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Chance - 0% - I think the Mii costume at this point can be considered a disconfirmation if you're 3rd party.
Want - 20% - Meh.
Fawful
Chance - 0.25% - Not having usual level of furry. Am sorry, but just able to be having match for other characters. Not making time of now, but latter...
Want - 20% - Dialogue of Fawful is much funnies, but not quite as proper for playable.
Predictions
Dan Hibiki - 0.01% - ...Pichu was enough.
Chin - 0% - A so-bad-it's-good does not make for a compelling argument.
Lloyd
Double 0
Third Party character who is far from iconic
Fawful
Chance 1%
He is considered by many the main antagonist of the M&L series and has decent fanbase size, despite that though these fans are not necessarily Smash fans.
Want: 40%
Chortles
Prediction double 0
Nominate Smash 4 DLC characters in vanilla Smash 5(preferably rating the characters separately) x15
Always been in the Mii-costume-is-not-a-good-sign corner, but unlike the Squid Kids and the Rool, Lloyd really has little support. I doubt we'll see anything here, and I'm not fussed about it.
Fawful:
Chance: 0%
Want: 0%
Irrelevant, generic, and unsupported. Need I say more?
Predictions: both 0%
Nom: I guess we should talk about the Inklings again at some point x5
PS: I'm really interested to see how many people correctly guessed the Mahjong tile's score...
Lloyd chances: 0.12%
As far as third-party contents we got as DLC we got Ryu as a fully fledged playable character and many other Capcom/Sega/Namco as nothing but Mii costumes (including Lloyd himself). If this pattern is to believed it means that other third-parties from companies currently involved in Smash 4 aren't gonna make it unless they're huge, which Lloyd isn't.
Lloyd want: 0%
No connection to him, and not interested.
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Fawful chances: 0.02%
M&L doesn't seem to be the kind of series which will get priority for contents in Smash let alone a playable character. I don't see it happening.
Fawful want: 2%
I have no connection with him.
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Prediction for both: ...
okay, I'll have a little fun and predict a flat zero for both characters.
Nominating: (I'll use extra 10s because I correctly predicted that Mahjong tile would get a flat zero)
New stage: Pokémon GO x5
Concept: no DK character for DLC x10
Pretty sure Mahjong tile gave more extra nominations to people through its exact zero predictions than the number of nominations needed to rate it in the first place so use them wisely rather than to nominate joke characters!
Lloyd
Chance: 1%
Not highly requested, but the Tales series is one of the more popular ones in Namco's library. However, I don't think Lloyd matches the legendary status that Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, and Ryu have. Want: 10%
Might be cool.
Fawful
Chance and Want: Double Zeroes
A popular villain whose RPG series has moved on from him really.
After all... he died in Bowser's Inside Story.
He's not that requested either.
I do like Fawful, but not enough for Smash.
Dan Prediction: 0%
Oh dear god. Chin Prediction: 0%
He won't get in Smash; he is too powerful for Smash.
EDIT: Adding extra nominations.
Lloyd:
Chances: 0.2%
Want:0%
Fawful:
Chances:0%
Want: 10%
Predictions:
Dan:0%
Chin: Okay I feel like I really need to ask who this Chin guy is, I can't find the guy even on a google search since the body part, the nation-state, and the people are like five trillion times more relevant than whatever this is from, so it's nearly impossible for me to find or research whoever this is, would anyone be kind enough to tell me who this is?
Nominations: Rerate! Dark Matter x 5
Lloyd Irving Chance: 0.7%
Mii Fighter costume makes him less likely in my opinion along with the fact that we already got a third party DLC character. I'll give the main character of Tale of Symphonia A rating of only 0.7%, which is a 0.2% drop from my original rating.
I'd be surprised if he somehow managed to make his way onto the roster...
Want: 1.2%
Just don't really care much for him.
Fawful Chance: 0.4%
Sakurai doesn't really seem to care about adding a lot of representation from the Mario & Luigi line of games. I'll give the Beanish antagonist a small score of 0.4%.
Really not much to say...
Want: 1.3%
I don't really care about this character either.
Too bad I don't even have time anymore. Couldn't even end the day if I wanted to. I'm not even sure I can ever be a regular in this state. There's the real tragedy. This great humor, this insane creativity... it's gone forever maybe. Raters everywhere are no doubt weeping at the thought!
Erureido: *Takes a seat on a soothing chair, the only object strangely illuminated thanks to a dim-lit path, and beings to discuss*
Lloyd Irving
Chance:1%
While a second Namco rep is still a possibility, I'm highly doubtful that Lloyd will be the one to get that title. He still isn't requested enough, and the Mii Costume only makes it worse for him.
Want:Abstain
Still haven't played the Tales series as of this post. That dual-wielding he has is an interesting play style, but there's one dual-wielder I would much rather see (hint hint: a certain Pokemon that is often seen as the male counterpart to Gardevoir).
^Fawful says watch until one minute mark is spotted. He also states to view Bowser in this video as a certain someone else
Fawful: " Now a guess talk between me and this fellow over there will unfold like a cookie and a glass of milk becoming best of friends on the first time. The topic today: my chance in Smash Bros and whether or not this fellow wishes to see me in that grandness."
Erureido: *Gets up from the ground*. Well, that was certainly quite an entrance you gave me, Fawful. Now, let's discuss!"
Fawful
Chance:1%
Fawful: "You hear excited crowd? That was sounds of fans triumphantly proclaiming my name. The fans love the quotes that come from my mouth. My words are as delicious as a ketchup's taste! Everyone also knows Fawful's importance to Red & Green's recipe. I was a villain in the first trilogy of greatness, and most importantly, I was the star villain of the game of greatest RPG praise!
Erureido: "You are most certainly right, Fawful. You are a highly popular character from the Mario and Luigi series. Everyone remembers you for your many hilarious quotes. You were also an important antagonist in the first Mario and Luigi games; in fact, you were a villain in the first three games. Well, you were more of a side character in the second game, but you were only preparing for what was to come in the following game, where you truly shined. In fact, you are the main antagonist of Bowser's Inside Story, the most critically acclaimed Mario RPG ever released.
Fawful: "I have chortles!"
Erureido: "But there are a few problems that put your chances of joining the Smash Bros cast at the moment. For starters, while you are a fairly new character, some will argue you aren't relevant to the series anymore, because of...
the ending to Bowser Inside's Story.
However, people still consider as one of the most important characters to the Mario and Luigi series, so there's that. The real issues you have at the moment are Smash Ballot popularity and Sakurai bias.
Fawful: "I speak with confusion. Why do these things hinder me from joining the grandness that is Smash Bros?"
Erureido: "Your fanbase doesn't necessarily translate to Smash fanbase. You have to compete with more popular Smash Ballot Mario characters like Captain Toad and Paper Mario to become the next potential Mario rep through DLC, and the popularity you have now doesn't compare to the likes of him and a few others.
Fawful: "I have fury! I placed at 126 of 438 others on that Individual Character Poll, and you know not?! You say that has nothing?"
Erureido: "It is an accomplishment you placed relatively high, and I think that's proof that you are requested and there are those that would be happy or wouldn't mind your inclusion. However, that poll doesn't speak on the entire Smash Bros community in the world. Like I said, characters like Captain Toad and Paper Mario are leading the charge due to their stronger importance and popularity, and you ballot popularity is quite low when compared to them.
"Fawful: "And what of the other problem that stops me? Something about a celebrity's personal wishes?"
Erureido: "Well, when I mean "Sakurai bias", I mean that he doesn't seem interested in giving the Mario and Luigi series a lot of representation. In fact, the only representation the Mario and Luigi series have in Smash right now is about a few songs and that's about it. If he liked the Mario and Luigi series more, we would probably seeing more music and even a stage from the Mario and Luigi games."
Fawful: "Fawful enrages at the words you given me!"
Erureido: "But I'm only stating the truth!"
Fawful: "Fawful shall now prepare this special guest's battle against the one and only Midbus, the-
Erureido: "WAIT!"
Want:65%
Erureido: "Let me get one thing straight. I'm not too interested in seeing the Mario series getting more representation through DLC since there's already plenty of Mario content in Smash 4."
Fawful: "Fawful scoffs at your words."
Erureido: "But... if you were included as the next Mario rep at this point, I wouldn't mind. In fact, I'd be happy to see you in! I have many fond memories playing the Mario and Luigi games, especially Bowser Inside's Story. You're many quotes were music to my ears, and I think if you were in Smash, it would be great if we got to hear them for the wider Smash Bros audience."
Fawful: "Why, you speak truth. My anger subdues. My words are more memorable and meme-inducing than the muscle man with a sword or the falcon that can speak."
Erureido: "Indeed, I also think you would have some very interesting options for your moveset. I'll let you take it away since your familiar with what you can do.
Fawful: "Most certain! First, I am master of science. I invent many gadgets that have stopped Red, Green, and Bowser in their tracks. I can use my gun to shoot various of lasers similar to another girl that dons a jump suit. There is also my great Vacuum Helmet of Doom. It can heal and fly me however I please. It can make me go for a swing like my battle against that foul Bowser. I can also use it to fire more lasers and suction my enemies into oblivion before a release of more destruction. I move around on my great overboard, which also helps the recovery when I am close to a falling danger. It can even turn into my secret little mecha fortress to hide behind enemy lines, shielded from vicious punches and kicks; it fires balls of energy to say 'back away', and it will even fire lasers from the eyes. Don't worry, I stay not too long within it. And for the Final Smash, I grab the Dark Star and enhance the powers from me, where I can then fire balls of energy on my own without the need of a mecha or a laser gun.
And if you dare deny Fawful can not do much else, must I remind you what that Sakurai did to Bowser's son? He presented more inventions for Bowser's son on to do, and he carried them out. If Sakurai ever approached me for the day I join the grandness of Smash, no doubt he will not deny my science genius and present new ideas I shall do against the likes of Red and Green."
Erureido: "Well, you said it better than I would!
I'll end this conversation off by saying that not counting Paper Mario, I believe you do a great job representing the Mario RPG games for reasons already stated. In fact, I would take you over any Super Mario RPG rep since you are not obscure and come from the most acclaimed Mario RPG game released."
Fawful: "Fawful enjoys sounds of your words. You may exit. I shall see what other Smashboard users have to say about me."
Erureido: "Yes, indeed. Thanks Fawful!"
*Leaves the stage.*
Predictions:
We are rating even more troll characters tomorrow?
We aren't scratching the bottom of the barrel. Tomorrow, we are clawing the bottom of the barrel.
Dan Hibiki (Street Fighter): 0.00% Chin (Hong Kong 97): 0.00%
Lloyd
Chance: 15%
The Tales franchise is one of Namco's heavy hitters and Lloyd is probably the most known character from it.
Having said that, Namco has a games, both new and old, they could pull more interesting characters from.
Want: 25%
I've only ever played Tales of Destiny and Tales of Eternia so I'm not really that familiar with Lloyd but a new character is a new character... :B
Fawful
Chance: 5%
While it would be nice for the Mario & Luigi games to get some recognition, it seems really unlikely. Especially with so many Mario characters in the game. :B
Want: 75%
Fawful could be a very interesting character. :D
Who's Chen? Is he related to Chin, Bruce Lee's cousin from Hong Kong 97 which actually is on a Nintendo console... I just realized I could nominate Chin.
Like very one already said, the Mii Costume is a real deal breaker and niot even the high requests will be enough to save him at this point. Such a shame too since he would have been a great fighter.
Want: 60%
Any Tales character will do, but I'd rather have in Lloyd first. I'd blame SSF2 on making me become interested in the idea.
Fawful:
Chance: 0%
Awww Finkrats. I don't have the chortles or votes to qualify as a character. Curses Sakurai!
Want: 100%
You better believe it, I have fury and Smash shall face the mustard of their doom since I am interested in getting my revenge against those plumbers.
Never thought a Tales character had much of a shot.
Want: 30%
Eh.
Fawful's chances: 1%
Don't see a Mario & Luigi character happening.
Want: 5%
I'd pick Paper Mario if one of the Mario RPG series had to get playable representation. Not a huge fan of Mario & Luigi and I'm not too interested in Fawful.
Prediction for both: 0%
Nominations: Saki x5, I'll use the other ten next day.
Honestly with characters like Chin and Dan tomorrow, and Asuka the day after, I think maybe we need to implement a new rule that the 10 Bonus nominations can only be earned if the character in question doesn't get 0.00% (In which case only give out 5). Handing out 130 bonus nominations a day just kind of seems over the top.
But I want to hear other people's opinion on this.
Lloyd
Chance: 0% - He is LONG past his prime.
Want: 0%
Fawful
Chance: 0%
Want: 10%
Nominations: Full Ballot Results Revealed x5
DAY OVER
PLEASE WAIT WHILE I CALCULATE THE RESULTS
Boring, Generic Swordman. Something Smash Bros doesn't need. And the fact people say this character should have been in over Pac-Man is just insulting to me. I've never been into RPG's in general ((Other than the Mario RPGs)) and I'm pretty much going to avoid Tales like Klonoa from now on.
Next up, BIG SURPRISE, more joke characters, Dan Hibiki and some guy named Chin. Also please predict what score Asuka and the concept of SSB4 DLC in vanilla?? SSB5.
Chin
Chance: 0%
It's safe to say, being serious here... Yeah.
Want: 100%
I would honestly buy him even it it only lasted one April Fools day. I'd get a good laugh, honestly.
Dan Hibiki of Street Fighter Alpha and IV fame, a joke character created as a parody of two individuals from a competing fighting game series who were inspired by Ryu and Ken.
Chin of Hong Kong '97 infamy, a character who bares a striking resemblance to actor Jackie Chan.
Quadruple zeroes for today. Dan would be a much better joke character than Pichu, though.
Eh...honestly I'm personally fine with keeping things as is, but I'm willing to hear any other opinions.
Extra nomination results and my own predictions and nominations tomorrow, but I think I can do the ratings now. I really don't think an explanation is needed for either.
Dan Hibiki and Chin: QUADRUPLE ZEROES
Next up, BIG SURPRISE, more joke characters, Dan Hibiki and some guy named Chin. Also please predict what score Asuka and the concept of SSB4 DLC in vanilla?? SSB5.
Is there any chance we can rate Mewtwo, Roy, Lucas and Ryu separately? That was the intention of the nominations but it just sounds awkward saying that. I have stated it before. Maybe it would be better saved for the day after
Anyway 0 everything, 0 prediction for the other thing.
Also, I think in regards to joke characters, how about this rule.
If a character gets both less than 1% in chance and less then 5% in want, then the one who nominated it won't be allowed to nominate again for a week. It should help filter out joke noms altogether.
Today's chances and want scores, and Asuka prediction:
DLC characters in vanilla Smash 5 predictions:
Mewtwo: 73.68%
Lucas: 61.54%
Roy: 43.37%
Ryu: 34.45%
All of them if we're rating them together: 29.87%
Nominating:
Concept: no DK character for DLC x5
I actually have yet other things to nominate, but I'll be sticking with the things already outside of the danger zone starting from now.
Dan
Chance: 0% I love the guy, but let's be honest.
Want: 100% I legit would rather have him than Ryu.
Chin
Literally who? Double zeros.
Predictions
Asuka: 0% who even is this? These predictions need to come with a reference so I actually know who I'm voting on.
SSB4 DLC in vanilla SSB5: 50%