there who agree with the above statements.

First of all, just let me say one thing: I DO agree that Petey will stay as a boss. I mean, that's just a given...! Now, moving on:

Have you people realized all of the villains that are playable characters thus far? We have Bowser, Wario, (possibly) Metaknight, and even King Dedede! Now, if there's any character that'll become the Kirby boss representative, it's Dedede! And look, he's freakin' playable! We've also seen Wario and Bowser included in the Subspace Emissary (from E for All videos) as villains. What more do you people want?!

Just because a character is destined to become a Subspace Emissary boss, doesn't mean that they don't still have a chance of becoming playable character as well.

Ridley WILL be a boss.
But he'll also be a playable character.

Discuss.

P.S.
This thread is meant for bosses in general, not just Ridley specific.

Also, this is not a debate on whether or not Ridley will become playable; Ridley was just my example. All I'm trying to say, is that characters can be both a boss, and a playable character. M'kay?

"Ridley won't be a playable character, instead he'll be the Metroid boss representative for the Subspace Emisary."

Bowser and Dedede pretty much screw this over.


Also, Bosses are usually recurring bosses, not MAIN enemies. Also, the music arguement has be heard before, and clearly shown. Its just his song! What other song is he supposed to have? Thats like, his main song for whenever he battles Samus. That has nothing to do with him being a boss at all.

"Just because a character is destined to become a Subspace Emissary boss, doesn't mean that they don't still have a chance of becoming playable character as well."

No duh. Their all of the MAIN ENEMIES are destined to be bosses. Just playable bosses, I assume, after you beat them >_>.

 

[DraginHikari]

He wasn't almost Samus's size in the original?!?!

Bowser was resized in many games...

He was only that small in that one game only due to the graphical limitations of the NES. In every other games he's been a very large monster.

 

[prettymanfairy]

He was only that small in that one game only due to the graphical limitations of the NES. In every other games he's been a very large monster.

The size argument is a trite one. Bowser has been huge in many games. His ize varies, just like Ridley. Size is never an issue.

 

[axemangx]

He was only that small in that one game only due to the graphical limitations of the NES. In every other games he's been a very large monster.

We're not talking about the handheld/SNES/NES type of games.

We're talking about..

N64. Alot of the Mario Party games and so forth.

 

[bizybozo]

best post ever. ever.

edit: referencing johnknight's first post.

 

[Johnknight1]

Bowser and Dedede pretty much screw this over.


Also, Bosses are usually recurring bosses, not MAIN enemies. Also, the music arguement has be heard before, and clearly shown. Its just his song! What other song is he supposed to have? Thats like, his main song for whenever he battles Samus. That has nothing to do with him being a boss at all.

"Just because a character is destined to become a Subspace Emissary boss, doesn't mean that they don't still have a chance of becoming playable character as well."

No duh. Their all of the MAIN ENEMIES are destined to be bosses. Just playable bosses, I assume, after you beat them >_>.

You didn't read the part where he said....
"Ridley will be a boss.
But he will also be a playable character!"

best post ever. ever.

edit: referencing johnknight's first post.

Glad you like it. But you should see me in the Ridley thread...it's pretty funny. Me quoting other people's random awsome comments!

 

[Blackadder]

You didn't read the part where he said....
"Ridley will be a boss.
But he will also be a playable character!"

It's sad, isn't it?
About 68256 people in this thread didn't.
It's a deliberate move by Egruntz to see how attentive or intelligent the average SWF member is.
And...if I were him, I'd be a little sad. But not surprised.

 

[bizybozo]

john - if you really want to see some thread debate rapage - here's my shining moment. read on for a couple pages. i have an 8 page post.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=76744&page=82

 

[Deleted member]

Boss definately. HE JAS A BOSS THEME PEOPLE.

Playable; I'm on the fence. If they make him right, he could be a great character who I will kick *** with. If it all goes wrong and he ends up a cluncky, bottom-tier meatbag then my memories will be ruined.

 

[~N9NE~]

It's obvious that Ridley will only be in the background of the Title screen eating waffles.

 

[Legolastom]

So what do the haters have to say? and also at whats his face.

ITS A FIGURE OF SPEECH OF COURSE WE DON'T MEAN HE IS 100% CONFIRMED WE ARE MERELY STATING THAT HIS CHANCES ARE SO HIGH HE IS PRACTICALLY ALREADY CONFIRMED.

Jesus I don't see why you hate the fans anyway there are barely any going outside of the Ridley thread now a days, and at least we are not the Sonic supporters...

 

[Khopstix]

It would be a good idea to put bosses from each game in the Emisary. We only got one problem some Characters don't have boss at all. In the case of Pokemon Trainer who would be the boss? Mewtwo Maybe? This idea would force character comebacks like Gannondorf oh yea. In the case of Fox, Andross is his main enemy but with him being an assist trophy knocks that idea out too. So Ridley who i really hope is atleast in the game might not be a playable character. Sad to say

 

[Pieman0920]

You know, if Ridley is a playable character, then he will probably be a boss as well. That much I agree. They'll just use him in the same capacity as Bowser. =/

But really, size is just a dumb argument at this point, as not only has Bowser been bigger than Ridley, but Kirby's supposed to be 8 inches tall. Sizes are resized.

 

[Super_alex2]

Fa1ld!!1!11!!!11!1!

 

[Legolastom]

It would be a good idea to put bosses from each game in the Emisary. We only got one problem some Characters don't have boss at all. In the case of Pokemon Trainer who would be the boss? Mewtwo Maybe? This idea would force character comebacks like Gannondorf oh yea. In the case of Fox, Andross is his main enemy but with him being an assist trophy knocks that idea out too. So Ridley who i really hope is atleast in the game might not be a playable character. Sad to say

That makes no sense at all... I mean for starters Donkey Kong is facing Bowser.... not Mario.

And also we are not saying ALL bosses have to be playable just... the playable ones, I mean we don't want Petey do we!?

And exactly our thoughts pie man.

 

[Khopstix]

That makes no sense at all... I mean for starters Donkey Kong is facing Bowser.... not Mario.

And also we are not saying ALL bosses have to be playable just... the playable ones, I mean we don't want Petey do we!?

And exactly our thoughts pie man.

Yes your right Donkey Kong is facing bowser and not Mario. The question is why Bowser and not K-rool but as we all know K-rool has yet to be confirmed. Like I said I'm a Ridley fan so i really do hope he is in the game. So plz don't bite my head off for having an idea sir.

 

[Legolastom]

I wasn't biting your head off sir but in all honesty your previous post barely made any sense.

 

[Khopstix]

I was just saying that it is early to tell anything untill we get more info, like returning boss characters. Like Gannon and Mewtwo because if there not in and they were in the previous game. The odd of Ridley would be a little lower if they didn't come back. As those being the main bosses from 2 games series.



Also off topic who would be the boss for Captain Falcon if he makes his return? That is if it happens.

 

[Legolastom]

I was just saying that it is early to tell anything untill we get more info, like returning boss characters. Like Gannon and Mewtwo because if there not in and they were in the previous game. The odd of Ridley would be a little lower if they didn't come back. As those being the main bosses from 2 games series.

GANNON BANNED!!
(Again)

Also Ganon and C.Falcon will return there is no doubt about it. And any character can have any boss from any game or any series.

 

[tafutureboy]

see i want Ridley for just boss........but i'm not a hardcore ridley fan so I'm not gonna say its impossible for him to be a character......i just want to fight an oversized ridley as someone.....

 

[Legolastom]

So you don't want a great character to be playable and such because... you just want to fight an oversized Ridley.

Hint: Why don't you play the Metroid games for that.

 

[Jackal478]

Ridley will be a boss only. But this isn't the Ridley thread.

Some characters will be enemies and probably bosses in subspace....That's just a given.

 

[Khopstix]

Ridley would be and awesome character like him or not. It would be surprising and mindblowing if he got updated in soon. If dedede is in then I think that is a sign of all the other bosses that will be in including Ridley. Good luck to whoever has to make him a moveset i think that is going to be the real challege.

 

[Gojira]

Live with it people, any boss included into the SE won't be playable![/i][/s]

Really? I like how Bowser apearing as a boss ruins this reasoning.

 

[Legolastom]

Thanks for the intelligent discussion jackal!

People don't like Ridley fans bu bloody hell do they even look at the other side?

 

[Jackal478]

Thanks for the intelligent discussion jackal!

People don't like Ridley fans bu bloody hell do they even look at the other side?

Oh shut it. I came to express myself not get flamed by some nut-job ridley freak.

 

[Legolastom]

Don't tell me to shut it, your the idiot who just comes here with a one liner "Ridley will be a boss only" and expects not to be flamed. Seriously at least try to back it up and then you might get at least a bit of respect but no, you just come here stating it as fact.

Seriously stop trying to insult me of GTFO.