Xtra
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yep, i would have to say my fav. bump so farBump!!!!
Falcon Punch that ****!!!
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yep, i would have to say my fav. bump so farBump!!!!
Falcon Punch that ****!!!
Well I can bring my GC and SSBM...Ill see if can find an ext. cord or 2.Lemme take a moment to say:
That we really could use everyone to pitch in and bring the following:
- T.Vs
- Game Cube w/hook-ups
- A copy of Smash and other games for Sunday
- Extension cords
- Money (for food and etc.)
Thanks for reading and have a blessed day!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWell please try to convince them to attend...seriously, the strength of this tournament really depends on how many people show up for this!!!
"To Everyone"
This might be the last Odiez tournament I run for a very long while!!! That's kinda why there won't be any tournaments before this tournament coming up!!! Unless we do a "for fun" one during our practice sessions!!! I'm thinking about going back to school out of WI and just gaining my life back entirely!!!
So yeah, I kinda want this to be a great tournament!!!
You can try pming a few of the other people that have expressed intrest in going and see if they could give you ride, depends on where you live though.Somebody take me to this!
To answer your questions:ok some things
1. why is so much $ going to first place only? you should put the bonus money inthe pot and then split that up
2. why is hte pot split so ****ed up
3. why isnt mute city banned in teams
4. why would you give $25 to someone who wins with low tier, when both you and I (and everyone for that matter) know that tiers dont exist
for your health
ok, you dont have to try and cover things up. i know whats going on. by "people' you mean tapion. its obvious. you even asked him for clarification on rules. setting up a tournament for one person is sort of stupid, and i know that's what you are doing because tapion only comes if there is enough money for first place. he didnt go to fond du lac cuz he didnt like the amount of money he would have gotten.To answer your questions:
1.) Because the owner/I wanted to do this, it makes people drive to do their best to win and place high!!! And it brings forth great competition!!!
dont ever say "somethin - somethin" again. also, winner take all tournaments aren't fun for a lot of people because for many there's no point knowing they will be knocked out by one person no matter what (not a problem for me, but others face it).2.) Because this was initially a winner takes all tournament, but then I decided to give a lil somethin - somethin to the runners up!!!
you DID post team rules by saying fod was banned in teams. you failed to mention mute city. also, tapion is not the only knowledgeable source when it comes to smash.3.) Because I didn't know that it should have been. Tapion you wanna clarify this? Also, I didn't even post team tournament rules yet...nor have I posted the rules for the other games either!!!
thats the thing, you are ASSUMING tiers exist. this is wrong, they dont exist. the only reason why "top tier" win tournaments is because they are played more often.4.) Because I'm sick of seeing the same characters win tournaments. And I'd figure if someone is good enough to win with low - tier then, more power and money to them!!!
no, for YOUR healthFor you Health...LOL
Yeah, because it's not like I've been to 5 of the Racine tournaments where for second place I actually lost money for teams. Don't make such ridiculously ignorant assumptions. He's actually been trying to get Tink, Eddie, and other Illinois smashers. He was very excited to get Jazzness, and always wants to have sauce, and other Appleton/fond du lac smashers to come.ok, you dont have to try and cover things up. i know whats going on. by "people' you mean tapion. its obvious. you even asked him for clarification on rules. setting up a tournament for one person is sort of stupid, and i know that's what you are doing because tapion only comes if there is enough money for first place. he didnt go to fond du lac cuz he didnt like the amount of money he would have gotten.
It's not winner take all. Granted the pot split is a little lop sided (which I addressed, but apparently webster doesn't want to change that) but second and third still get pot money, and I'm sure if I win, I'd be willing to give 10% of the pot or more to second place (assuming someone else doesn't take it from me)dont ever say "somethin - somethin" again. also, winner take all tournaments aren't fun for a lot of people because for many there's no point knowing they will be knocked out by one person no matter what (not a problem for me, but others face it).
This is true, but I'm the only one whose number he has. Don't overreact to something so meaningless.you DID post team rules by saying fod was banned in teams. you failed to mention mute city. also, tapion is not the only knowledgeable source when it comes to smash.
This is very wrong... but whatever.thats the thing, you are ASSUMING tiers exist. this is wrong, they dont exist. the only reason why "top tier" win tournaments is because they are played more often.
Uhmm...I don't know who the **** you are or where the **** you have been, but don't EVER come at me like that again! That was completely ****ing childish and absurd, you dumb ****!ok, you dont have to try and cover things up. i know whats going on. by "people' you mean tapion. its obvious. you even asked him for clarification on rules. setting up a tournament for one person is sort of stupid, and i know that's what you are doing because tapion only comes if there is enough money for first place. he didnt go to fond du lac cuz he didnt like the amount of money he would have gotten.
dont ever say "somethin - somethin" again. also, winner take all tournaments aren't fun for a lot of people because for many there's no point knowing they will be knocked out by one person no matter what (not a problem for me, but others face it).
you DID post team rules by saying fod was banned in teams. you failed to mention mute city. also, tapion is not the only knowledgeable source when it comes to smash.
thats the thing, you are ASSUMING tiers exist. this is wrong, they dont exist. the only reason why "top tier" win tournaments is because they are played more often.
no, for YOUR health
p.s. putting 3 exclamation marks doesnt make your points more valid.
This is true, this 250 pound black guys black belt in martial arts will definitely whoop your *** quicker than you can say "tiers don't exist"Oh and by the way...for YOUR Health...don't piss me off!!! Cause I'm very quick to slap the **** out of someone as stupid and childish as you are!!!
did you make a net gain tapion?Yeah, because it's not like I've been to 5 of the Racine tournaments where for second place I actually lost money for teams.
trying =/= actually going. if they did come, im sure he (or they would have made him) change the pot rules. but they aren't so he wants to make sure you DO come, thus the pot.He's actually been trying to get Tink, Eddie, and other Illinois smashers. He was very excited to get Jazzness, and always wants to have sauce, and other Appleton/fond du lac smashers to come.
so you couldnt go because it wouldn't have paid for all of those "expenses"?Also, I didn't go to Fond Du Lac because sauce and crashman were going to go. I also don't exactly have the greatest of cars for traveling long distances. Yes, the small amount of money was a factor, but I have college to pay for, and I have a car I need to take care of. Taking trips to fond du lac for basically "the hell of it" is not something I can currently afford. Get your facts straight...
smartest thing you've said in a long time.It's not winner take all. Granted the pot split is a little lop sided (which I addressed, but apparently webster doesn't want to change that) but second and third still get pot money, and I'm sure if I win, I'd be willing to give 10% of the pot or more to second place (assuming someone else doesn't take it from me)
wasn't overreacting. just noticing the fact that he instantly went to you for information after designing a pot specifically for you.This is true, but I'm the only one whose number he has. Don't overreact to something so meaningless.
Note: Mute City is often tolerated for teams.
explain that neo. he always wins with roy. perfect example why tiers dont exist.This is very wrong... but whatever.
now here's teh BIGGEST problem i had with your post. you've told me and drew and many others COUNTLESS itmes the only reason you go to smash tournaments is for themoney. many people, and most vocally me, tried to stop you from going into this "psuedo-retirement" because you were fun to smash with. in fact, come to think of it, i was the only one who really cared, most other people were apathetic. now you're just a smash w h-ore. so don't talk to me about the "greatness that is a smash tournament" when you retired after not doing what you expected to do @ SMYM, k?Grow up. If you're gonna whine this much, just don't come and let the people who enjoy the company, the fun, and the greatness that is a smash tournament have their fun.
hey, if i ever play you in a tournament we can ask the tourney director to have us play each toher first round. it will be fun.Uhmm...I don't know who the **** you are or where the **** you have been, but don't EVER come at me like that again! That was completely ****ing childish and absurd, you dumb ****!
I go out of my ****ing way, to accommodate everyone's wishes! And for you to say that I'm doing things to benefit Tapion. WTF you must be joking!
Do you have something against him or something, cause it sounds like a personal problem to me...****tard!!!
You know what, if you do come to my tournament I wanna play you first round...so you can go home as fast as you get there!!!
Oh and by the way...for YOUR Health...don't piss me off!!! Cause I'm very quick to slap the **** out of someone as stupid and childish as you are!!!
lol, trying to stop me from expressing my opinions by giving someone's weight, their race, adn their current chuck norris martial arts level is going to fail, especially if it's in the form of an internet threat. id much rather have this guy beat the living **** out of me than have my views oppressed out of fear.This is true, this 250 pound black guys black belt in martial arts will definitely whoop your *** quicker than you can say "tiers don't exist"
I am the tournament director dude!!!hey, if i ever play you in a tournament we can ask the tourney director to have us play each toher first round. it will be fun.
i know you're the tourney director, for this one. but unless DA tells me im goign to this i won't go.I am the tournament director dude!!!
Lemme say this much, I can vouch for Tapion and say that he's came to my tournaments cause there's really close by and it's convenient for him in terms of availability!!! I don't know about how Tapion was back when you were smashing with him. But I grown to know that this guy is all about kickin it and havin fun playing Smash. And on top of that dude, he tries to teach us **** to make us better smashers (some never learn though...LOL)!!! And he's willing to play other games (something I've been fighting with the Tekken community for years) in tournament where there is no cash reward!!!
So for you to say he's all about Smashing for money is completely out of place!!! Because if you want me to keep it real... high level Smashers, Tekkeners, Soul Caliburknights, Naruto - heards...are driven by money cause...and please someone slap me if I'm wrong...
THAT'S WHERE THE HIGH LEVEL COMP. IS LIKELY TO BE...FOR THOSE THAT WANT IT!!!
Look buddy, I'm going to apologize for that, cause I guess I was really pissed when I read what you posted earlier!!! I'm going to let it be known that I fell into the childish rep. of internet whatever...I guess you can call it "crazy talk".lol, trying to stop me from expressing my opinions by giving someone's weight, their race, adn their current chuck norris martial arts level is going to fail, especially if it's in the form of an internet threat. id much rather have this guy beat the living **** out of me than have my views oppressed out of fear.
for your health
tapions rep wasn't the problem. the problem was that the tournament was made to get one person to go. that's not how a tournament should be ran.Look buddy, I'm going to apologize for that, cause I guess I was really pissed when I read what you posted earlier!!! I'm going to let it be known that I fell into the childish rep. of internet whatever...I guess you can call it "crazy talk".
But what you posted was really ****in random and very disrespectful in terms of "keeping the peace of this thread".
It's as if you wanna put a "BAD REP." on Tapion for, IDK, no apparent reason. I mean if you do have a logical reason for all this...I'm sure we'd all be willing to hear it...:veryconfu
The last one I went to, (with jazzness) I actually lost money. I spent 20 dollars the night before for Webster's birthday, spent 20 on gas, 5 dollars on arcade tokens, and won 35 at the tournament (I gave jazzness 10 dollars because I felt 15 was too small for second place, so instead of getting 45, I took 35). So no, I actually lost money (20+20+5 = 45. 45-35 = -10)did you make a net gain tapion?
Again with the ridiculously absurd assumptions. This tournament is not for me. I actually even RECOMMENDED not having the pot bonus at the last tournament I was at simply because more people are likely to come to this next one (more people meaning illinois smashers). Seriously stop being such an idiot.trying =/= actually going. if they did come, im sure he (or they would have made him) change the pot rules. but they aren't so he wants to make sure you DO come, thus the pot.
it's not that I couldn't go because it wouldn't have paid for the "expenses" because the fact is smash won't pay for my "expenses." This is why i have a "job" which I prefer to not miss for "random weekends to fond du lac" so I can make "money" to pay for my "expenses."so you couldnt go because it wouldn't have paid for all of those "expenses"?
I'm not mad at them. I actually have crash unblocked. I didn't go because I didn't want all of us to go for a tournament that was basically for money in the first place for all of us to come home with 5 dollars each. You're the only one I have a problem with.and wtf do you have against crash and sauce? i know you hate me cuz of blood hawk (LOL) and other nameless reason but i don't think they were half as bad as i was.
Sarcasm?smartest thing you've said in a long time.
The pot is not designed for me. Every single pot has been designed for first place whether I was there or not, and everytime I've told him to change it, and every time he's said no. The door fee was my idea to give third place pot money, so don't think he's doing this for me, he's doing this because that's the way he wants to do it.wasn't overreacting. just noticing the fact that he instantly went to you for information after designing a pot specifically for you.
Ok, well I'm neither... Guess you need a new category..note: people who tolerate mute city in teams either:
A: are ignorant as to why it's not to be tolerated or
B: like counterpicking there so much they pretend to not notice why it isn't tolerated
Stop being such an idiot about this... you know as well as I do that he plays Marth.explain that neo. he always wins with roy. perfect example why tiers dont exist.
now here's teh BIGGEST problem i had with your post. you've told me and drew and many others COUNTLESS itmes the only reason you go to smash tournaments is for themoney.You're right, the only reason why I go NOW is for the money because of my current financial situation.
They were apathetic because they understand how hard it can be to pay for your own college, and still have a car to drive to and from school, and not have everything paid for.many people, and most vocally me, tried to stop you from going into this "psuedo-retirement" because you were fun to smash with. in fact, come to think of it, i was the only one who really cared, most other people were apathetic.
When I actually go to smash tournaments, I always have a blast. I love all the people, (except a select few) and playing the game is great. You make it seem like I'm some kind of a low-life for going to tournaments solely for the money. Keep in mind I still play smash, I still enjoy playing with people, but TRAVELING TO TOURNAMENTS AND PEOPLE'S HOUSES IS EXPENSIVE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE NO MONEY TO SPEND ON THEM!now you're just a smash *****. so don't talk to me about the "greatness that is a smash tournament" when you retired after not doing what you expected to do @ SMYM, k?
Stop hiding behind your god **** computer screen, grow the **** up, and before you make more ridiculously ignorant assumptions, maybe you should find out why I'm going to smash tournaments for the money instead of thinking in your head "Tapion's such a jerk to only go for the money." I didn't stop traveling for tournaments because of SMYM. I didn't even want to go to it in the first place. I didn't even want to go to MLG Chicago, I planned on stopping after FC. Obviously I gave in to what is a good time, but my wallet paid for it, and my brain is telling me that I just can't do it anymore.
Life is not smash. For me, life is hard, it's painful, and it's full of struggle. If you lived my life, you wouldn't go to tournaments either.
This is my last response to you because you make me sick. Seriously, grow up.
Yeah for out of state tournament yeah, I wouldn't go either especially if I couldn't afford it.i know you're the tourney director, for this one. but unless DA tells me im goign to this i won't go.
next, i've known tapion longer, and he has told me TO MY FACE AND TO OTHERS AS WELL that he only goes to tournaments now for hte money. no money = no go. that is tapion. i've tried in the past to get tapion to go to other tournaments as he used to be one of, if not MY SINGLE favorite smasher. but now, the answer is always "i probably won't make any money and i dont wanna pay for gas, entrance fees, etc without paying for it with the tournament so no".
no smasher can truly afford to go to a tournament and pay $20+ at times up to 40 for a single tournament plus gas plus food. but wea ll do it anyways. why? because we love the game, not the $. tapion makes more money than anyone in wisc from smash and he still does not go to tournaments where he can't make a net gain, even knowing that in a few weeks he can make it back at a local tourney.Yeah for out of state tournament yeah, I wouldn't go either especially if I couldn't afford it.
cuz in all of them he's made money. connect the dots.Except for the past tournament Xtra ran, I do believe he been to **** near all of them.
Hey, if I was the best smasher in WI and I couldn't afford to go to out of state tournament...and I...just so happen to go to **** near every smash tournament in my state. And...I dunno...win almost everyone of them, would that be a COINCIDENCE?i gotta go play smash but ill respond later if you post.
when you were planning on going to the tournament, did you know you would be doing this? probably not. you calculated whether or not you would probalby come out with a net gain and went. its the intent for why you go to a tournament, which is your problem.The last one I went to, (with jazzness) I actually lost money. I spent 20 dollars the night before for Webster's birthday, spent 20 on gas, 5 dollars on arcade tokens, and won 35 at the tournament (I gave jazzness 10 dollars because I felt 15 was too small for second place, so instead of getting 45, I took 35). So no, I actually lost money (20+20+5 = 45. 45-35 = -10)
you recomending **** doesnt mean jack squat. when the tourney director designed the pot, he designed it so that you would be a guarantee show up. that was the INTENT OF THE HOST. there is no other logical explanation for why he would put that much money into 1st prize only.Again with the ridiculously absurd assumptions. This tournament is not for me. I actually even RECOMMENDED not having the pot bonus at the last tournament I was at simply because more people are likely to come to this next one (more people meaning illinois smashers). Seriously stop being such an idiot.
you're right, i dont have a money situation. but dont tell me you do when i hear tales of your legendary wisconsin tournament attendance. a job is one thing, but dont play it off like you are in poverty when you can attend so many tourneys.it's not that I couldn't go because it wouldn't have paid for the "expenses" because the fact is smash won't pay for my "expenses." This is why i have a "job" which I prefer to not miss for "random weekends to fond du lac" so I can make "money" to pay for my "expenses."
You don't realize my money situation, nor can you understand it because you don't have one.
once again, about the money. and anyways, 5 dollars is hardly inaccurate. first place got aroudn 50 bucks if i remember right. or were you not sure you were gonna get 1st? that's funny, dont go to the tourneys that have competition, only the ones with guaranteed money.I'm not mad at them. I actually have crash unblocked. I didn't go because I didn't want all of us to go for a tournament that was basically for money in the first place for all of us to come home with 5 dollars each. You're the only one I have a problem with.
no.Sarcasm?
he wants his tourney to have high attendance, which is guaranteed by a tapion attendance, which is in turn guaranteed by high 1st prize $.The pot is not designed for me. Every single pot has been designed for first place whether I was there or not, and everytime I've told him to change it, and every time he's said no. The door fee was my idea to give third place pot money, so don't think he's doing this for me, he's doing this because that's the way he wants to do it.
ok, her eyou goOk, well I'm neither... Guess you need a new category..
no. otherwise i would hear "oh he prob cant do it cuz hes really low on cash and i understand that". i heard, "ROFL, i guess tapion's done then".They were apathetic because they understand how hard it can be to pay for your own college, and still have a car to drive to and from school, and not have everything paid for.
anything i say to you on here i would say to your face. you should know that.Stop hiding behind your god **** computer screen, grow the **** up, and before you make more ridiculously ignorant assumptions, maybe you should find out why I'm going to smash tournaments for the money instead of thinking in your head "Tapion's such a jerk to only go for the money." I didn't stop traveling for tournaments because of SMYM. I didn't even want to go to it in the first place. I didn't even want to go to MLG Chicago, I planned on stopping after FC. Obviously I gave in to what is a good time, but my wallet paid for it, and my brain is telling me that I just can't do it anymore.
ok here's wher ei draw the line. im sorry but you dont have a rough life. you go to a college. you ahve a car. you have a place to sleep. you go to tons and tons of smash tourneys. you have a job. seems pretty fine to me. don't play this bull**** pity card cuz it aint working. neither you, nor i, nor anyone on these boards have it rough, get some perspective.Life is not smash. For me, life is hard, it's painful, and it's full of struggle. If you lived my life, you wouldn't go to tournaments either.
This is my last response to you because you make me sick. Seriously, grow up.