Ridley for SSBB

[Gypsy Lee]

 

[lanky_gunner]

there's nothing i would love more than seeing Barney die a horrible, slow, painful death. and since it was at the hands of Ridley, bonus points to whoever thought of it.

Ridley for Brawl

EDIT: Ah samusrules, you thought of it. bonus points for you.

 

[the grim lizard]

Ridley is so awesome...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGvqqqkPQO4&mode=related&search=

Ridley for Brawl!

(Also, as you can see in that clip, he clearly did not die...he just fell a great distance, but as we all know about our dragon friend: he is very resilient)

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I have no idea why you posted that, but nonetheless, I watched twice. Why you ask? Because Ridley is just that awesome.

RIIIIIIIIDLEY FOOOR BRRRRAAAWWWL!!!!!!

When he falls, he lands in the Phazon filled crater. In Metroid Prime 3, he supposedly returns with Phazon powers.

Two words: Awesome

Ridley for Brawl!

 

[Stryks]

Where exactly u got that info?? I mean I thought of that too but havent seen anything official...

 

[lanky_gunner]

the movie upset me because he knocked down Ridley's health...by hitting his foot...literally Ridley's achilles heel IS his achilles heel!

it made Ridley look weak! stupid pro metroid prime player! you dare challenge the wrath of Ridley the Great! You shall meet the same fate as your purple dinosaur friend, bas****!!! Muhahahahahahah!!!

 

[kaid]

Ah, yes, the Boost ball glitch in the Ridley fight. You should see some of the speed runs, if you have a hour and 5 minutes free...

 

[Shuma]

"Where exactly u got that info?? I mean I thought of that too but havent seen anything official..."

Hmmm... Metroid Prime 3?

 

[dynamic_entry]

Hey, i'm supposed to get us back on track! i always come in at a meaningful time and yell my support for Ridley! you stole my scene!

oh yeah and...

Ridley for Brawl!

its true.... ive seen it before. its uncannily like clockwork.

anyways, i deem Ridley to be an integral part of the metroid saga. the humble creator himself (sakurai, not god, although sometimes the distinction can be difficult to spot) voiced his want to increase in the focus on airiel combat, villains and the aforementioned lack of metroid-love (as the lower class refer to it). it seems only natural that ridley should be a prime candidate for sakurai's newest endevour. in my eyes, Ridley is far more deserving than some other ancillary characters from the francise. furthermore, let me clarify that the vacuum resistant pterodactyl is somewhat of a, "fan favourite". now, im fully aware that this manner of vocalising my support has little resonance with some of the people who frequent this establishment, as such, i will rephrase my argument in a more easily interpretable fashion.....
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RIDLEY FOR BRAWL!!!!!

................you all saw it coming.

 

[Wiseguy]

Has this thread reverted back to its previous form so soon?

Oh well...

RIDLEY OWNS!!! HE'S THE ANTI-POKEMON!!

 

[Fawriel]

Yes!


*is pelted with rocks*

 

[Aryman]

I bought Metroid Prime and Echoes on amazon just so I could fight Ridley again. I've beaten Prime before but I need to know if Ridley makes an appearance in Echoes?

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I bought Metroid Prime and Echoes on amazon just so I could fight Ridley again. I've beaten Prime before but I need to know if Ridley makes an appearance in Echoes?

No, he doesn't. It's just Dark Samus.

 

[Phaazoid]

but in prime 3 you fight meta-phazon-ridley. yes, you stand no chance, so only buy the game to have the honor of being beaten by his awesomeness.

@Gypsy Lee
thats exactly how i pictured it. and then ridley says : thats why i killed you. love is for wimps.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

@Gypsy Lee
thats exactly how i pictured it. and then ridley says : thats why i killed you. love is for wimps.

Didn't you say Barney kills himself though? Ridley just bites his hand off.

UNLESS........ Ridley used his telekenesis ability to push Barney off with his mind!
That's definately how it must of happened.

 

[lanky_gunner]

i got nothing to say, except the most important phrase in this thread...

Ridley for Brawl

 

[Phaazoid]

no, ridley used his telekensis mind influence. like in star wars, the force mind trick. darth vader actually made luke jump into oblivion.
ahh, ridley. evil at it's prime.
(**** it, i contradicted myself)

 

[Aryman]

Ah that sucks that he's not in Echoes. Oh well. I'll still play it to see what all the fuss is about this 'Dark Samus' character.

 

[lanky_gunner]

Dark Samus is pure evil. all it cares about is itself and its lust for phazon. 2nd metroid pick for brawl, right after ridley

 

[TDub301]

I think putting in Dark Samus would be a waste of a character, even if DS isn't a clone of Samus, it's still too similar to Samus. It would provide more variety if Ridley was in than another character that was similar to Samus. I think they should just make DS one of Samus' outfits and alter some of the moves a little bit when DS is picked instead. Yes, that's definitely the best way to go with it as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Caael]

Luigify Dark Samus. She doesn't have screw attack, she doesn't have morph bombs.

 

[Stryks]

I think putting in Dark Samus would be a waste of a character, even if DS isn't a clone of Samus, it's still too similar to Samus. It would provide more variety if Ridley was in than another character that was similar to Samus. I think they should just make DS one of Samus' outfits and alter some of the moves a little bit when DS is picked instead. Yes, that's definitely the best way to go with it as far as I'm concerned.

Oh ok lets take the ******** route:

Dark samus an alt. costume for samus
luigi an alt. costume for mario
jiggly an alt. costume for kirby
zelda an alt. costume for peach
ridley an alt. costume for bowser
megaman an alt. costume for samus

Yeah I know theyre diferent people, but its just gonna be a waste of a character [/sarcasm]

Really YES they look similair, but my GOD are they diferent, dark samus uses attacks regular samus DOESNT, just like regular samus uses attacks dark samus DOESNT, YES ridley deserves the shot more, but dark samus is EASILY the runner up...

 

[the grim lizard]

Really YES they look similair, but my GOD are they diferent, dark samus uses attacks regular samus DOESNT, just like regular samus uses attacks dark samus DOESNT, YES ridley deserves the shot more, but dark samus is EASILY the runner up...

First, I've played Echoes twice; so I know the story. I like Dark Samus; I think he/whatever is a cool character. But, DS really has been in only one game so far. I realize they're different people with different abilities, but they are alike in so many ways. The look alike for one. Their names are very similar for two. The the type of character (i.e., how they would play) is about the same.

DS isn't that different from Samus when you compare them to say...Ridley. (I know you said you wanted him in first.) But you can see the problem. People who want Waluigi or Paper Mario or Wolf or any number of other characters...they say they'd be different, and that's true. Nintendo would make them different and unique, etc. etc. However, they aren't a completely different type of character, and I think that is what the discussion is. I'm not saying I'd be opposed to DS, just clarifying for other people.

...I think I went far into too much detail about that considering this is a Ridley thread...

Dark samus an alt. costume for samus
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megaman an alt. costume for samus

Dang...Samus gets some pretty sweet costumes...

 

[Stryks]

Ok look by the time Brawl is released I would already clear Metroid prime 3, releasing in august, thus Dark samus would be in two games so meh...

True I get what ur saying, but Dark samus is samus main villain in the prime series, u know the one that brought abck metroid to our consoles? I knw they have like a ton of similarities, but seeig hwo sakurai has had over 2 years now to make a game, Im sure he would have time to make every character unique, yes she can turn out a clone, but NEVER an alt. costume...

 

[LukeFonFabre]

The problem with that list is that all the characters you've listed aren't actually that similar in looks and their body shapes are too different to make them an alternate costume. Dark Samus on the other hand practically is Samus in looks and body shape (let's face it, it's just Metroid Prime inhabiting Samus' phazon suit), so unlike all the other examples you've listed, Dark Samus as an alternate costume is actually feasible.

I'm not saying that DS should or will be an alternate costume of Samus, but it's not exactly a hard thing to do.

 

[Stryks]

WTF? Kirby and jiggly are the f'kin same, same shape, body and everything, its just the ears and eyes and stuff...

Zelda and peach have totally similair bodys, luigi and mario? cmon, dark samus is metroid prime using the phazon suit as a base, like u said, but the guy at least wil lmove diferently, the guy NEVER touches the ground, he floats and is made of phazon, seriously giving the heroine an alt costume as her nemesis is kinda degrading for the bad guy...

Yes I get what ur gettin that, but cmon if they were allies ok, I wouldnt complain really, but its the bad guy!

 

[Gypsy Lee]

ATTENTION!

If you or someone you know has never played a Metroid game before, then don't, I repeat DON'T say that Ridley and or Dark Samus are clones of Bowser and Samus, (respectively) and you REALLY shouldn't say that they are undeserving of a character spot. All you will do is piss people off and make yourself look like an idiot, because obviously, you don't know what you're talking about.

Thank you.

(That isn't directed at anyone above me, it's just for future reference. I'm just tired of arguments starting the same way.)
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Hey guys, lately I've been wondering whether Ridley or Meta Ridley (I know that they're the same guy) should be in Brawl. I was weighing the pros and cons of both, and wanted to see which one you all think would be the better suited Ridley.

So here is what I came up with:

Ridley

Pros

Ridley is the original version of Ridley, how Ridley was intended to be by the games' makers

Ridley has appeared in several of the more popular, 2D Metroid games

Ridley is purple, which is probably the biggest thing going for him

Cons

Ridley doesn't have much to offer for a unique moveset, he'd be more of a combination of characters than anything

Ridley hasn't made an appearance in anything since the 90's (excluding Melee)

Ridley has only appeared in 2D (other than Melee, but he didn't even have a tail in the intro, plus that was a cinematic, it wasn't in game)


Meta Ridley

Pros

Meta Ridley appears in the most recent Metroid games

Meta Ridley already has a fully 3D model

Meta Ridley has an arsenal of weapons, (missles, bombs, etc.) that would offer more options for a moveset

Meta Ridley is the more widely known and more popular version of the two Ridleys (in America at least)


Cons

Meta Ridley isn't the actual version of Ridley

Meta Ridley has only appeared in Metroid Prime and the upcoming Metroid Prime 3

Japan doesn't give a rat's a** about Metroid Prime

 

[Stryks]

Well both could just be alt. costumes, same for MP3 ridley, I want to use that kick *** blue and shiny wings ridley!

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Metroid Prime 3 Ridley is Meta Ridley, just with a bit of phazon on 'em.

 

[the grim lizard]

ATTENTION!

If you or someone you know has never played a Metroid game before, then don't, I repeat DON'T say that Ridley and or Dark Samus are clones of Bowser and Samus, (respectively) and you REALLY shouldn't say that they are undeserving of a character spot. All you will do is piss people off and make yourself look like an idiot, because obviously, you don't know what you're talking about.

Thank you.

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Hey guys, lately I've been wondering whether Ridley or Meta Ridley (I know that they're the same guy) should be in Brawl. I was weighing the pros and cons of both, and wanted to see which one you all think would be the better suited Ridley.

lol...thanks for the disclaimer, but I have actually played every single Metroid game, each one at least twice except for the first two...and I never actually beat the original because it was insanely hard, and I just didn't have the desire or patience. (I kept losing damage like crazy in certain rooms and every room looked the same...just, meh)

Definitely the original Ridley.

Ok look by the time Brawl is released I would already clear Metroid prime 3, releasing in august, thus Dark samus would be in two games so meh...

True I get what ur saying, but Dark samus is samus main villain in the prime series, u know the one that brought abck metroid to our consoles? I knw they have like a ton of similarities, but seeig hwo sakurai has had over 2 years now to make a game, Im sure he would have time to make every character unique, yes she can turn out a clone, but NEVER an alt. costume...

I don't know anything about Corruption as I have not watched a single trailer, anything. I don't mind knowing a few things, but I don't want to ruin the plot for myself as it unfolds during the game when I first play it.

Having said that, do you know if Aether ties into the story of the 3rd prime at all? Aside from the connection to Dark Samus, that is...

 

[Gypsy Lee]

lol...thanks for the disclaimer, but I have actually played every single Metroid game, each one at least twice except for the first two...and I never actually beat the original because it was insanely hard, and I just didn't have the desire or patience. (I kept losing damage like crazy in certain rooms and every room looked the same...just, meh)

Definitely the original Ridley.

I don't know anything about Corruption as I have not watched a single trailer, anything. I don't mind knowing a few things, but I don't want to ruin the plot for myself as it unfolds during the game when I first play it.

Having said that, do you know if Aether ties into the story of the 3rd prime at all? Aside from the connection to Dark Samus, that is...

From what I've gathered, DS is traveling from planet to planet planting phazon seeds. With the help of the Hunters, you must stop her. So, I guess nothing about Aether....

You should watch a gameplay video here (no spoilers in it). It's the one in the top right hand corner.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748547/vids_1.html

As for beating the original Metroid: 4 Mountain Dews, an astronaut diaper, and patience my friend............ patience.

 

[Phaazoid]

i personally hope both dark samus and ridley get in. a big difference between them is there is no zero suit dark samus. and dark samus could use the phazon beam, have an awesome final smash, and have original special moves. dark samus is the runner up after ridley for brawl.

 

[lanky_gunner]

of course, there is NO other choice for the metroid serie. and i highly agree that dark samus can have a unique moveset based upon the boss battles in echoes

 

[TDub301]

I think I was misunderstood with my earlier post. I was not saying that DS should be a clone or even be luigified. When you pick DS as a costume, the same regular attacks are still used, but the special moves will change to match DS's moves in Echoes. I never played Echoes, I will say that, but I know that they would essentially be the same character model and would most likely use too many similar REGULAR attacks and smashes and such that it seems like a waste of an original character spot. I just think it would be better if it was the situation I indicated above. I don't think DS should be a clone at all, too different. I just like the idea of the different options if you change up the costume.

Also, the main villain in the new Metroid series is Metroid Prime, not necessarily Dark Samus. Dark Samus is just a new version of Metroid Prime, but still the same entity. With that being said, Ridley has been a very important villain since the beginning and is as old to the Metroid series as Samus herself, which definitely puts Ridley way above DS on the list of characters that deserve to make it into Brawl.

I wouldn't mind either way, I like Metroid more than most other nintendo series, ever since Super Metroid, one of the greatest games ever. So I wouldn't mind more characters getting in even after these 3. But if DS got in, that would be my choice way of it happening.

Edit: And if Sakurai wanted Samus to use the Phazon beam, she could use it. Don't be surprised if that's her final smash in Brawl.

 

[Stryks]

My GOD I didnt just read that, typical...

Ok so u have NEVER played echoes, and yet u say they would fight the same? my GOD ur wrong, this is a golden rule in game forums, and in life: NEVER JUDGE SOMETHING BEFORE EXPERIENCING IT!

Dark samus floats, samus does not
Samus has screw attack, dark samus does not
dark samus can become invisible, samus cant
Dark samus is made of phazon, samus is not
samus is a human being, dark samus is metroid prime using the phazon suit as a body

Dark samus wouldnt use punches and kicks, cause thats not her style, she will probably use phazon to attack, not punches and kicks, more like phazon waves... Believe me the only thing similair is the second part of dark samus name and the physical shape...

 

[the grim lizard]

Ridley for Brawl!!!!

 

[lanky_gunner]

no missiles either. she has a shot, but i don't think it can be charged.

anyway this is off topic. this isn't the Dark Samus thread, this is the...F-IN...RIDLEY...FOR...BRAWL...THREAD!!!


Ridley for brawl

 

[the grim lizard]

True I get what ur saying, but Dark samus is samus main villain in the prime series

Also, the main villain in the new Metroid series is Metroid Prime, not necessarily Dark Samus. Dark Samus is just a new version of Metroid Prime, but still the same entity.

Despite his absence in Echoes, Ridley is still the main villain of the Metroid series, even of the Prime series if you think about it. If you want to talk about the main boss or the main enemies or whatever fine. Those could be Metroid Prime or Dark Samus or the Metroids or the Space Pirates...

But they're all connected. I'm sure you guys all know that, being Metroid fans and reading all the extra info. and such. Ridley is the mastermind behind it all. He commands the Space Pirates, all of which work for him to gather Phazon and study/experiment on Metroids as well as other things. Dark Samus is a result of the Metroids and the experiments and the phazon, etc.etc.

Ridley is still the controller. He is the main villain; we all know this, though. I just wanted to clarify that Ridley is and has always been the main villain, even in the Prime series....because, Ridley is awesome! And he's gonna be in Brawl mos-def.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Ridley isn't the leader of the Space Pirates, grim. The Mother Brain and the 'councel' are. Ridley has no word in anything, he's a high ranking commander, that's all. Ridley is just the "arch nemesis" of Samus Aran because he lead a raid on her homeworld and killed her parents.

 

[OysterMeister]

Well, honestly, both of you are wrong, maybe, possibly. Nobody knows the exact details of Ridley's involvment with the space pirates. He may just be a high ranking commander, true. But he may also be more. He might have a seat on the council himself for all we know. And as for mother brain, it's not really clear there either. Maybe mother brain just handled the basic security and matenence of the planet until Samus blew her up. There's no edvidence that mother brain was the top authority.

But the point is that every time there's major trouble with space pirates, Ridley is ALWAYS there. Who cares if he's the top dog or just a really powerful minion?