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[Kantrip]

I hate what he did later, hate how he handled Bardull more so.

I don't like his earlier play because I really don't think he did anything note worthy content wise or anything that wasn't safe. Even worse with Bardill he immediately steps back from it when he makes it clear he dislikes the slot but makes no effort to vote or push it instead going, "well maybe?"

Don't flirt around the question.

Do you really buy into the case you just presented to the rest of town? Yes or no?

 

[Friday Townie]

Also tell me your biggest townreads.

If you're town, those people are probably scum.

 

[Friday Townie]

Don't flirt around the question.

Do you really buy into the case you just presented to the rest of town? Yes or no?

What case?

I ISO'd him and I pointed out what I hate about his play this game, he's not doing anything and when he does, it is half baked when he steps back from it or doesn't even try to evaluate. What purpose is there to ask Bardull the questions he did and then throw out an answer that should have waited til he responds.

 

[Circus]

haha oh man

Ruy, that's text book overdoing it. You literally just went back and quoted every post I made and looked for ways to spin it as scum. Do you think that's how townie's scumhunt? Cart before the horse like that?

 

[Friday Townie]

haha oh man

Ruy, that's text book overdoing it. You literally just went back and quoted every post I made and looked for ways to spin it as scum. Do you think that's how townie's scumhunt? Cart before the horse like that?

This proves you didn't even read what I posted since I didn't even spin everything you said to be scummy, I even gave you credit for some legitimate posts.

But please do tell me about how you addressed Bardull, why even take the stance, "he is full of ****" but still step back right away when you spend two paragraphs working on why he was full of it?

 

[Circus]

You're continuing to miss the point.

Whether or not you want to call it a "case," Kantrip is saying that he doesn't believe that you believe what you say you believe, because it's pretty unbelievable. And neither do I.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You're continuing to miss the point.

Whether or not you want to call it a "case," Kantrip is saying that he doesn't believe that you believe what you say you believe, because it's pretty unbelievable. And neither do I.

Do I believe you are scum?

Yes yes I do.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Either way, answer my question.

 

[Circus]

This proves you didn't even read what I posted since I didn't even spin everything you said to be scummy, I even gave you credit for some legitimate posts.

Yeah, I saw that you didn't dig into me on every quote. That's not the point. The point is you just pulled all of my posts out of context and picked them nit-less in order to justify the vote you already put on me. That's tunnelvision at best and misrepresentation at worst.

But please do tell me about how you addressed Bardull, why even take the stance, "he is full of ****" but still step back right away when you spend two paragraphs working on why he was full of it?

Because I've thought Bardull was acting scummy all game, and his cop claim doesn't wash that away, even though it does force me to pause. I want to make the point that no one should be clearing the slot, even if we don't end up lynching it toDay.

Don't get it twisted: just because I didn't vote for Bardull doesn't mean he hasn't been a scum lean for me most of the Day. Nor does that fact that I'm stopping to reconsider after the claim drop mean that I think he's town now. I don't want anybody clearing the slot off of this. But I also want us to actually ****ing think before we lynch for once.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

With No Hetero in this game, @ Circus , that sentence is diiiiirty.

This fence is getting mighty crowded J. #317

@ Circus Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. I don't agree with Frito being the play but I want to know what you think of J/Pawn/Badwolf right now, more preferably J because the other two are kind of hit and miss.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Pawn, I've seen you view like five times now every time I check this thread. You do know if you wanted to scum-lurk you can choose to not show online right?

 

[Circus]

J needs to tone it down or he's going to start making me paranoid of buddy-buddy scum J. He's not there yet.

Pawn is a lurker as usual and of all of the votes on Bardull pre-claim, his is easily the grimiest.

Badwolf town.

 

[Circus]

diggin the Sailor Moon gifs at least

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@ Friday Townie Have you ever considered that you're looking far too much into Circus' play at the moment and reaching some of conclusion without him having the chance to do anything? Did people forget this game has only been open for what, 2 days? We've got people trying to snowball cases on each other, people already claiming that we should lynch. Slow down. I can understand wanting to pressure your scum-reads but the way you're going about it is just so baseless that everyone is just going to ignore you.

This game is just going to end up as a clash of egos if people continue forgetting there are other people in this game besides themselves.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Badwolf town.

 

[Circus]

change my mind

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

tell me yours first

 

[Circus]

tell you myyyy...???

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

whisper sweet nothings in my ear~

about your read on badwolf

 

[Circus]

i mean he was just posting before and it seemed pretty genuine and fine and i was cool with it

burden of proof is kind of on you if you don't feel the same. he hasn't been a big priority to me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

http://smashboards.com/threads/rakes-canadafia.350228/page-8#post-16505043

This is mostly how I feel about him, but right now it's difference of opinion until Badwolf shows up.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Unvote

His crumb was dumb, as Circus said. Nothing will change the amount of attention he drew to himself and how obvious he made it that he was crumbing a PR.

But I'm pretty sure he's town

(anyone feel free to CC)

I don't agree he's likely town. Not a priority, but not to be discounted. He got the ****ing attention he was looking for (no way you're gonna ****ing crumb like that and not beg for attention) so we'll dump em off later if we're not digging em. I'm not up n ready to clear em... but he can stay.

unvote

Oh and god damn it bardull what a bad opening to the game if you're town.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

http://smashboards.com/threads/rakes-canadafia.350228/page-8#post-16505043

This is mostly how I feel about him, but right now it's difference of opinion until Badwolf shows up.

I'm not going to be around much until Monday, and I don't want to post a long thing in here while I'm deadbeat tired cause it'll only cause issues for everyone.

list that matters to me:

Soup/BD - Towny (but that doesn't really matter)
KWK/Kant - null-meh
Circus - Cool town
J - Null town
Gorf - scummy (I've had points before, I'm not going to dredge them up atm)

everyone else can suck it for right now.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I didn't WANT to claim, but if I hadn't, the reality that the HBC would keep on going was too plausible, especially while I wasn't here.

Results come in the form of mafia/not mafia.

WRT PR'ing better: I definitely should have just stayed neutral throughout the game, but I wanted to experiment with a bold crumb early on.

No. You subtly crumb. That's why they're CRUMBS. It's supposed to be HINTS as to what you are and for the future. Not to ****ing paint yourself as a target to scum. But w.e

If it's so obviously real, then why would ANYONE have voted for me and pushed for my slot? Come on now.

He's saying. To scum. Of COURSE scum knows you're not scum, so that's their PR tell.

It's literally to a T. My lynch happened in the exact same fashion in the exact same mannerisms. I come off as arrogant or overbearing as Town, and then marshy rides on the emotions of other slots to hardbody me. I've seen him do this as scum a lot more often than I see him do it as Town.

That... didn't happen at all. You weren't arrogant or overbearing. You were scummy as ****. You skewed a lot of reads.

Just to make this as clear as possible


I said the CRUMB was obviously real. Not that what you're claiming to be is obviously true. It is obvious that the post in which you claim to have crumbed cop does indeed contain crumbs, and is not just a post you're retrofitting into a crumb out of desperation. But that doesn't prove your claim to be true in any way yet. Again, there is no reason to OVERTLY draw attention to a crumb unless a) you are a VT/bomb/some other town role that is intentionally trying to draw the NK, or b) you are scum trying to loudly imply a PR in order to deter wagons on you. Calling attention to a genuine PR crumb defeats THE ENTIRE ****ING POINT OF CRUMBING. Everyone else knew that, which is why plenty of people felt comfortable voting you, and why you still aren't clear now (it truly troubles me that J used the "c" word in reference to you). I'm not gonna sit here and let you claim roleblocked for three Days.

It is telling that your suspicion of No Hetero is not really based on his play, but the specific manner in which he has interacted with you. No "this is scummy" or "that raises a red flag;" just "he's done this to ME before and he was scum THEN."

It is also telling that you've handwaved your back-and-forth with Gorf as nothing but a discussion catalyst, despite the fact that he has pretty much been your sole focus so far toDay, in order to...

body Pawn? The guy with half a dozen posts? You're going to have a case on him tomorrow? Really? Can't wait to see this.

Not to mention the main beef you seem to have with J right now, is copy/paste what your argument against Gorf was before. "He intervened in a discussion and that's scummy!" If J is scummy for this, then why isn't Gorf? If Gorf is still scummy for this, then why do you no longer list him as one of your top 3 scum suspects?

See, a townie would have just admitted to changing their mind about Gorf and show interest in looking elsewhere. But you don't go for that. You dismiss the Gorf suspicion completely, like you never even meant any of it, and are now so scared of looking directionless that you feel like you need to present a case on Pawn, a null slot, while recycling your previous argument against Gorf with J and hoping it sticks this time. It's an overcorrection and it's really obvious.

Like, obviously an un-CC'd cop claim requires some consideration, but you're just so full of hot air I feel like I could pop you with a pin.

I feel this is town by association of thought processes, but I digress.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gorf - scummy (I've had points before, I'm not going to dredge them up atm)

What a tool.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

• pawndidater's vote on my slot is terrible and holds no basis other to join a common wagon, and perhaps this wouldn't be such a problem had he not tried to justify his vote trying to pretend he's doing nothing but wagoning in the first place

this read made the post worth it. thank you soup.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So, am I the only one not instantly wowed by Bwolf's efforts so far? I understand there's a weight on him that he isn't the best player but his whole wall just seems incredibly hollow and a lot feels like Bwolf is trying to crunch and condense everything being said as a means of being town-read, without a purpose to any of it.

I don't think he's today best of course of action though, but I would like more opinions on him.

I think his efforts match the meta, actually. His efforts are morality skewed (with my slot in particular), but he's not try'na be fancy or known, in a good way.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Alright so here's my problem with this game:

im gonna get lynched because bardull screwed up

I have too many town-reads, and I feel like a lot of this game so far has been pretty useless. There's a lot of direction going each way and just recently have people started to agree on my slot, but otherwise, there's a lot of people who haven't really said anything or done anything, and this is honestly where I would prefer to look instead. I'd like to hear more from Fandago, and I'd like to hear more from Pawn. I feel like everyone is jumping the gun again and getting super excited and we're going down this awful, awful #HBC must lynch train that has damned D1 for a very long time.

Let's sit and think, have tea, talk it out. Put the pitchforks down and hug it out.

peace and love xoxo

Dude. Deadline's been close. It's because people just aren't here to be as frequent as some may wanna be. It's not a huge deal, but it's annoying to weed out a lot of scum early. The push on your slot was legit, and could render reads, but I agree that the direction has to be pointed elsewhere. Get more people to open up.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Ruy, tell me: Do you honestly believe everything you wrote there and think it is a good basis to lynch Circus off of?

I honestly had to just see that it's a nice huge quote salad in order to come to this conclusion.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Sorry @Rajam , but can we policy Frito by the end of the Day? The slot officially became unbearable from that case on, and waiting to read Rajam won't be worth it to me.

 

[Kantrip]

What case?

I ISO'd him and I pointed out what I hate about his play this game, he's not doing anything and when he does, it is half baked when he steps back from it or doesn't even try to evaluate. What purpose is there to ask Bardull the questions he did and then throw out an answer that should have waited til he responds.

And everything you said - Do you really feel that way?

Geez this is like trying to pull teeth. Man, I know you don't like lying to people as scum but please at least try to answer me directly.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

And everything you said - Do you really feel that way?

Geez this is like trying to pull teeth. Man, I know you don't like lying to people as scum but please at least try to answer me directly.

Yes I do.

Jesus, I've told you yes 3 times.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Sorry @Rajam , but can we policy Frito by the end of the Day? The slot officially became unbearable from that case on, and waiting to read Rajam won't be worth it to me.

I hydra'd to fill, he might be here this weekend but idk at this point.

 

[Kantrip]

Yes I do.

Jesus, I've told you yes 3 times.

Not directly. I didn't need the political word games from you.

I'd like to refer you to a little phenomenon called confirmation bias. You take all of Circus's posts and try to analyze his gameplay thinking he's scum, you'll find that he's scum 9 times out of 10.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Dude. Deadline's been close. It's because people just aren't here to be as frequent as some may wanna be. It's not a huge deal, but it's annoying to weed out a lot of scum early. The push on your slot was legit, and could render reads, but I agree that the direction has to be pointed elsewhere. Get more people to open up.

dude what the **** i thought this game started like 3 days ago how is there so damn little if this game started last sunday

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

And that's why people are good at lying, and why good players can make a case on anyone look convincing as mafia.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

dude what the **** i thought this game started like 3 days ago how is there so damn little if this game started last sunday

I actually don't know if we NL'd.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not directly. I didn't need the political word games from you.

I'd like to refer you to a little phenomenon called confirmation bias. You take all of Circus's posts and try to analyze his gameplay thinking he's scum, you'll find that he's scum 9 times out of 10.

I did walk into the ISO thinking he was scum, mostly since I don't really dig lynching Gorf or Soup at this point.

I'd lynch Pawn as a back-up but that is the best I could recommend for a scramble lynch.

dude what the **** i thought this game started like 3 days ago how is there so damn little if this game started last sunday

**** sucks, though I think it is sunday, though Rake keeps listing March 21st that just passed so idk at this point.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Soup replaces Bardull.

Everyone give him a warm Canadian welcome.

In lieu of the replacement, I will be extending the deadline to Sunday, March 21st, 12:00 pm midnight central time.

This post is all ****ed up.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I actually don't know if we NL'd.

I'm assuming since he said he extended for the replacement it is sunday, Id play on assuming such.