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reseting the neutral position of the analog stick, c stick, and shoulder buttons

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Smash Journeyman
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Mar 9, 2008
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im sure everyone here has had that problem where you turn your system on, you get to the menu, and even though you aren't touching the analog stick, your cursor is going crazy, and you have to unplug your controller to fix it.

well, if you look inside your user manual for any gc game (which i'm most of you haven't bothered reading), in the beginning it tells you that the neutral position of these buttons is determined by how they're positioned when your controller in plugged in or when the system is turned on. you can also reset the neutral position by holding x, y, and start for 3 seconds.

i've done some experimenting with this and it can do some neat things. like tap jumping can be pretty much disabled (or atleast made harder to do) by making the analog stick being tilted down as it's neutral position. perfect wavedashing (is where your airdodge is almost horizontal) becomes easier by making the analog stick's neutral position tilted up. light shielding can be disabled as well by making the shoulder buttons being depressed as their neutral position. some aerials (other than the neutral air) can be performed with the analog stick in the standard neutral position.

maybe this'd be worth experimenting with?
 

Zantetsu

Smash Master
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I've known a lot of people who don't know about this. Even I was only told quite recently.

I've never used it for any ways to make things easier or different, but rather to fix a problem. My controller has a very tiny sensitivity problem where I can just push up a very tiny bit and my controller recognizes it, but left, down, and right don't do it. This prevents me from doing things like short hops with the joystick and up smash/grab out of shine. Every time I have to play, I hold my joystick up just a tiny bit to make the sensitivity switch to down instead of up. It doesn't mess me up on anything as far as I know.

You can reset your positions while your controller is plugged in by holding START+X+Y. It's a lot nicer to do that when you see your joystick is not neutralized and the gamecube is far away.
 

erbanez

Smash Apprentice
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A friend of mine did this purposely to work on button pressing jumps, using or not using the c stick, etc

:phone:
 

Ace55

Smash Lord
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I know one player who uses this for power shielding. I actually have a controller who's C-stick is messed up so you can't tap-jump and I hate it.

Also I'd advice you to change the title to 'Changing/altering the neutral position of the analog stick, c stick, and shoulder buttons'. I thought you were just gonna tell us that it's possible to reset the neutral position of the controller.
 

hectohertz

Smash Ace
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Aug 20, 2006
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Brooklyn, NY
some players use the disable-lightshielding trick to make powershielding easier


still not sure whether its legal in tourneys tho
 

Life

Smash Hero
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I've known about this since it was LRstart on 64's controllers. Just one of those things I took for granted, I guess.

I have a Wavebird that acts like the control stick is off-kilter no matter where I'm holding it, one controller that doesn't always register upward taps (really hurts when I try to uthrow and have to tap again and they mash out in the meantime), one controller that's... something is wrong with its stick too, I don't recall but I think it's the same problem as the Wavebird... and one actual properly-working controller. Tips?
 

Tee ay eye

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i always disable analog inputs on my L button when i plug in my controller since i don't use L at all. i just hold down L when i plug in or while I X+Y+Start, and this prevents me from messing myself up by accidentally bumping the L trigger when i play.
 

Massive

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I know one player who uses this for power shielding.
It also makes wavedashing easier.

Just hold down R or L (whichever you use to wavedash) all the way while recalibrating and you will never light-shield unintentionally at the end of a wavedash again.
 
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