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[derkapalooza]

smoking weed and ****** women are two very different things though lol

 

[Vorguen]

Stealing isnt as bad a murder, but you don't see me going around jacking shit.

I agree with this statement.

hahaha if u havent tried it yet... then why judge? i say once u try it then alright u can talk.... stealing been there done that... marijuana been there.. murder dont plan to... minor in possession been there too hahaha so.... they are all illegal... but always fun.. except murder... so why not enjoy life... and get out of ur apartment and experience!!!

I disagree, first off thats like saying you can't judge something if you've never done it. It's like saying you worked your butt off to get an A in a class and someone else cheated and got the same grade, you can't judge him because you didn't cheat. Thats not true, we are not supposed to judge at ALL but it doesn't take half a brain to realize when something is not good for you.

You say "marijuana isn't as bad as alcohol" and you know what its probably true, alcohol causes a ton of deaths per year NOT because it kills you but because people kill themselves while under the influence of it.

Does this mean marijuana is not bad? no, it just means marijuana and alcohol are two separate things that are not good.

Personally, I'm not all for things that alter my state of mind and mess with my brain and body. Do I judge you or think of you differently for wanting to smoke marijuana? No. Does it mean I can't have an opinion on it because I've never tried it? Nope.

Experience / Experiment are words used to make an excuse for doing something you are not supposed to. I know marijuana is bad for me and I don't have to "feel the effects" of it to know that it is. I care for my body enough not to try it to begin with. You don't have to go out and experiment on things to have fun, everyone has fun in different ways. Magik has fun pwning nubs at a pokemans tournament, Rei gun has fun not eating cows, you have fun clubbing, J has fun skateboarding, etc. Everyone has fun in a different way and what makes 1 person happy may not apply to everyone or even ANYONE else so therefore your statement of "go out and experiment and enjoy life" does not make any sense because to a lot of us going out and experimenting would not = enjoying life.


<3 you though pax

I bet **** is pretty fun too, no? I think I'll go smoke out and then **** some chicks. Sounds like a pretty fun night to me.

/sarcasm

I agree with the sarcasm in this statement.

 

[Magik0722]

hahaha if u havent tried it yet... then why judge? i say once u try it then alright u can talk.... stealing been there done that... marijuana been there.. murder dont plan to... minor in possession been there too hahaha so.... they are all illegal... but always fun.. except murder... so why not enjoy life... and get out of ur apartment and experience!!!

I don't have to try it to feel its effects, drugs, particularly weed has ruined at least 3 of my previous friendships.

Do I judge you or think of you differently for wanting to smoke marijuana? No.

Man we were almost eye to eye here, the only thing different is that i do judge them differently.

 

[C 2the loud]

Pax is Goku he cant be wrong.

 

[C 2the loud]

i had to, sorry.

 

[Vorguen]

Man we were almost eye to eye here, the only thing different is that i do judge them differently.

LOL thats funny this would be a good time for a "no mercy for the weak" joseph moya quote

but yeah I know what you mean... I still hate drugs but I try to hate the sin not the sinner if you know what I mean.

And I don't like how weed is used as an excuse either because "its not really a drug its just a plant" but I can't name how many people I know who started with weed but kept going.

 

[Vorguen]

LOL that Stalin picture made me laugh pretty hard...

it reminded me a lot of this one (or any ROFL MAO pics) which I find hilarious

 

[paco27291]

I agree with this statement.



I disagree, first off thats like saying you can't judge something if you've never done it. It's like saying you worked your butt off to get an A in a class and someone else cheated and got the same grade, you can't judge him because you didn't cheat. Thats not true, we are not supposed to judge at ALL but it doesn't take half a brain to realize when something is not good for you.

You say "marijuana isn't as bad as alcohol" and you know what its probably true, alcohol causes a ton of deaths per year NOT because it kills you but because people kill themselves while under the influence of it.

Does this mean marijuana is not bad? no, it just means marijuana and alcohol are two separate things that are not good.

Personally, I'm not all for things that alter my state of mind and mess with my brain and body. Do I judge you or think of you differently for wanting to smoke marijuana? No. Does it mean I can't have an opinion on it because I've never tried it? Nope.

Experience / Experiment are words used to make an excuse for doing something you are not supposed to. I know marijuana is bad for me and I don't have to "feel the effects" of it to know that it is. I care for my body enough not to try it to begin with. You don't have to go out and experiment on things to have fun, everyone has fun in different ways. Magik has fun pwning nubs at a pokemans tournament, Rei gun has fun not eating cows, you have fun clubbing, J has fun skateboarding, etc. Everyone has fun in a different way and what makes 1 person happy may not apply to everyone or even ANYONE else so therefore your statement of "go out and experiment and enjoy life" does not make any sense because to a lot of us going out and experimenting would not = enjoying life.


<3 you though pax



I agree with the sarcasm in this statement.

It does take some degree of knowledge to know something is not wrong to do and we are also influenced about how we grow up, an example are those people in the middle east raised to suicide and believe they will go to heaven with several virgins,... and if u know stealing is wrong why do u do it? i have seen u do it, but why? it puts u (ur body and mind) in danger of being caught, and ur argument can go both ways... experience... u can experience both legal and illegal things.. a guy that says brawl sux and has never played it... why is he judging if he has never done it... a guy who says hamburgers taste bad but yet has never eaten one how can he be right? and no one in this world is a saint to not judge... its in our nature... we judge people... by how they dress, how their physique is etc... judging will occur so dont come up with that stuff about we are not supposed to judge.. thats in a utopia.. everyone does it!! regardless if u try or not, u do it.... and just cuz it ruined other people's lives doesnt mean its gonna ruin everyone's... some people just overdo it and abuse it... u can abuse anything... abuse playing video games and u have no social life... if affects u negatively... u become sedentary... gain fat %... lose ur eyesight... etc.... but well it all comes down to who u are... whether u want to do it or not... and when i say experience.... i say experience things u are curious about... dont go to the extreme and be stupid and say ****... i mean.. make ur research first... be smart about what ur curious about... know its not gonna kill u or affect ur body or mind to the extreme.... know that ur body can recover if u do it... pero como dicen cada kien con su pedo!!

 

[Don Guero]

andilex stfu you like glee

Glee is the ****!!!!!!

best show ever!

Btw pax, the "cada quien su pedo" argument is non legit
i love you bro but i also love debate, and thats a low blow

 

[paco27291]

LOL thats funny this would be a good time for a "no mercy for the weak" joseph moya quote

but yeah I know what you mean... I still hate drugs but I try to hate the sin not the sinner if you know what I mean.

And I don't like how weed is used as an excuse either because "its not really a drug its just a plant" but I can't name how many people I know who started with weed but kept going.

do u drink alcohol? or have u ever done it? if u have then u are a hypocrite... hate urself cuz its a drug... the only reason why people look down in marijuana is cuz its illegal... once again the government cant hold the patent and cant make a profit so they make it illegal.. not cuz it produces potheads.... otherwise alcohol and nicotine would be illegal... cigarettes alone kill hundreds of thousands of people... alcohol kills neurons, kills the liver, etc.. and produces drunks... so why is marijuana illegal? cuz its bad? haha

I <3 u too vorgy!!! i like arguing though

 

[C 2the loud]

boom roasted by pax. we need brawly up in here....then it will be a party.

 

[Magik0722]

wtf since when has weed become chicken soup for the soul.

Its a ****ing plant you inhale, how in gods name is that good for you.
Theres no experience to be had, its just a masturbatory activity for a bunch of idiot who buy into stupid **** like herp derp 420 culture bro, sticking it to the man.

Don't mind me, just being morally superior to you druggies.

 

[C 2the loud]

boom roasted by magik. what will they say next?!@?!!?!?@?@!?@

 

[paco27291]

wtf since when has weed become chicken soup for the soul.

Its a ****ing plant you inhale, how in gods name is that good for you.
Theres no experience to be had, its just a masturbatory activity for a bunch of idiot who buy into stupid **** like herp derp 420 culture bro, sticking it to the man.

Don't mind me, just being morally superior to you druggies.

wut do u consider a druggie magik? someone that has drank beer before? someone that has smoked before cigarettes or weed? i mean they are all drugs and categorized in the same subject DRUGS... and marijuana has been used to treat anorexia and autism.. u categorize all of us into drug addicts when we arent... i am not smoking weed 24/7.. i am graduating already with a bachelors in science... so i am not an idiot... u have ur opinion i have mine... experience what u want to...

 

[C 2the loud]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYqMaecLDg

 

[Magik0722]

Yes, someone does any kind of those drugs are idiots. You said it yourself alcohol and cigarettes are supposedly more dangerous than weed. It's a filthy habit that the world would be better off without.

 

[C 2the loud]

 

[paco27291]

Well yes.. i agree.. but people like enjoying themselves... and not everything is as bad as elementary teachers or D.A.R.E. put it out to be... read up on some stuff and u'll be surprised on some benefits that drugs have

 

[Don Guero]

do u drink alcohol? or have u ever done it? if u have then u are a hypocrite... hate urself cuz its a drug... the only reason why people look down in marijuana is cuz its illegal... once again the government cant hold the patent and cant make a profit so they make it illegal.. not cuz it produces potheads.... otherwise alcohol and nicotine would be illegal... cigarettes alone kill hundreds of thousands of people... alcohol kills neurons, kills the liver, etc.. and produces drunks... so why is marijuana illegal? cuz its bad? haha

I <3 u too vorgy!!! i like arguing though

this is a VERY good point. however since they cant put a pantet on the drug then they cant control the rate consumed by people by raising taxes on it ect. so if marujuana was legalized, people would be getting high all over the place which cant be good. the thing is, that most people turn to drugs to solve a problem that they have instead of just smoking for a hobby. im guessing its a hobby for you but the people with prblems that cant function without the drug cant be controlled and they end up hurting themselves and the people around them

 

[paco27291]

yes... but look at alcohol... its legal... is everyone drunk?

 

[Magik0722]

Well yes.. i agree.. but people like enjoying themselves... and not everything is as bad as elementary teachers or D.A.R.E. put it out to be... read up on some stuff and u'll be surprised on some benefits that drugs have

not as bad as it seems to be? Even taking an optimistic look at it I would still see it as bad, which is why i stand by what I said, The world would be better off without it.

 

[Don Guero]

yes... but look at alcohol... its legal... is everyone drunk?

guess not but it is a problem in america

 

[paco27291]

guess not but it is a problem in america

yes... but the thing is that we are not in a utopia... even if drugs were removed totally we would still have crime... and ur totally right guero... some people become addicted to it psychologically or physiologically but... well not everyone... but oh well i am gonna get back to studying

 

[C 2the loud]

Pax is taking you all to school and you aint even getting A's.

 

[Reizilla]

Magik, at Denny's, did they ask to see your ID before giving you a free grandslam?

 

[Magik0722]

I didn't go.

 

[Reizilla]

Don't let the fact that you can never be perfect stop you from trying your hardest to be.

That statement can be applied any which way to this world. Just because we don't live in the perfect Utopia, doesn't mean we can't try to make it as close as possible.

 

[Reizilla]

I was with you, Magik. On your birthday.

 

[Magik0722]

Oh on my birthday, I honestly dont remember if they did or not.

 

[Reizilla]

Curses. I want one right now, but I don't think I'm getting it, but I still want one.

 

[Magik0722]

Vorguen take off that melee part in the Brawl & melee tag, you know its dead down here.

 

[Reizilla]

Legends get remembered. But Melee never dies.

 

[Vorguen]

It does take some degree of knowledge to know something is not wrong to do and we are also influenced about how we grow up, an example are those people in the middle east raised to suicide and believe they will go to heaven with several virgins,...

This is true but we're not in the Middle East and regardless of anything the point remains that you know you aren't doing something good for you, you said it yourself here.

a guy that says brawl sux and has never played it... why is he judging if he has never done it... a guy who says hamburgers taste bad but yet has never eaten one how can he be right? and no one in this world is a saint to not judge... its in our nature... we judge people... by how they dress, how their physique is etc... judging will occur so dont come up with that stuff about we are not supposed to judge.. thats in a utopia.. everyone does it!! regardless if u try or not, u do it....

You forget that you can know yourself well enough to decide that there is something you won't like. There are grey areas, yeah, but for the most part you'll know sometimes there is something you won't like before you try it. I know I won't like making out with another guy, I don't need to try it to find out that I won't. That is an exagerated example, but there is a difference. Someone who says "brawl sucks" is expressing an opinion, an opinion is something unique to every person and rarely based on fact. Even an opinion based on fact isn't always true, it still remains, an opinion. If you hate bread, and you hate meat, it is only logical to decide that a hamburger would taste horrible for you. Saying they taste bad period is again an opinion.

Also, I never said I am free from blame from judging people. I simply said I don't judge people based on what they consume and ingest. I would prefer nobody did it, but if you do something that's your deal. If you read my post correctly I simply stated "if you want to smoke marijuana I won't judge you" I did not say "I don't judge anyone ever".

Also, in a utopia, drugs wouldn't exist

and if u know stealing is wrong why do u do it? i have seen u do it, but why? it puts u (ur body and mind) in danger of being caught, and ur argument can go both ways... experience... u can experience both legal and illegal things..

I am guilty of this, yes. I'll tell you a story, it's been about a long time since I've stolen anything. I started stealing for the rush, I thought it was exciting, then I realized it was easy and I kept doing it because I saved money. I mostly stole things at a gas station for food. In the end I decided not to, I realized that people who do things like I did are an additional number to a bigger problem. I stopped stealing a while while back and decided I never was going to again.

What kind of slapped me in the face to realize this was a situation I was in. I believed strongly in never stealing from another person, I only stole from stores like Wal Mart and maybe a gas station, and usually just a snack or a couple of bucks. I got put in a position to steal over 100-200 dollars from a lady. I didn't know her, there was no way to get caught, I wouldn't have to be faced with any form of repricussion, but I have always thought that you can escape the law, but you can never escape your own mind. It kind of shocked me to realize that I considered it, I realized how I inched my way to that, and if I didn't stop now I could really grow something evil in my heart. It had creeped up on me without me even realizing it.

Its like planting a seed, or you can think of it as what the government calls "tip toe totalitarianism". They can't take away your freedom all at once, so they do it bit by bit and little by little until you realize that over the last couple of years you have lost a substantial amount of your freedom.

I'm not perfect, but I believe in self-growth and self-improvement. I realized my problem and overcame it.

and just cuz it ruined other people's lives doesnt mean its gonna ruin everyone's...

Right and this is another reason why I don't do it. Because it HAS the possibility of ruining my life, whether or not I can handle it is something I don't want to figure out. I have strong self-control and I believe I could handle it if I wanted, but on top of putting myself at what I believe to be an uncecessary risk I don't like to harm my body.

If you can control it Pax then that's your deal. I have no problem with you doing what you want to do in your own time. Everyone has the right to seek their own self-destruction and at the pace they want to seek it at. Some people want to seek it fast and do cocaine and hard drugs, other people faster and commit suicide.

some people just overdo it and abuse it... u can abuse anything... abuse playing video games and u have no social life... if affects u negatively... u become sedentary... gain fat %... lose ur eyesight... etc....

True, everything in excess is bad for you. This quote will apply to practically anything. Water? you can drown yourself if you drink too much, granted it's practically impossible but you'll damage yourself internally a lot trying either way. Excessive video gaming? Yeah that's possible too, and I'm known for having done it in the past but like you it was a decision I made and everyone has their own choices to make. I am simply stating that you are saying "its okay just go out and experiment and have fun" but thats not true for everyone. Experimenting is NOT fun for everyone, going out to a party, club, or "social event" is NOT fun for everyone. Some people have fun being at home being sedentary.

but well it all comes down to who u are...

And here are the magic words, it comes down to who you are. Thank you for clarifying my point for me.

whether u want to do it or not... and when i say experience.... i say experience things u are curious about...

I'm curious about a lot of things that I decide I will never experience or experiment with. Humans are naturally curious, we are meant to NOT experience many things. I really hope you don't get curious about other men one day Pax, you might have to live your word down.

dont go to the extreme and be stupid and say ****... i mean.. make ur research first... be smart about what ur curious about... know its not gonna kill u or affect ur body or mind to the extreme.... know that ur body can recover if u do it... pero como dicen cada kien con su pedo!!

Why not go to the extreme? You went to the extreme several times in your argument, you even pointed out that I used to steal and how an absolutely sedentary life can destroy your health.

You are saying that when you feel like doing something you should just do it, and indulge yourself in things that aren't good for you. There are a lot of problems in the world because of people who indulge, to you it may be marijuana, to people in Africa it may be ****. Its almost an every day thing in some parts and people don't think its the worse to do, but in the end, the collective mind of billions of people letting themselves do something they know they shouldn't is the reason we have so many problems in the world.

You say be smart about what you are curious about but who draws the line?

do u drink alcohol? or have u ever done it? if u have then u are a hypocrite... hate urself cuz its a drug...

I don't drink alcohol. I have, and whenever I do its only wine and beer, and I never abuse alcohol.

yes... but look at alcohol... its legal... is everyone drunk?

yes

yes... but the thing is that we are not in a utopia... even if drugs were removed totally we would still have crime... and ur totally right guero... some people become addicted to it psychologically or physiologically but... well not everyone... but oh well i am gonna get back to studying

Drugs are a root of a bigger problem but alas thats not what the debate is about. In the end I am just pointing out that your lifestyle is great and its amazing but its only great and amazing for you. It won't suit anyone else, everyone has their own lifestyle and finds happiness in their own way and some people are happy not being as social and some people are happy taking care of themselves, its just the way things are. I've been to plenty of parties and I've been to clubs many times and bars and frankly I don't really think I had fun at any of them. The absolute only thing I liked there was dancing, and to be honest every single time I went to one there was no dancing in I had no fun. So to me having fun is in an entirely different way than you and I could probably not go out for the rest of my life and not have a problem with it.

 

[Magik0722]

Heres a list i used on my birthday reigun
http://www.frugalliving.tv/free-stuff/birthday-freebies.html

 

[Reizilla]

Wish I knew all of that earlier

 

[Vorguen]

Vorguen take off that melee part in the Brawl & melee tag, you know its dead down here.

I believe that was Shank's doing, he asked me for my account info. I don't know how to take it off do you?

 

[Vorguen]

LOL a frugal living website I should have known about this earlier one day you have to show me all this stuff Magik... speaking of which that reminds me can you send me the Pokemon manga?


And Rei-gun, I agree with the majority of your logic.

 

[Reizilla]

My logic is Magik tier. Which is right above Pax tier. OOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!!! HYPE!!!!!! MM $9001 right now!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

 

[Magik0722]

Pokemon Adventures 01-07 RGBY:
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Pokemon Adventures 08-15 GSC:
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Pokemon Adventures 30 DP:
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Pokemon Adventures 31-32 DP:
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[paco27291]

"You forget that you can know yourself well enough to decide that there is something you won't like." Definitely not ture gonzalo... there are many things u prolly had not done in ur life at one time and once u experience it u liked it.. perfect example is trying new foods out and judging is stating ur own opinion

"If you can control it Pax then that's your deal. I have no problem with you doing what you want to do in your own time. Everyone has the right to seek their own self-destruction and at the pace they want to seek it at. Some people want to seek it fast and do cocaine and hard drugs, other people faster and commit suicide."

u said u wouldnt judge yet ur doing it here, dont contradict

ur also just cutting things and they are not making sense... when i said curious i meant be smart about it.. and u as a person draw ur own line, i said dont go to the extreme and u bring up the point of going gay

"Why not go to the extreme? You went to the extreme several times in your argument, you even pointed out that I used to steal and how an absolutely sedentary life can destroy your health. You are saying that when you feel like doing something you should just do it,"

i pointed out FACTS and they are not extreme.. they are true... and i never said to do something if u feel like doing it.. i said be smart about what u want to try... being smart means thinking things over before u act... gathering information... know how its gonna affect u not just do it cuz u want to.. thats plain stupid and thats how people die or go to jail

not everyone is drunk.... there are people that dont drink at all yet they are 21... there is a higher percent of the population who are not considered alcoholics

drugs are a problem yes... but if taken off theres still money.. isnt money considered the root of all evil in a quote.. well it leads to problems too... there are a lot of things not just drugs.....

and thats why i said "cada kien con su pedo" try everything u want to try... a person themselves draws the line and no one else...

and yea rei-gun.. by all means people should try to be as perfect as they want to... i am not stopping anyone with any statement...

and well.... i rather talk about this later on.... but TALK not type.. takes too much time... love discussing such things as these