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The concept of α stages is similar to Ω stages, all stages have a form that is styled in the likeness of Battlefield.I thought Vivian was your waifu
Trust me I know how you feel, To be honest its an accomplishment I was able to single handedly rate a character up, it only took me 51 days, though I didn't rate everyday. Though what's alpha stages?
or ), and most people really don't want three Links.
Star power...
No it isn't, he may not have been planned in Brawl, but doesn't mean there's no other way Sakurai can consider him, look at the notable MM3D (that's still being advertised in commercials) and how Sakurai looks at upcoming games to start considering characters, that should really have Sakurai consider the idea of Young Link again.
Rating should represent rater's personal opinion about character's chances. You shouldn't persuade people to change their ratings because of your counterarguments.
there is a difference between forcing someone to change opinions and maybe making them think a little differently. Somethimes a 2nd opinion can change a lot.
on the base roster because he was being worked on already as a costume and got promoted, out as DLC that was in mind since fairly early development, being the second high-demand Melee cut and has been leaked to be on the way, and then the two clones that the vast majority of the Smash fanbase never asked to return. Of the 6 cuts from Brawl, is confirmed to DLC, many people consider to be a lock, & who wallow in middling support, who were Hand-Picked by Sakurai but faced technical limitations in main game development and fans wonder if/how the team will handle this, and who is the most popular cut but faces massive issues of his company and creator.& , 1) The data from Melee is no longer viable to import and build off of so Melee cut veterans have to be built up from Scratch and 2) that he hates alienating fans of a character by changing how they really play. He may very well see that was the successor to which would make his hopes incredibly grim, but it also brings me to my next point. the father of gaming going down into a far simpler model and having a heavy wind up, it doesn't make sense for such a low-demand veteran, clone or no, to get the work by Sakurai's team to have 5 models (Young, Deku, Goron, Zora, Fierce Diety) at this point of DLC work when it would significantly effect how the character plays and we saw the only change in 's moveset being tweaks to hitboxes and animations but with no new moves (barring final smash) and nobody cited any major changes in by his trailer. Unless is ocnfirmed to have a significantly changed moveset, don't hold your breath on this idea. Our big changes to character movesets have been 's F.L.U.D.D., the overhaul given to & , and - having two special moves changed. When hasn't gotten an overhaul due to fan demand, I just can't see why Young Link would. is a more differentiated version of with a different name due to the series itself taking a shift to where Child-like Links used the "Toon" design as a base.
I didn't say BluePikmin11 was trying to force others to change opinions. I'm sure he/she had some good counterarguments, but I think he/she should just let other people rate how their feel instead of trying to change their opinions.
Personal arguments behind a rating could very well be countered by that post.
Yes, I was probably too harsh in my post. Counterarguments can change opinions. I'm sorry if I offended someone.
). Long story short, Young Link has absolutely nothing going for him. 0% Chance
You may think you've provided satisfactory counterarguments, but why do think people will necessarily agree to the points you've stated?
Are you being serious?
Devil's Advocate. Roy is one of the most popular characters pre and post ballot.png/revision/latest?cb=20130730082353)
This needs a source because I don't remember Sakurai outright stating this.
Given with the recently released game and the free time he's been given with DLC, he could likely and easily take some inspiration from the game to use masks that act as temporary transform moves like Kirby's Stone attack, Pac-Man turning into his pizza shape form, and Sonic turning into his ball form, there are a load of examples of this. His non-special move attacks would likely remain the same, but with new moves to give him a new flavor that doesn't feel exactly like Toon Link's play style.
He'd be easier with the fact that he already has an established moveset. :L
He's a clone! The fanbases HATE clones they will react badly and salt will be poured!
There is no precedent sure, but his moveset and play style feels so similar to Toon Link unlike Pichu and many other clones, that it would kinda make sense to change a few moves so he can least have a differentiated play style. Again refer to the moveset argument above to see how it's not a huge overhaul.
Is this the only particular argument that people are angry about?
Getting considered gives them a bigger chance than you think. If he's popular at the ballot, the character will get considered. If there a multitude of factors such as being a veteran or having a new game coming out, the character will likely get considered. It won't help them get a 100% chance, but it at least gives them a shot. It's that simple.
Sigh, it's not that Sakurai is a troll or anything, but it's the fact that Sakurai brings out a large diversity of characters that range from unrequested to requested that I have to give a fair chance to some characters, one moment you rate an unpopular character like Dr. Mario a low 1% the next few months, he gets leaked and confirmed for Smash. This is why I stay fair to every character I rate and not just give a low rating because someone is unpopular.
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Still the majority got over Dark Pit's inclusion eventually, I know there's still toxicity, but it's more minimal than it was before.
Roy had a heavy amount of support and has proof of being planned to be in Brawl. His point was that there was not going to be much demand in the ballot, partially due to how similar Veteran Young Link is as a clone of Link and relative statistics to Toon Link.
An moveset of out-dated model, animations, and data that'd have to be built from the ground up so he is no "easy clone."
It's an overhaul that is above the level that we've ever seen for a veteran. Your argument is that "His play style is so similar to Toon Link, he'd need to have move changed." Most people argue "His play is so similar to Toon Link, there's no reason for him to be brought back."
Doc, Lucy, and DP were already done and then promoted as poorly-recieved gifts from the data already there.He's a clone! The fanbases HATE clones they will react badly and salt will be poured!
This is a franchise that Sakurai has added similar characters on for each installment he made that he made on his spare time so he can increase play-time for many players. Sure, Dark Pit and Dr. Mario had gotten negative reception at first, but people got over it in days once the streams of Smash 3DS started rolling when all the characters got unlocked. The same will go for Young Link, people will hate it, but get over it eventually and buy him anyway to complete their rosters or not buy him at all if they don't like his inclusion. Sakurai wouldn't really care if the community reacted badly to it, his main focus would bringing him back so Young Link fans can be happy. @
Do you have any evidence that Young Link HAS been considered? Your evidence, as I've seen, has been "He's a veteran. His games got remade. He had to have been considered."
I highlighted the "clone of someone who has a clone" -part.
in brawl " sattus for me... 
Nuh man, I was responding to the "clone of clone" part.
I'm not denying that. But I really don't think being considered = good chance. Maybe it's your wording... because anyone reading your post would expect a 50% chance from you.
Thing is, Dr. Mario and Dark Pit were packaged with the main game. People didn't have a choice to not have them.
That honestly has very little to do with the main point I was making in my statement.
But it's not a 50% chance is it.
Yeah, but Ryu was the least requested out of all of them before he was leaked.
It had to with moveset changing and how you think a moveset change doesn't work, that's the reason why I quoted you.
Luigi and Doctor Mario have their own gameplay niches they fill. Young Link and Toon Link fill the exact same niche.
By star power, he does not really have much of a fan base that he reaches out towards. The divide between the more realistic, older Links and the more chibi younger Links is well documented. However, Young Link doesn't have a new fan base to appeal to. He also doesn't really have that pop and wow factor that makes one go "OMG must buy". There isn't much to draw people in. Link already is a composite of many Links throughout history, and Toon picks up the scraps. Many Melee players either dislike him or have moved on to Toon Link. Changing him would allinate older players, so what is he appealing to?
My internet is being really slow, so sorry for any confusion that this has caused.
