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Will Roy and Ryu be removed from this after they are officially confirmed?
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Rate their Chances: the DLC Edition. Day: 192: The final day
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Kalimdori
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Logo12
Smash Lord
Now only if Wolf gets confirmed as well... :/
FinalStarmen
Smash Ace
I feel I need to bring this up before it gets out-of-hand tomorrow.
While there may be a select number of those who readying their rifles on @
Capybara Gaming
for that other day (and somebody already fired a first shot, I am too late in writing this), may I instead suggest a more pacifistic approach and simply move on? This is not the action of a backseat modder, because I am not one. This is the action of a regular viewer (and occasional participant) of a daily activity that would rather not invoke any more explosive arguments within this thread, since there have been enough already. I mean, he wasn't exactly sympathetic, but still. Do we need to further ignite more flames?
We've won, he's lost, let us leave it be. That should be satisfying enough.
While there may be a select number of those who readying their rifles on @
Capybara Gaming
for that other day (and somebody already fired a first shot, I am too late in writing this), may I instead suggest a more pacifistic approach and simply move on? This is not the action of a backseat modder, because I am not one. This is the action of a regular viewer (and occasional participant) of a daily activity that would rather not invoke any more explosive arguments within this thread, since there have been enough already. I mean, he wasn't exactly sympathetic, but still. Do we need to further ignite more flames?We've won, he's lost, let us leave it be. That should be satisfying enough.
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Kalimdori
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Nope. He had it comingI feel I need to bring this up before it gets out-of-hand tomorrow.
While there may be a select number of those who readying their rifles on @
We've won, he's lost, let us leave it be. That should be satisfying enough.
But I won't push it anymore then I already have.
Most Overrated
3. Wolf: I know there's a lot going for Wolf, but I can't shake the feeling that there's still a chance Sakurai might see three returning veterans for DLC as enough. Hopefully I'm wrong, but considering the number of DLC characters that are currently confirmed while still no word on Wolf, I think that 93% is too much.
2. Bandana Dee: Kirby is a franchise that is already well represented, and Sakurai tends to focus on representing the Kirby franchise with games that came before Bandanna Dee became a more prominent character in the series. A new Kirby representative doesn't seem very likely to me.
1. Rayman: Now that Ryu is confirmed to be our new third party DLC character, I don't foresee us getting another third party. Even if Rayman already has some trophy content in Smash 4. If Sakurai had any intent of adding Rayman as a playable character, I think he would have done so for the base game.
Most Underrated
3. Ryu: The fact that he was leaked in the exact same manner as Roy and still managed to get a lesser chance rating is the reason I'm putting him on this list. Also because I can't think of any other genuine character that I feel is underrated enough to fill this slot.
2. Tetra: Considering Wind Waker HD, an official Zelda title, is on the Wii U right now, I can't see why people don't see her as having a legitimate chance as a possible new Zelda rep. She would be a unique character, and ultimately sell pretty well. Hopefully her inclusion in Hyrule Warriors will get people to consider her as an actual contender.
1. Toon Zelda: Same as what I said about Wind Waker HD with Tetra, but Toon Zelda is in the unique position in that she was already a planned character for Brawl, and Sakurai has been known to revisit old ideas. She would be an easier character to develop, and so far all we've seen so far as DLC goes have been easier characters to develop. She's also a very recognizable character, so she wouldn't be a hard sell to the general audience. Both Toon Zelda and Tetra have very underestimated shots as DLC candidates.
Most Accurate
3. King K. Rool: I can't really deny his popularity on the Smash Ballot. From what we have to go off of, it definitely seems as if he's a high contender.
2. Ice Climbers: If there's a possibility of getting them to work on the 3DS, Sakurai could bring them back. I'd say about 30% is a pretty accurate chance score.
1. Roy: A character who was rated nearly at the top, and what do you know...
3. Wolf: I know there's a lot going for Wolf, but I can't shake the feeling that there's still a chance Sakurai might see three returning veterans for DLC as enough. Hopefully I'm wrong, but considering the number of DLC characters that are currently confirmed while still no word on Wolf, I think that 93% is too much.
2. Bandana Dee: Kirby is a franchise that is already well represented, and Sakurai tends to focus on representing the Kirby franchise with games that came before Bandanna Dee became a more prominent character in the series. A new Kirby representative doesn't seem very likely to me.
1. Rayman: Now that Ryu is confirmed to be our new third party DLC character, I don't foresee us getting another third party. Even if Rayman already has some trophy content in Smash 4. If Sakurai had any intent of adding Rayman as a playable character, I think he would have done so for the base game.
Most Underrated
3. Ryu: The fact that he was leaked in the exact same manner as Roy and still managed to get a lesser chance rating is the reason I'm putting him on this list. Also because I can't think of any other genuine character that I feel is underrated enough to fill this slot.
2. Tetra: Considering Wind Waker HD, an official Zelda title, is on the Wii U right now, I can't see why people don't see her as having a legitimate chance as a possible new Zelda rep. She would be a unique character, and ultimately sell pretty well. Hopefully her inclusion in Hyrule Warriors will get people to consider her as an actual contender.
1. Toon Zelda: Same as what I said about Wind Waker HD with Tetra, but Toon Zelda is in the unique position in that she was already a planned character for Brawl, and Sakurai has been known to revisit old ideas. She would be an easier character to develop, and so far all we've seen so far as DLC goes have been easier characters to develop. She's also a very recognizable character, so she wouldn't be a hard sell to the general audience. Both Toon Zelda and Tetra have very underestimated shots as DLC candidates.
Most Accurate
3. King K. Rool: I can't really deny his popularity on the Smash Ballot. From what we have to go off of, it definitely seems as if he's a high contender.
2. Ice Climbers: If there's a possibility of getting them to work on the 3DS, Sakurai could bring them back. I'd say about 30% is a pretty accurate chance score.
1. Roy: A character who was rated nearly at the top, and what do you know...
Double0Groove
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**** the Internet up the ass! This is gonna be a discussion soon, so if you're lucky enough to see this and don't want to be spoiled, then leave the Internet. Right now. Until the 14th.
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Leafeon523
Smash Ace
And the award for most inaccurate rating goes to...
RYU legitimately confirmed.
Overrated:
Wolf??? Maybe might not return...
Ridley for smash 4 DLC, but not for Smash 5
B B Bandit Trio - should be 0% since protagonist needed first and not well known franchise
Underrated:
Rayman
Lip
Bayonetta
MainJPW
M.T.A
I was waiting for this!
FancySmash
Smash Lord
Overrated and Underrated characters
Overrated
1. Wolf
I always found this a bit odd, but Wolf is literally placed higher than Ryu/Roy even with the leak. Yes, I understand that with Lucas coming tomorrow (Santa's Lucas' coming tonight tonight, Santa's Lucas' coming tonight!), Wolf has a really large chance at hitting DLC, but is it really more likely that have been leaked to have a shot at Smash DLC? I think people might just be to hopeful for Wolf. Not saying that he isn't likely, but his chance seems a bit inflated.
2. Dixie Kong
Ah Dixie Kong, originally one of the forbidden seven, and a pretty decent contender for DLC. Or is she? With K. Rool being a possibility with the Smash Ballot, her support seems to have dropped in favor of the big Kroc. I don't think it's fallen by much, but she definitely isn't as big as she used to be, in my opinion anyways. Essentially what I'm trying to say is, I don't think she would be so high on the ballot now that K. Rool has such a great shot.
3. Inklings
As decent a game as Splatoon is, it's still an infant. Heck, Inkling even has costumes for Mii's in the game already. I personally think people saw a new IP come out for Nintendo, and decided "oh yes, must be represented in Smash." Back in Melee, Olimar wasn't put into Smash even though Pikmin was a new IP on the Game Cube was he? This is a similar situation to Splatoon. I feel they are likely for the next Smash Game, but DLC really just seems out for them.
Underrated
1. Spyro
Oh yes, I can't forget Spyro. I wasn't there to rate him that day. I wouldn't have given him exactly the highest scores (couldn't see myself going over 70%), but I certainly feel that he rather got miffed. He received one of the lowest scores we've ever seen in this thread, and quite frankly, it surprises me a bit. He isn't exactly the most popular gaming icon, but considering we still see him today compared to Crash Bandicoot, I feel he would have a bit of a better rating than what we gave him. Really what it came down too was so many people abstaining that day.
2. Paper Mario
I don't feel that this one is exactly too underrated, I just feel that he got the short end of the stick just because he's "another Mario." I wouldn't exactly use that argument unless he would be a clone. For instance, Young Link would be a third Link, as he is a clone of Link just as Toon Link is. While not all the same character, Roy and Lucina are second and third Marth's due to a clone status. If Dr. Mario weren't in this game, I could see Paper Mario getting better scores.
3. Ice Climbers
I've seen people say that they are actually overrated because, surprise surprise, 3DS limitations. Now honestly, this is an argument that's a bit different from what I've seen. People believe that if they couldn't be fixed then, they couldn't be fixed now. That said, I'm not sure if the team's all was put into programming them. We are actually quite in the dark about their status. They were put on "low priority" meaning that the team might have wanted to go back to them and fix them for the game. Heck, they are even said to work on the Wii U. This means that a good chunk of them is actually complete, with only the 3DS holding them back. We don't know if they can be fixed or not, but I'm willing to bet with dedication and the extra time from DLC, they might be doable. That said, they aren't terribly underrated, in fact, they're pretty close to accurate in my opinion. That said, I personally find them a bit more likely than Inkling.
Most Accurate
1. King K. Rool
Ah yes, the one I'm expecting to win the Smash Ballot. And why wouldn't he? King K. Rool has grown so much in support with the release of the Smash Ballot. I wasn't exactly rooting for him at first, but Smash Boards, and my recent revival of interest in Donkey Kong has got me even wishing the Kremling luck in his endeavor for Smash DLC. Keep up the good work King K. Rool, you're very close.
2. Bandana Dee
And here's the idol that I've been rooting for as a DLC newcomer. I have to admit, he does seem a bit low down on the chance list, and I would say that he's underrated, but being honest, this was Bandana Dee in the earlier days of the thread. Since then, he's grown so much, support wise and movements to spread the support. I feel that if he were rated today, he'd be higher, probably more so with the Inkling's getting a costume for Mii's now. You're going places Bandana Dee, you're going places!
3. Shantae
A bit of a stretch, as I'm not regarding her actual position on the ratings. Nope, I'm actually taking into regards about who she outranks. Yep, Shantae (for whatever reason) is considered Indy by today's standards. As such, she could be compared to other Indy characters that we've rated like Quote and Shovel Knight. Now here's were my stance on her accurateness comes in. She is rated above as more likely than Shovel Knight and Quote. I won't take a stance on her being underrated or overrated in actual rating regard, as I don't know her too well, but I feel it appropriate that she outranks the other two Indy characters. You're efforts have been noticed Shantae, do keep striving for Smash.
Overrated
1. Wolf
I always found this a bit odd, but Wolf is literally placed higher than Ryu/Roy even with the leak. Yes, I understand that with Lucas coming tomorrow (
2. Dixie Kong
Ah Dixie Kong, originally one of the forbidden seven, and a pretty decent contender for DLC. Or is she? With K. Rool being a possibility with the Smash Ballot, her support seems to have dropped in favor of the big Kroc. I don't think it's fallen by much, but she definitely isn't as big as she used to be, in my opinion anyways. Essentially what I'm trying to say is, I don't think she would be so high on the ballot now that K. Rool has such a great shot.
3. Inklings
As decent a game as Splatoon is, it's still an infant. Heck, Inkling even has costumes for Mii's in the game already. I personally think people saw a new IP come out for Nintendo, and decided "oh yes, must be represented in Smash." Back in Melee, Olimar wasn't put into Smash even though Pikmin was a new IP on the Game Cube was he? This is a similar situation to Splatoon. I feel they are likely for the next Smash Game, but DLC really just seems out for them.
Underrated
1. Spyro
Oh yes, I can't forget Spyro. I wasn't there to rate him that day. I wouldn't have given him exactly the highest scores (couldn't see myself going over 70%), but I certainly feel that he rather got miffed. He received one of the lowest scores we've ever seen in this thread, and quite frankly, it surprises me a bit. He isn't exactly the most popular gaming icon, but considering we still see him today compared to Crash Bandicoot, I feel he would have a bit of a better rating than what we gave him. Really what it came down too was so many people abstaining that day.
2. Paper Mario
I don't feel that this one is exactly too underrated, I just feel that he got the short end of the stick just because he's "another Mario." I wouldn't exactly use that argument unless he would be a clone. For instance, Young Link would be a third Link, as he is a clone of Link just as Toon Link is. While not all the same character, Roy and Lucina are second and third Marth's due to a clone status. If Dr. Mario weren't in this game, I could see Paper Mario getting better scores.
3. Ice Climbers
I've seen people say that they are actually overrated because, surprise surprise, 3DS limitations. Now honestly, this is an argument that's a bit different from what I've seen. People believe that if they couldn't be fixed then, they couldn't be fixed now. That said, I'm not sure if the team's all was put into programming them. We are actually quite in the dark about their status. They were put on "low priority" meaning that the team might have wanted to go back to them and fix them for the game. Heck, they are even said to work on the Wii U. This means that a good chunk of them is actually complete, with only the 3DS holding them back. We don't know if they can be fixed or not, but I'm willing to bet with dedication and the extra time from DLC, they might be doable. That said, they aren't terribly underrated, in fact, they're pretty close to accurate in my opinion. That said, I personally find them a bit more likely than Inkling.
Most Accurate
1. King K. Rool
Ah yes, the one I'm expecting to win the Smash Ballot. And why wouldn't he? King K. Rool has grown so much in support with the release of the Smash Ballot. I wasn't exactly rooting for him at first, but Smash Boards, and my recent revival of interest in Donkey Kong has got me even wishing the Kremling luck in his endeavor for Smash DLC. Keep up the good work King K. Rool, you're very close.
2. Bandana Dee
And here's the idol that I've been rooting for as a DLC newcomer. I have to admit, he does seem a bit low down on the chance list, and I would say that he's underrated, but being honest, this was Bandana Dee in the earlier days of the thread. Since then, he's grown so much, support wise and movements to spread the support. I feel that if he were rated today, he'd be higher, probably more so with the Inkling's getting a costume for Mii's now. You're going places Bandana Dee, you're going places!
3. Shantae
A bit of a stretch, as I'm not regarding her actual position on the ratings. Nope, I'm actually taking into regards about who she outranks. Yep, Shantae (for whatever reason) is considered Indy by today's standards. As such, she could be compared to other Indy characters that we've rated like Quote and Shovel Knight. Now here's were my stance on her accurateness comes in. She is rated above as more likely than Shovel Knight and Quote. I won't take a stance on her being underrated or overrated in actual rating regard, as I don't know her too well, but I feel it appropriate that she outranks the other two Indy characters. You're efforts have been noticed Shantae, do keep striving for Smash.
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Fire_Voyager
Smash Journeyman
Most Overrated
1.- Bandana Dee
2.- Wolf
3.- Snake
Most Underrated
1.- Simon Belmont
2.- Cap Toad
3.- Geno
Most Accurate
1.- K. Rool
2.- Isaac
3.- Dixie
Boy oh boy with the Leaks... I wanted a surprise, and it is, but I wanted a trailer =P
1.- Bandana Dee
2.- Wolf
3.- Snake
Most Underrated
1.- Simon Belmont
2.- Cap Toad
3.- Geno
Most Accurate
1.- K. Rool
2.- Isaac
3.- Dixie
Boy oh boy with the Leaks... I wanted a surprise, and it is, but I wanted a trailer =P
Sabrewulf238
Smash Hero
Most Overrated
1. Captain Toad
2. Bandana Dee
3. Impa
I've found this trio particularly overrated for a long time now, I still seriously struggle to really understand why they would be such a great addition to the roster. I'm just not getting the WOW factor from them at all.
Most Underrated
1. Excitebiker (In the sense that we haven't even bothered to rate this character yet, they don't even have any nominations)
2. Chorus Kids/Rhythm Heaven Rep (I definitely think people don't give this series enough credit)
3. Ray (Probably more popular in Japan than over here, I think his chances are slightly better than we might think)
Most Accurate
1. King K Rool
2. Isaac
3. Inkling
I can't really argue with the fan support I've seen for King K Rool and I think Isaac is 100% deserving of all the attention he has received. Same goes for the Inklings really, Splatoon is a great game. Only thing standing in their way is that they might be too recent.
1. Captain Toad
2. Bandana Dee
3. Impa
I've found this trio particularly overrated for a long time now, I still seriously struggle to really understand why they would be such a great addition to the roster. I'm just not getting the WOW factor from them at all.
Most Underrated
1. Excitebiker (In the sense that we haven't even bothered to rate this character yet, they don't even have any nominations)
2. Chorus Kids/Rhythm Heaven Rep (I definitely think people don't give this series enough credit)
3. Ray (Probably more popular in Japan than over here, I think his chances are slightly better than we might think)
Most Accurate
1. King K Rool
2. Isaac
3. Inkling
I can't really argue with the fan support I've seen for King K Rool and I think Isaac is 100% deserving of all the attention he has received. Same goes for the Inklings really, Splatoon is a great game. Only thing standing in their way is that they might be too recent.
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4theRECORD
Smash Journeyman
...No comment on the leak.
Most Overrated:Abstain
I took a look at all the other ratings we've done, but I really can't feel that we've overrated a character this time. Most, if not all the characters rated have a pretty low score, and the ones that do have a high score have good reasoning behind them. The only one that I might feel overrated was Inkling...but, eh.
Most Underrated:
1) Chibi-robo: I originally thought under 30% was a pretty good score for the robot, but then I saw that Bandana Dee had about another 5% over him. I don't think Dee has more chance than Chibi, especially with Chibi getting both a new game and amiibo coming soon. Not that Dee dosen't deserve his original score, but Chibi deserves a bit more by that standard.
2) Impa: Only by a tiny bit. I think that 25%, while a good score on it's own, might be a bit small for the one of the most reoccuring characters of the Zelda franchise. Nintendo (and Koei to an extent) seem to be interested in exploring the potential behind this woman. I'd say another 10% added would be close to her actual score.
3) Ray: ...Maaaaybe a bit of bias is involved but I think that Ray deserves at least 20%. But this is main just a presonal feeling of mine, so I put it in third.
Most Accurate:
Issac: Isaac is in a really queer state, on one side you have a franchise that had much of its repping cut in Sm4sh, yet songs have been added in My Music, and the character itself is fairly popular overall. It could go either way, thus I think this is a very accurate prediction.
Most Overrated:Abstain
I took a look at all the other ratings we've done, but I really can't feel that we've overrated a character this time. Most, if not all the characters rated have a pretty low score, and the ones that do have a high score have good reasoning behind them. The only one that I might feel overrated was Inkling...but, eh.
Most Underrated:
1) Chibi-robo: I originally thought under 30% was a pretty good score for the robot, but then I saw that Bandana Dee had about another 5% over him. I don't think Dee has more chance than Chibi, especially with Chibi getting both a new game and amiibo coming soon. Not that Dee dosen't deserve his original score, but Chibi deserves a bit more by that standard.
2) Impa: Only by a tiny bit. I think that 25%, while a good score on it's own, might be a bit small for the one of the most reoccuring characters of the Zelda franchise. Nintendo (and Koei to an extent) seem to be interested in exploring the potential behind this woman. I'd say another 10% added would be close to her actual score.
3) Ray: ...Maaaaybe a bit of bias is involved but I think that Ray deserves at least 20%. But this is main just a presonal feeling of mine, so I put it in third.
Most Accurate:
Issac: Isaac is in a really queer state, on one side you have a franchise that had much of its repping cut in Sm4sh, yet songs have been added in My Music, and the character itself is fairly popular overall. It could go either way, thus I think this is a very accurate prediction.
Capybara Gaming
Just Vibing
It's still a leak. A well done, if fake leak, and much harder to prove wrong, but I will wait for official confirmation.
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Most Overrated
This was honestly very, very hard... I had a lot of choices for this one. Honestly, I do think that we have been a bit too generous with our ratings... and I think a lot of characters are evident of this. So, my top 3 are:
1. Ice Climbers: They get my top spot because their problems are mountains, not molehills. 8 Player Smash and 3DS limitations are very critical problems. Ballot support is a plus, but I think they have too much in their way.
2. Snake: I think Konami is the biggest issue right now. They are going mobile and they are going to fire Kojima when MGSV is all done. Not to mention that his association with Nintendo is pretty limited, which doesn't help at all when the Wii U is in a bad state.
3. Young Link: Between this and Bayonetta, I find that Young Link to be more offensive. With the least amount of Ballot support of any veteran and already essentially being replaced by Toon Link, Young Link is just too irrelevant for Smash and I think he deserves a score below 10%.
Dishonorable mentions go to Bayonetta and Banjo.
Most Underrated
My opinions for this one might be controversial, but hear me out.
1. Ryu: Yes, he is confirmed now. Why do I think he is underrated? Roy and Ryu have something that Wolf doesn't have: evidence of their inclusion. Before the 1.0.8 update, Roy and Ryu had audio clips, something that the most requested character, Wolf, doesn't have. As a result, I think that Roy and Ryu should have a higher chance than Wolf, but it's too late now.
2. Roy: Same as Ryu.
3. Inklings: Apparently, there is a trophy of them in the newest patch. The reason why I consider them underrated is because Splatoon did pretty well in sales all things considered, Nintendo has been promoting the game, and they have a decent amount of Ballot support. I think that their Ballot support could prevail so that they could get much more than just costumes and a trophy.
Most Accurate
I only have one character.
B. B. Bandit Trio: These characters aren't the protagonists and have no Ballot support. We have them a deserving low score. As such, their score is the most accurate.
Most Overrated
This was honestly very, very hard... I had a lot of choices for this one. Honestly, I do think that we have been a bit too generous with our ratings... and I think a lot of characters are evident of this. So, my top 3 are:
1. Ice Climbers: They get my top spot because their problems are mountains, not molehills. 8 Player Smash and 3DS limitations are very critical problems. Ballot support is a plus, but I think they have too much in their way.
2. Snake: I think Konami is the biggest issue right now. They are going mobile and they are going to fire Kojima when MGSV is all done. Not to mention that his association with Nintendo is pretty limited, which doesn't help at all when the Wii U is in a bad state.
3. Young Link: Between this and Bayonetta, I find that Young Link to be more offensive. With the least amount of Ballot support of any veteran and already essentially being replaced by Toon Link, Young Link is just too irrelevant for Smash and I think he deserves a score below 10%.
Dishonorable mentions go to Bayonetta and Banjo.
Most Underrated
My opinions for this one might be controversial, but hear me out.
1. Ryu: Yes, he is confirmed now. Why do I think he is underrated? Roy and Ryu have something that Wolf doesn't have: evidence of their inclusion. Before the 1.0.8 update, Roy and Ryu had audio clips, something that the most requested character, Wolf, doesn't have. As a result, I think that Roy and Ryu should have a higher chance than Wolf, but it's too late now.
2. Roy: Same as Ryu.
3. Inklings: Apparently, there is a trophy of them in the newest patch. The reason why I consider them underrated is because Splatoon did pretty well in sales all things considered, Nintendo has been promoting the game, and they have a decent amount of Ballot support. I think that their Ballot support could prevail so that they could get much more than just costumes and a trophy.
Most Accurate
I only have one character.
B. B. Bandit Trio: These characters aren't the protagonists and have no Ballot support. We have them a deserving low score. As such, their score is the most accurate.
Ryu's and Roy's images were data mined. That video looks way too legit to fake in my eyes. The quality is too good.
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Laniv
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Most Overrated: Abstain
Most Underrated:
1. Chorus Kids
2. Impa
3. Wonder Red
Most Accurate: B.B. Bandit Trio
I'm gonna have to go with this. Most of the characters with high scores are in the realm of possibility.
Most Underrated:
1. Chorus Kids
2. Impa
3. Wonder Red
Most Accurate: B.B. Bandit Trio
Capybara Gaming
Just Vibing
Alright, after seeing it a few more times, and Roy's. I give up.
And in all honesty....they both look pretty neat. Though I still think Ryu shouldn't be in, I'll surely be getting both and their respective amiibos.
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Most Overrated
1. Bayonetta
Seriously? A 10% is such a stratch. She still has all the problems of having only one Nintendo exclusive game plus her M rated factors.
2. Snake
Kojima left Konami and Konami doesn't seem to care about it's franchises. Plus, they're not begging Sakurai to add Snake.
3. Ice Climbers
3DS Limitations.
Most Underrated
1. Ninten
He should definitely be higher than Geno, Shovel Knight, Ridley, etc.
2. Bandana Dee
I know he's in the Top 10, but a 35% is way too low.
3. Tetra
Besides Impa, she's the most likely Zelda newcomer, so she should be higher than what she is.
Most Accurate
1. Wolf
2. King K. Rool
3. B.B. Bandit Trio
1. Bayonetta
Seriously? A 10% is such a stratch. She still has all the problems of having only one Nintendo exclusive game plus her M rated factors.
2. Snake
Kojima left Konami and Konami doesn't seem to care about it's franchises. Plus, they're not begging Sakurai to add Snake.
3. Ice Climbers
3DS Limitations.
Most Underrated
1. Ninten
He should definitely be higher than Geno, Shovel Knight, Ridley, etc.
2. Bandana Dee
I know he's in the Top 10, but a 35% is way too low.
3. Tetra
Besides Impa, she's the most likely Zelda newcomer, so she should be higher than what she is.
Most Accurate
1. Wolf
2. King K. Rool
3. B.B. Bandit Trio
Aetheri
W/E happens don't panic...
How much more confirmation do you need than in game models? this isn't some video editing like the Rayman leak this requires a hell of a lot of work just to make the models and animations not to mention completely redesigning Roy from his other iterations...
Capybara Gaming
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Yet another person who was originally in denial had to be tyrannosaurus rekt. I don't know whether it's too funny or too cruel.
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I really shouldn't be saying this, being a mod, but it's poetic justice. Just another reminder that you should never be too confident in the world of speculation.
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*cough*Prick*cough*I really shouldn't be saying this, being a mod, but it's poetic justice. Just another reminder that you should never be too confident in the world of speculation.
Oh, I'm sorry, had a bit of a cough today.
Also this:
I feel I need to bring this up before it gets out-of-hand tomorrow.
While there may be a select number of those who readying their rifles on @
We've won, he's lost, let us leave it be. That should be satisfying enough.
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Most Overrated:
1. Banjo-Kazooie
2. Ridley
3. Isaac
Most Underrated:
1. Chorus Kids
2. Pretty much every veteran who doesn't have any high amount of support.
Honestly I can't think of anyone else who's underrated really, one is a character data-mined by people with lots of evidence and supporting in their favor in the inclusion, the other being Squirtle, Ivysaur, Pichu, and Young Link; these guys being veterans gives them the bigger benefit than most people think, you guys know that Sakurai hates cutting characters even though happens to be a minor character. Saying they have 0% chance is pretty absurd given that they are already established characters in Smash who have existing fans who want to see them back.
Sakurai knows they have a low amount of fans, so I don't think the ballot will help them, but rather pre-ballot wise will help them get in, and I think it has a good chance of happening based on his statements from the past, he has the time to bring everyone back with the base game being finished already. Though I can totally get Ice Climbers though, they might be the only ones who don't come back, but then there comes the New 3DS possibilities and how he might go technical with his words.
I guess you could say Professor Layton is a bit underrated, a lot of people didn't know who the guy was when we were rating them and iconic arguments were still being spouted out. But ehh.
1. Banjo-Kazooie
2. Ridley
3. Isaac
Most Underrated:
1. Chorus Kids
2. Pretty much every veteran who doesn't have any high amount of support.
Honestly I can't think of anyone else who's underrated really, one is a character data-mined by people with lots of evidence and supporting in their favor in the inclusion, the other being Squirtle, Ivysaur, Pichu, and Young Link; these guys being veterans gives them the bigger benefit than most people think, you guys know that Sakurai hates cutting characters even though happens to be a minor character. Saying they have 0% chance is pretty absurd given that they are already established characters in Smash who have existing fans who want to see them back.
Sakurai knows they have a low amount of fans, so I don't think the ballot will help them, but rather pre-ballot wise will help them get in, and I think it has a good chance of happening based on his statements from the past, he has the time to bring everyone back with the base game being finished already. Though I can totally get Ice Climbers though, they might be the only ones who don't come back, but then there comes the New 3DS possibilities and how he might go technical with his words.
I guess you could say Professor Layton is a bit underrated, a lot of people didn't know who the guy was when we were rating them and iconic arguments were still being spouted out. But ehh.
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Most overrated:
1: Inkling
2: Rayman
3: Krystal
I cannot see the Inklings make the game as a playable character anymore because of the Mii costume. It basically turns the Mii into an Inkling, and no other costume does this as of yet. Yes, they are doing well on the ballot but I'm doubting they will include the Inklings this time, and rather just focus on heavily popular missed out characters, as King K.Rool, Isaac, Dixie, ect. Inkling seems a definiate lock for Smash 5 however.
I also don't see how Rayman has a shot at all. And why he's so highly ranked. If any third party characters will make it in, am thinking that Shantae or hell, even Banjo-Kazooie have way better chances.
Krystal is a character I really like, and would love to see her making it in. But I doubt she'll be chosen unless she's heavily significant to StarFox Wii U's plot. Wolf seems like the most obvious StarFox character, with him not only being the most popular left out veteran, but being the most popular character overall. And I don't think StarFox, like Donkey Kong Country should warrant 2 DLC characters. 3 is a perfectly fine number for StarFox. Always was, and still is.
Most underrated:
1: Impa
2: Ice Climbers
3: Dixie Kong
Impa has a lot to work with, and is the only true Big Name in the Zelda franchise left to include as a playable character. With so many semi-clone DLC characters, I find it hard to see Sakurai NOT include a several more semi-clones to buff the roster, make money, and please fans. Lucas, Roy and Ryu seem to be finished, so that means that developing a semi-clone character isn't as hard work as unique characters, as Mewtwo and Ryu. Ryu and Roy being chosen as DLC outside of the ballot is a good sign for Impa to, as she isn't everyone's nr.1 most wanted, but she's definitely a wanted character all around. She's popular, just not the MOST popular. Same with Dixie Kong. I therefore think that Impa has great chances.
Ice Climbers are a 2 time veteran character combo who had a full functioning moveset. I doubt that Sakurai would just toss them aside because of this all. No, am no Ice Climber fan. In fact, I wanted them out. But now that chain grabs have been removed completely, I think the ****** duo should have a shot again.
Dixie Kong is underrated for quite the same reasons as Impa, and the so-called stigma that K.Rool would somehow stop her from being in. I really hate to hear that, moreso than anything else currently. Well, maybe that there are some people claiming DKC shouldn't have another character. Ok. She should've been on the vanilla roster, much like Impa. Yet I think Sakurai pushed semi-clone characters as lower priority. Which shouldn't mean Dixie won't get in. She's obviously popular, she could be picked outside of the ballot. And she should. Again with Impa's case, she's not many people's absolute #1 pick, but she's definitely popular and would be very well accepted in the community.
1: Inkling
2: Rayman
3: Krystal
I cannot see the Inklings make the game as a playable character anymore because of the Mii costume. It basically turns the Mii into an Inkling, and no other costume does this as of yet. Yes, they are doing well on the ballot but I'm doubting they will include the Inklings this time, and rather just focus on heavily popular missed out characters, as King K.Rool, Isaac, Dixie, ect. Inkling seems a definiate lock for Smash 5 however.
I also don't see how Rayman has a shot at all. And why he's so highly ranked. If any third party characters will make it in, am thinking that Shantae or hell, even Banjo-Kazooie have way better chances.
Krystal is a character I really like, and would love to see her making it in. But I doubt she'll be chosen unless she's heavily significant to StarFox Wii U's plot. Wolf seems like the most obvious StarFox character, with him not only being the most popular left out veteran, but being the most popular character overall. And I don't think StarFox, like Donkey Kong Country should warrant 2 DLC characters. 3 is a perfectly fine number for StarFox. Always was, and still is.
Most underrated:
1: Impa
2: Ice Climbers
3: Dixie Kong
Impa has a lot to work with, and is the only true Big Name in the Zelda franchise left to include as a playable character. With so many semi-clone DLC characters, I find it hard to see Sakurai NOT include a several more semi-clones to buff the roster, make money, and please fans. Lucas, Roy and Ryu seem to be finished, so that means that developing a semi-clone character isn't as hard work as unique characters, as Mewtwo and Ryu. Ryu and Roy being chosen as DLC outside of the ballot is a good sign for Impa to, as she isn't everyone's nr.1 most wanted, but she's definitely a wanted character all around. She's popular, just not the MOST popular. Same with Dixie Kong. I therefore think that Impa has great chances.
Ice Climbers are a 2 time veteran character combo who had a full functioning moveset. I doubt that Sakurai would just toss them aside because of this all. No, am no Ice Climber fan. In fact, I wanted them out. But now that chain grabs have been removed completely, I think the ****** duo should have a shot again.
Dixie Kong is underrated for quite the same reasons as Impa, and the so-called stigma that K.Rool would somehow stop her from being in. I really hate to hear that, moreso than anything else currently. Well, maybe that there are some people claiming DKC shouldn't have another character. Ok. She should've been on the vanilla roster, much like Impa. Yet I think Sakurai pushed semi-clone characters as lower priority. Which shouldn't mean Dixie won't get in. She's obviously popular, she could be picked outside of the ballot. And she should. Again with Impa's case, she's not many people's absolute #1 pick, but she's definitely popular and would be very well accepted in the community.
Capybara Gaming
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Most Overrated:
Ridley
Most Underrated: Rhythm Heaven characters. Really don't have all that much to say about it.
Ridley
Most Underrated: Rhythm Heaven characters. Really don't have all that much to say about it.
BluePikmin11
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I don't think Impa has gotten to be a big name Zelda character yet, she's getting more popular, but not at the point of being a recognizable huge Zelda icon yet. That takes years to happen.
Were pretty alike for the most part. :L
WeirdChillFever
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So first parties need to be a recognizable huge icon but third parties can just walk in because Sakurai is a liar?
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BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
Not saying she needs to be an icon, but saying she's a big name in the Zelda games is inaccurate.
A Distant Demon
Finale
what 3rd parties we have arent icons
Pac man-doesnt need to be said
Sonic- huge rival and one of the biggest gaming characters ever even if he has fallen form grace.
Ryu- THE fighting game character
mega man- another huge gaming character. maybe not sonic's level but still a huge icon.
Snake- stealth master. still a highly active charcgter since his inception and, like ryu, has stayed in the front of the market.
every 3rd party we have is a "huge recognizable icon" :/
also this
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WeirdChillFever
Smash Hero
So 7% for the villain of one of the biggest Kirby games of the last few years is "overrated"?
Dang I know BDee is likely but he has no monopoly on the slots.
Impa is like Bandana Dee, both series already have their main cast represented, but if we got another they'd probably be next in line. The difference is I imagine Zelda would draw from its b-tier before Kirby would.
Also Hyrule Warriors did pretty darn well and Impa was largely at the forefront of that game, so after both that and Skyward Sword she's definitely pretty recognizable currently.
Also Hyrule Warriors did pretty darn well and Impa was largely at the forefront of that game, so after both that and Skyward Sword she's definitely pretty recognizable currently.