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ShrekItRalph

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Akari:
Chance 2.5%
Want: 5%
Meh

ED representation:
Chance: 10%
Want: 50%
I don't think this even got any representation in Brawl.

John Raimi .40%
Legendary Heropon Riki 6.5%


Playable Inkling x5
I don't think my last vote was added but I don't know how I could check... so oh well.
 
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Abstain for all
I don't care about any of these guys being rated right now I'm just here for predictions and nominations

John Raimi - 0%
uh
no
The greatest, bestest, Heroponest nopon there ever was - 2.45%
While he is the absolute best thing to happen to existence, there are other things that are greater.

Metal Face (Boss) x5
 
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Akari Hayami and Interactive Eternal Darkness Representation have been added to the Directory.

I will rate tomorrow... or in a few hours depending on your time zone!
Since the Legendary Heropon Riki is getting his chance tomorrow... I dunno who to nominate. I'll put my faith in the Bowsers again tomorrow.
Oh yeah, and Ganondorf looks incredible in Hyrule Warriors! Here's a song for the King of Evil:

GROOSE ISN'T LOOSE IN HYRULE WARRIORS, BUT HE IS HERE!
I suppose you'll get your chance another day...
 
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Akari

Chance: 2%
Want: 0%

Eternal Darkness representation

Chance: 3%
Want: 20%

Nomination

Excitebiker x1
Mother 3 content without Lucas x2
Playable Bosses x2
 

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This will probably be one of my shortest ratings yet. Abstaining from Akari.

Interactive Eternal Darkness Representation - 15%

The game is rather old now, but it was quite successful. The chance that it'll get something noteworthy in this game is there, it's just a small one.

Want - 50%

Never played the game myself so I can't say I'd like to see anything out of it in Smash 4.

Outset Toon Link x5
 

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Akari
Chance - 0.5%
Doubt it

Want - 0%
Nope

Eternal Darkness
Chance - 6%
Possible, the franchise is still kind of alive I think? Or maybe I'm thinking of the wrong one? IDK

Want - 50%
I wouldn't mind seeing more content from unrepresented games, but I'm incredibly indifferent about this one

Predictions
Volleyball - 1.54%
We don't even have Shulk yet ...

John Raimi - 0.6%
Lol. He possesses anything he wants! ... But only if the game wants him to for the purposes of controlled story-telling. Exciting.

Nominations
x5 Tag Team Battles
 

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Akari Hayami: Chances 5%

Appearances: 1080, 1080: Avalanche, Wave Race Blue Storm
I think from interviews and actions, Sakurai has indicated a new openness in this game to non-combat characters. I believe that 1080, despite being inactive for the wii generation, would be a prime choice for a non-combat character for a few reasons. And Akari Hayami would be the best choice as a rep in that case.

First, the original game was developed by Nintendo's famous EAD team. Secondly, like many other series represented in Smash, it also has input from the legendary Shigeru Miyamoto in its first game. Miyamoto served as the game's producer. The list of characters worked on by Miyamoto is vast: Mario, Link, Fox, Captain Falcon, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Kirby, Captain Olimar, etc. When you consider the fact that both two retro characters had Miyamoto for their first games: Ice Climbers and Pit, you can see a trend in Smash. Thirdly, the game is a classic, well received by both Nintendo's audience and critics. It won awards the year it came out. She would also serve as a representative for Nintendo's sports franchises, as well possibly representing both the Wave Race and 1080 series. The Wave Race series has also been very important to Nintendo history. It was a GC launch title in the form of Blue Storm. For Wave Race, it was also developed by Nintendo EAD team and produced by Shigeru Miyamoto for both its original GB title, the N64 sequel, and Blue Storm. Both the Wave Race and 1080 series received trophies in Melee, and 1080 received music in Brawl. Akari Hayami herself appeared as a sticker in Brawl, along with some others.

If you look at sales as a metric, the 1080 series itself stands up pretty well in comparison to the other series. Wave Race also stands up well. But if you combine them together (because of their shared continuity), then they rank above just about every other series not currently represented (aside from Duck Hunt and the Excite Racing series).
3.6 million - Wave Race
>2.0 million - 1080 Snowboarding
2 + 3.6 = approximately 5.6 million sales for both series
4 surrounding series:
28.3 million - Duck Hunt (was part of a bundle though)
6.2 million - Excite racing games
3.6 million - Golden Sun
3.1 million - Pilotwings

Sales are important because they are the greatest popularity poll you can find. They are basically show that people are willing to make an economic decision for a series or character. Sakurai mentioned reviving bring back old characters. A decade is practically a lifetime in gaming. If you remove the concept of retro, a 1080 or Wave Race character like Akari Hayami could easily fit in Sakurai's description of reviving a character.

Why her, over other snowboarders/wave racers? The simple fact she appears in both franchises is enough. Kensuke Kimachi maybe the main guy in 1080, but he only appears in that series. Having her would allow representation of both series, and a moveset reflecting that. She is also the sister of Ryota Hayami, the main protagonist of the Wave Race series. That gives her the advantage over Ricky Winterborn and Rob Haywood. Adding another female to case would be a positive, and I think her design would be the most dynamic of the bunch. And she appeared as a sticker in Brawl, in both her Wave Race and 1080 forms! No other character received that treatment.

She would truly be a WTF character.

Want: 100%
I love the original 1080 and bought it as soon as it came out for the Virtual Console. I think Wave Race: Blue Storm was an amazing game as well, and really solified the different type of game you could play the GC. I think the fact that many didnt even recognize Akari Hayami as a 1080 character rather than a Wave Racer means that both series should get a second look from Nintendo.

Eternal Representation:
Chances: 5%
I don't think ED fits Smash's style and its from a second party that Nintendo would prefer not talk about or work with.
Want: 100%
That game was so awesome. Imagine a stage with a Sanity Meter!

Predictions:
Legendary Heropon Riki: 2.73%
Geist Person: .93%

Nominations:
Phoenix Wright Trophy x5

In addition, she was included as a character in the third installment of the Wave Race franchise, and she shares her last name with a longtime racer of that franchise, Ryota Hayami. I unfortunately have no idea if they're actually related.
Akari Hayami and Ryota Hayami are brother and sister.
 
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Burigu

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Eternal Darkness
Chance - 6%
Possible, the franchise is still kind of alive I think? Or maybe I'm thinking of the wrong one? IDK
I am not sure what game you are thinking Eternal Darkness is a stand alone game for the GC released in 2002 maybe you are thinking about Fatal Frame?

Eternal Darkness
Chance, set and Want: 0% great game but not happening the game was only published by Nintendo.

Girl from dead racing franchises:
Chance and Want: 0%
 
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Akari Likelihood: 1%
Want: 40%

ED Representation Likelihood: 5%
Want: 50%

Karate Joe x5
 
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I'm going to have to abstain from the chances of both of these.

I also have to abstain from the first prediction. But in the famous words of @Hades the Magnificent "Oh look, who cares?" (This diserves to be a more well known line than "to be or not to be" imho.)
Riki the Legendary Hero: 3.45% He may not have very high chances, but who cares? I am happy happy that we are going to rate him!

x5 Excitebiker Rerate
 
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Akari Hayami

Chance: 5%

I never viewed Wave Race and 1080 Snowboarding as franchises that would get representation in Smash besides stages, trophies, stickers, and music. Plus, neither of those IPs have gotten any attention from Nintendo in over a decade aside from Virtual Console ports. I chose not to give a 0% rating because this is Sakurai we're talking about.

Want: 1080% 100%

I have fond memories of 1080 Avalanche, and I almost always played as Akari for some odd reason.


Eternal Darkness Representation

Chance: 2%

Eternal Darkness is a forgotten one-off IP that, since its release, has only been listed in Brawl's Chronicle page. Also, I checked, and Nintendo owns the property.


Want: 100%

I agree with @ jaytalks jaytalks on this one.
 
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Today's just odd enough that I feel compelled to rate.

Akari Hayami - 1%
This would be a truly bizarre pick for a playable Smash character, but thanks to being able to potentially rep not one but two long-dead Nintendo franchises, she's not quite impossible. Talk about value! Already being noted in Smash for both franchises helps distinguish her as a potential choice, even if it's only as a couple stickers, and while I think she'd need the momentum of a Wave Race or 1080 revival to give her any realistic chance, Sakurai's known for his surprising character picks. Very interesting nomination right here!
Want - 50% - I have no attachment to her, but I can't say I'm opposed to Nintendo racing games getting more representation.

Interactive Eternal Darkness Representation - 1%
That one point is entirely because Groose noted that music counts, and while I don't recall any notable tracks from the game, it seems like an innocent enough way to commemorate the game. Beyond that, Eternal Darkness is so gratuitously M-rated that even alluding to it via a stage or AT seems extremely out of character for Smash. Considering Brawl doesn't even have a sticker from it, I'd be surprised if we got even that much in SSB4.
Want - 0% - I watched a playthrough of the game that happened one week in my dorm's common room. It was interesting, to be sure, but there's no way any of it should be in Smash, nor was it good enough for me to want it to somehow sneak in anyway.
 

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Akari ah whatever: Double Zeroes

Dark ness forever rep something:
8% Chance
0% want

Noms: Mega Mewtwo Y

Predictions:
Some dude named Geist: 0.3%
Legendary but ain't happening fanboy kawaii furred thing: 1.2%
 

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Hakari Ayami chances: 0 % and want: abstain
When I see the fate of characters like Takamaru, Saki Amamiya or Prince of Sablé I can't imagine Sakurai include a 1080° Snowboarding or Wave Race character at all. The worst part is that the series doesn't have a mascot, so even if Sakurai wants to add one Hakari isn't really more likely than any other character from Wave Race (unless I'm wrong, if it's the case let me know, but according to my researches I didn't find any mascot for the franchise). I think than it's pretty safe to assume than if we get a character from 1080° Snowboard or Wave Race he or she will be an assist trophy at best. Okay, if she's eventually confirmed as playable... well, I'm really dumb, but I don't think it's worth giving more than 0 %. And for want... I have no connection with the franchise, so I don't care at all.

Eternal Darkness representation chances: 40 20 % and want: abstain
Okay, I just learned today than Eternal Darkness is not a third-party game :facepalm: if I known than it was from a Nintendo franchise I would give a higher chance score to my prediction yesterday. It's a Nintendo universe and BTW deserves to be represented in Smash Bros. Because the franchise only has one pre-Brawl game a playable character from the game is pretty much impossible IMO, and a stage seems unlikely. An assist trophy, or just a trophy, on the other hand, seems not that unlikely, given Sakurai's tendency to reveal assist trophies for characters from forgotten franchises like, said above, Takamaru, Prince of Sablé, or the Brawl veteran AT Saki Amamiya. So if a stage or character is highly unlikely, an AT or just a trophy is not that unlikely IMO. Again for want, I don't have any connection with the franchise, so I abstain.

Edit: oh, just a trophy doesn't count? In this case let me change my chance rate from 40 to 20 %.

Predictions:
Geist: 1,71 %
Riki: 4,41 %

Nominating:
Playable newcommer: Magikarp x5
Edit: I just realized that the actual spelling is "newcomer", not "newcommer" :facepalm:

I made this epic fake screen KO pic that should be in the OP the day when we're rating Magikarp:

 
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Abstain from both.

I don't normally do nominations, but I've got an idea.

x5 Ice Climbers
 

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Akari Hayami: 0%
Nope. Don't see characters from these long dead franchises, ad they don't have the retro card either.

Want: 30%
Couldn't care less.

Eternal Darkness representation (more than trophy): 50%
I'd say it's possible. With all the obscure old games getting ATs, I suppose an Alexandra Roivas AT is fairly likely.

Want: 50%
More representation is always good. But I have no attachment to the franchise.
 

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Abstaining from both.

X5 Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf!
Abstain for all
I don't care about any of these guys being rated right now I'm just here for predictions and nominations

John Raimi - 0%
uh
no
The greatest, bestest, Heroponest nopon there ever was - 2.45%
While he is the absolute best thing to happen to existence, there are other things that are greater.

Metal Face (Boss) x5
Ugh, so boring.
Abstain for everything.

-Nominations: Andy X5
Abstain from both.

I don't normally do nominations, but I've got an idea.

x5 Ice Climbers
Cmon guys, could you please take a minute and predict? Acting bored makes this less fun for the rest of us. Even quad zeros are something. We are approaching the end of the game, we should be having fun with our predictions rather than just showing up for nominations.
 

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The Extra Nominations post has been updated.

Ratings later. Too busy right now.
 

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Cmon guys, could you please take a minute and predict? Acting bored makes this less fun for the rest of us. Even quad zeros are something. We are approaching the end of the game, we should be having fun with our predictions rather than just showing up for nominations.
You know what, sure. I guess I'd may as well give something.
 

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Alright guv'ner! Git me a round of NOs, will ya!

Both
Chance:0.01%
Want: 0%

This game is pulling out some cool ATs (I get the feeling Sakurai's bringing out as many franchises as possible incase someone's interested in doing a second party game with Nintendo's franchise rights openness... but Eternal Darkness is still in hell, a name not trusted by the gaming world anymore, and loosely associated with Child Pornography... I see no chance of it happening.



John Raimi: 0.1%
I didn't even remember who he was, I'm half temtped to put 0 exactly....
Riki: 0.1%
Similarly... this is just a joke of an idea.


Dragon Questing*5
 
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Akari Hayami

Chance: 5%

Even though she is a Nintendo character, she is hardly recognizable and would be likely over shadowed by the other characters in her game.

Want: 10%

I don't much about her to hate her.

Eternal Darkness Rep

Chance: 87%

I would say the chances of getting a Trophy are our best bet. Getting a playable character just seems too unlikely.

Want: 97%

This is one of the few mature titles that Nintendo solely owns. I would love for Nintendo to give this series some love.
 

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Akari Hayami
Chance: 1% - Trophy material.
Want: 0% meh.

Eternal Darkness Representation:
Chance: 10% - Saying this as the leader of the ED squad, it's not too likely. Music or perhaps Alex or Pious as an assist, maybe.
Want: 100% - Any ED content would make me happy.

Predictions:
John Raimi: 0.2%
Riki: 0.1%

Nominations:
Warrior of Light x4
More 3rd Party Trophies x1
 

Smasher 101

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Akari Hayami's chances: 1% - I don't see Wave Race or 1080 getting a character.
Want: 60% - I wouldn't actually mind if it happened, though.

Eternal Darkness: 1% - I'm iffy on the game even getting a trophy.
Want: 50% - Indifferent.

John Raimi prediction: 0.56%
Riki prediction: 0.97%

Brain Age Stage x5
 
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Akari Hayami
Chance:
0%

I don't think that she'll get in. She's from two series that are more dead and dormant than F-Zero.
Want: 0%
Nah.

Interactive Eternal Darkness Representation
Chance and Want:
Abstain

Dunno much about it and I quite frankly don't care.

John Raimi Prediction: .07%
Who?
Legendary Heropon Riki Prediction: 0.63%
He should do a bit better than Reyn since the Nopon are the cute mascots of Xenoblade, but I expect a lot of "Shulk or bust."

Extra nominations!
Well... what do I nominate?
I have a final troll nomination that I could do (I'm sorry, but I be a bit hilarious here?), end nominating things with a very fitting character, or go for a nifty concept?
Here we go again.
Project M! No Items! Bowser Only! Battlefield!
Oh Bowsers that are fighting right now, tell me a lesson that I should learn...
And I learned that doctors will do whatever it takes to find the perfect cure! The concept has won!
Nominations: Dr. Mario Alt. Costume 10x
 
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Akari Hayami

Chance - 0.01% - She can represent too games, but that's about all that she has going for her. What else is there?

Want - 30% - Meh. Not interesting in the slightest.


Interactive Eternal Darkness Rep

Chance - 2.5% - Maybe. I could see it happening if just for the sanity effects, but otherwise I don't see much of anything.

Want - 75% - But the fake bugs are cool, you gotta admit.

Predictions

John Rami - 0.23% - A whole lot of whos, and not suited as a fighter.

Heropon - 0.45% - Sigh, another troll nomination.


Nominations

"In the Space Pirate Ship" X5
 

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Akari Hayami:
Chance: .2%
Want: Abstain

Interactive Eternal Darkness Representation:
Chance: 3%
Want: 10%

Predictions:
John Raimi: 0.39%
Legendary Heropon Riki: .85%

Nominations:
Mario Party Stage x5
 

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Cmon guys, could you please take a minute and predict? Acting bored makes this less fun for the rest of us. Even quad zeros are something. We are approaching the end of the game, we should be having fun with our predictions rather than just showing up for nominations.
I didn't abstain from them because I find them boring. I abstained because I know nothing about them.:ohwell:
 

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Akari Hayami and Interactive Eternal Darkness Representation:
Quadruple 0%
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Neither have any chance. I honestly think we have more chance of getting 10 Mario reps before either of these two happen.

I really want to put some want in for both, but the former is pretty uninteresting to me, and the latter too unlikely to even make me imagine it due to the nature of the Eternal Darkness series.

Eternal Darkness Music, incidentally, I would not count as interactive, nor would I count a trophy or a sticker as interactive. Maybe we'll get something for that, but it's not going to be interactive.
 

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Akari Hayami
Chance: .5%
There are usually two types of characters we get. Characters from relevant games, or characters from really old games that haven't had sequels in years if any at all. Wave Race is none of those. It's far from modernly relevant, but it's not retro like Ice Climbers or Pit. It's just kinda stuck in limbo

Want: 0%
I had never heard of this character before today
Eternal Dark Representation
Chance: .5%
One-off 2nd party title from over 10 years ago getting some sort of representation? Probably not happening. The company who made the game isn't even affiliated with Nintendo any more, and it's a pretty obscure title. If it was ever going to get representation, it was going to be in Brawl, which didn't happen.

Want: 0%
Never played the game, and not really interested in it
Nominations
Balance Patches x4
Olimar Alternate Costumes (Louie, President, Alph, Charlie) x1
 
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I'd rather abstain than incorrectly skew the rating for both of these, sorry guys. (Don't have time to research either)

I pretty much only came here today to say

Beedrill Pokeball returning x5
 

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Eternal Dark Representation
Chance: 0%
One-off 3rd party title from over 10 years ago getting some sort of representation? Nope. Yeah it's a Nintendo exclusive, but that shouldn't justify anything, it's still an obscure 3rd party title.


Dude


Do a little research

ED is first party​
 

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Akari Hayami- 0.1%
Want- 0%

Eternal Darkness- 2%
Want- 75%, never played, but it looks cool and the thought of M-rated games from Nintendo is intriguing


John Raimi- 0.14%
Riki- 0.85%

Theater Stage x5
 
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Akari Hayami
Chance: 1%
Want: 55%

-I think a Wave Racer/1080 Character would be cool, but I just don't think another racing character would fit in.

Eternal Darkness
Chance: 1%
Want: 0%

- No connection. Heck, I'd never heard of this until today. I at first thought you meant "Perfect Dark" by Rareware. Yeah, to irrelevant to happen.

Nominations:
Idolm@ster Character x 3
Micaiah AT x 2
 
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1% for both in chance, because anything is possible.

50% for want in Akari, because I just don't care

70% for ED because a sanity related AT would be awesome, Can you imagine something like your percentages suddenly getting to 999% temporarily? or the stage dropping into absolutely nothing then suddenly resetting? or maybe your time counter inserting instead of decreasing? THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT WOULD BE AWSOME. But we are not rating that specifically, so I gave it less.

Oh yeah, and x 5 sami
 
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0-0 for snowboard guy
and 2chance-0want for the eternal darkness

Metal Face (boss) x5
 
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