Rajam
Smash Champion
The current Ranking can be seen here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ao2wkjFgtBO3dF9TWGxJNGpMamNEMW5HWGxFaFA2MEE&hl=en
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9090950#post9090950
The list of tournaments considered and the points per tournament can be seen here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ao2wkjFgtBO3dGxjakhmWDZBSVlVck9hU3F1UzhQQVE&hl=en
And the points? What's the formula? How do I know how many points should I be awarded?
(Still in work)
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Hi guys, i want to say i have experience doing rankings and in fact, i have been doing a Ranking for the Chilean Smash Community (a Ranking based purely on tournaments results; it's not really a Power-Ranking or a ladder system). I have an indeep number system and some consistent rules for all this, and i would like to give it a try and make a Brawl Ranking for you guys at the US (and Canada maybe) who are registered members here at Smashboards. I've been managing the Chilean Ranking for longer than a year, and although it's for online tournaments, the same principles can be applied to offline ones. Here i present the results:
TOP TEN
GENERAL RANKING
How This Works?
It works very similar to the ATP Ranking (Tennis). The basic ideas are:
- The Ranking would take into account only the tournaments that have been made within the last 52 weeks (last year). This can change to 6 months or 3 months, or any period of time really.
- For every player, only her/his best 10 results would be taken into account. So if someone has played, lets say 20 tournaments, only the best 10 (in terms of point achieved) would sum. This helps to skilled players who play less to do not being surpassed by less skilled players who play a lot more. This number (10) can also change
- The points given by a tournament are directly proportional to the number of players in the tourney and the money prize
- Points earned by a player are proportional to the place he/she achieved in the tournament. This sounds obvious, but with this i mean i don't really care the number of victories and/or losses a player got in the tourney, but rather i care to what round the player arrived, how far advanced.
- Winning or advancing a round because of a bye won't give points. Instead, winning or advancing a round because of a walkover will give the same points as if you would have fought and won.
- The only flaw of my Ranking system is that it doesn't care about the skill of the players; it assumes a balance, that there will always be skilled players and non-skilled players. This means that two tournaments, with the exact same number of players, money prices, elimination system, etc. will give the exact same distribution points, even if one of those tournaments was full of noobs and the other was full of pros. Luckily and in my experience (and i think you can corroborate this), tournaments are skill-balanced most of the times.
What Would I Need?
- Money Prizes (US currency)
- The Results of the tourney (Not the Final Places only). Most of the time, the bracket picture will be enough. If a group phase was realized, i'd need the results there too (Just how many victories each person got).
- The Smashboards' names of the players. Many times there a lot of guys with very similar names (like boss, BoSs, boss87; Link, link23, shadowlink, etc etc) or even the exact same name across the country. Since here at these forums two or more people can't have the same name, name confusions shouldn't happen. Also, it would be a Ranking for the Smashboards members after all
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Well i think i put most of my ideas in there. I obviously recognize the difference between managing around 100 players (like here in Chile) and maybe over 1000 or 10000 in the US, but i think i can do it. I also assure my number system is pretty well done, it was not done lightly; i gave a lot of thoughts and i arrived to something consistent. I have covered tournaments with single elimination brackets, double elimination brackets, groups, and any combination of these. I am a huge fan of numbers and Rankings, in fact i have a thread here with something similar (Matchup Chart & List). As I said at the beginning, i'd like to give it a try; send me the results of... maybe 3 or 5 tournaments to test (I'd need everything i listed before though, money prizes, ALL the results and the Smashboards player's names) and i'll elaborate a Ranking. Please don't look at the Ranking design lol I don't handle that very much, i just did everything in excel and it can easily be improved.
Well i hope this can work. If anyone is interested, please contact me to test and see the implementation of this. Bye
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ao2wkjFgtBO3dF9TWGxJNGpMamNEMW5HWGxFaFA2MEE&hl=en
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9090950#post9090950
The list of tournaments considered and the points per tournament can be seen here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ao2wkjFgtBO3dGxjakhmWDZBSVlVck9hU3F1UzhQQVE&hl=en
And the points? What's the formula? How do I know how many points should I be awarded?
(Still in work)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi guys, i want to say i have experience doing rankings and in fact, i have been doing a Ranking for the Chilean Smash Community (a Ranking based purely on tournaments results; it's not really a Power-Ranking or a ladder system). I have an indeep number system and some consistent rules for all this, and i would like to give it a try and make a Brawl Ranking for you guys at the US (and Canada maybe) who are registered members here at Smashboards. I've been managing the Chilean Ranking for longer than a year, and although it's for online tournaments, the same principles can be applied to offline ones. Here i present the results:
TOP TEN
GENERAL RANKING
How This Works?
It works very similar to the ATP Ranking (Tennis). The basic ideas are:
- The Ranking would take into account only the tournaments that have been made within the last 52 weeks (last year). This can change to 6 months or 3 months, or any period of time really.
- For every player, only her/his best 10 results would be taken into account. So if someone has played, lets say 20 tournaments, only the best 10 (in terms of point achieved) would sum. This helps to skilled players who play less to do not being surpassed by less skilled players who play a lot more. This number (10) can also change
- The points given by a tournament are directly proportional to the number of players in the tourney and the money prize
- Points earned by a player are proportional to the place he/she achieved in the tournament. This sounds obvious, but with this i mean i don't really care the number of victories and/or losses a player got in the tourney, but rather i care to what round the player arrived, how far advanced.
- Winning or advancing a round because of a bye won't give points. Instead, winning or advancing a round because of a walkover will give the same points as if you would have fought and won.
- The only flaw of my Ranking system is that it doesn't care about the skill of the players; it assumes a balance, that there will always be skilled players and non-skilled players. This means that two tournaments, with the exact same number of players, money prices, elimination system, etc. will give the exact same distribution points, even if one of those tournaments was full of noobs and the other was full of pros. Luckily and in my experience (and i think you can corroborate this), tournaments are skill-balanced most of the times.
What Would I Need?
- Money Prizes (US currency)
- The Results of the tourney (Not the Final Places only). Most of the time, the bracket picture will be enough. If a group phase was realized, i'd need the results there too (Just how many victories each person got).
- The Smashboards' names of the players. Many times there a lot of guys with very similar names (like boss, BoSs, boss87; Link, link23, shadowlink, etc etc) or even the exact same name across the country. Since here at these forums two or more people can't have the same name, name confusions shouldn't happen. Also, it would be a Ranking for the Smashboards members after all
--------
Well i think i put most of my ideas in there. I obviously recognize the difference between managing around 100 players (like here in Chile) and maybe over 1000 or 10000 in the US, but i think i can do it. I also assure my number system is pretty well done, it was not done lightly; i gave a lot of thoughts and i arrived to something consistent. I have covered tournaments with single elimination brackets, double elimination brackets, groups, and any combination of these. I am a huge fan of numbers and Rankings, in fact i have a thread here with something similar (Matchup Chart & List). As I said at the beginning, i'd like to give it a try; send me the results of... maybe 3 or 5 tournaments to test (I'd need everything i listed before though, money prizes, ALL the results and the Smashboards player's names) and i'll elaborate a Ranking. Please don't look at the Ranking design lol I don't handle that very much, i just did everything in excel and it can easily be improved.
Well i hope this can work. If anyone is interested, please contact me to test and see the implementation of this. Bye
