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Racine, WI Real $125 Bonus M.P.S Tournament 04/14/07!!!

Devildigimon

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Lemme take a moment to say:

That we really could use everyone to pitch in and bring the following:

- T.Vs
- Game Cube w/hook-ups
- A copy of Smash and other games for Sunday
- Extension cords
- Money (for food and etc.)

Thanks for reading and have a blessed day!!!

:p
 

Sheik_the_Geek

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Lemme take a moment to say:

That we really could use everyone to pitch in and bring the following:

- T.Vs
- Game Cube w/hook-ups
- A copy of Smash and other games for Sunday
- Extension cords
- Money (for food and etc.)

Thanks for reading and have a blessed day!!!

:p
Well I can bring my GC and SSBM...Ill see if can find an ext. cord or 2.
 

Xtra

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i can probably bring one. if i have a ride. no else around here has really talked about going. but i plan on it...
 

Devildigimon

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Well please try to convince them to attend...seriously, the strength of this tournament really depends on how many people show up for this!!!

"To Everyone"
This might be the last Odiez tournament I run for a very long while!!! That's kinda why there won't be any tournaments before this tournament coming up!!! Unless we do a "for fun" one during our practice sessions!!! I'm thinking about going back to school out of WI and just gaining my life back entirely!!!

So yeah, I kinda want this to be a great tournament!!!:)
 

Sheik_the_Geek

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Well please try to convince them to attend...seriously, the strength of this tournament really depends on how many people show up for this!!!

"To Everyone"
This might be the last Odiez tournament I run for a very long while!!! That's kinda why there won't be any tournaments before this tournament coming up!!! Unless we do a "for fun" one during our practice sessions!!! I'm thinking about going back to school out of WI and just gaining my life back entirely!!!

So yeah, I kinda want this to be a great tournament!!!:)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 

Devildigimon

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Actually it really depends on if this tournament is a HUGE success or not...if I'll host/run future tournaments!!!

Also...BUMPDIZZLE!!!:cool:
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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ok some things

1. why is so much $ going to first place only? you should put the bonus money inthe pot and then split that up
2. why is hte pot split so ****ed up
3. why isnt mute city banned in teams
4. why would you give $25 to someone who wins with low tier, when both you and I (and everyone for that matter) know that tiers dont exist

for your health
 

Devildigimon

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ok some things

1. why is so much $ going to first place only? you should put the bonus money inthe pot and then split that up
2. why is hte pot split so ****ed up
3. why isnt mute city banned in teams
4. why would you give $25 to someone who wins with low tier, when both you and I (and everyone for that matter) know that tiers dont exist

for your health
To answer your questions:

1.) Because the owner/I wanted to do this, it makes people drive to do their best to win and place high!!! And it brings forth great competition!!!

2.) Because this was initially a winner takes all tournament, but then I decided to give a lil somethin - somethin to the runners up!!!

3.) Because I didn't know that it should have been. Tapion you wanna clarify this? Also, I didn't even post team tournament rules yet...nor have I posted the rules for the other games either!!!

4.) Because I'm sick of seeing the same characters win tournaments. And I'd figure if someone is good enough to win with low - tier then, more power and money to them!!!

For you Health...LOL:chuckle:
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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To answer your questions:

1.) Because the owner/I wanted to do this, it makes people drive to do their best to win and place high!!! And it brings forth great competition!!!
ok, you dont have to try and cover things up. i know whats going on. by "people' you mean tapion. its obvious. you even asked him for clarification on rules. setting up a tournament for one person is sort of stupid, and i know that's what you are doing because tapion only comes if there is enough money for first place. he didnt go to fond du lac cuz he didnt like the amount of money he would have gotten.

2.) Because this was initially a winner takes all tournament, but then I decided to give a lil somethin - somethin to the runners up!!!
dont ever say "somethin - somethin" again. also, winner take all tournaments aren't fun for a lot of people because for many there's no point knowing they will be knocked out by one person no matter what (not a problem for me, but others face it).

3.) Because I didn't know that it should have been. Tapion you wanna clarify this? Also, I didn't even post team tournament rules yet...nor have I posted the rules for the other games either!!!
you DID post team rules by saying fod was banned in teams. you failed to mention mute city. also, tapion is not the only knowledgeable source when it comes to smash.

4.) Because I'm sick of seeing the same characters win tournaments. And I'd figure if someone is good enough to win with low - tier then, more power and money to them!!!
thats the thing, you are ASSUMING tiers exist. this is wrong, they dont exist. the only reason why "top tier" win tournaments is because they are played more often.

For you Health...LOL:chuckle:
no, for YOUR health




p.s. putting 3 exclamation marks doesnt make your points more valid.
 

Tapion013

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ok, you dont have to try and cover things up. i know whats going on. by "people' you mean tapion. its obvious. you even asked him for clarification on rules. setting up a tournament for one person is sort of stupid, and i know that's what you are doing because tapion only comes if there is enough money for first place. he didnt go to fond du lac cuz he didnt like the amount of money he would have gotten.
Yeah, because it's not like I've been to 5 of the Racine tournaments where for second place I actually lost money for teams. Don't make such ridiculously ignorant assumptions. He's actually been trying to get Tink, Eddie, and other Illinois smashers. He was very excited to get Jazzness, and always wants to have sauce, and other Appleton/fond du lac smashers to come.

Also, I didn't go to Fond Du Lac because sauce and crashman were going to go. I also don't exactly have the greatest of cars for traveling long distances. Yes, the small amount of money was a factor, but I have college to pay for, and I have a car I need to take care of. Taking trips to fond du lac for basically "the hell of it" is not something I can currently afford. Get your facts straight...


dont ever say "somethin - somethin" again. also, winner take all tournaments aren't fun for a lot of people because for many there's no point knowing they will be knocked out by one person no matter what (not a problem for me, but others face it).
It's not winner take all. Granted the pot split is a little lop sided (which I addressed, but apparently webster doesn't want to change that) but second and third still get pot money, and I'm sure if I win, I'd be willing to give 10% of the pot or more to second place (assuming someone else doesn't take it from me)


you DID post team rules by saying fod was banned in teams. you failed to mention mute city. also, tapion is not the only knowledgeable source when it comes to smash.
This is true, but I'm the only one whose number he has. Don't overreact to something so meaningless.

Note: Mute City is often tolerated for teams.


thats the thing, you are ASSUMING tiers exist. this is wrong, they dont exist. the only reason why "top tier" win tournaments is because they are played more often.
This is very wrong... but whatever.

Grow up. If you're gonna whine this much, just don't come and let the people who enjoy the company, the fun, and the greatness that is a smash tournament have their fun.
 

Devildigimon

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ok, you dont have to try and cover things up. i know whats going on. by "people' you mean tapion. its obvious. you even asked him for clarification on rules. setting up a tournament for one person is sort of stupid, and i know that's what you are doing because tapion only comes if there is enough money for first place. he didnt go to fond du lac cuz he didnt like the amount of money he would have gotten.


dont ever say "somethin - somethin" again. also, winner take all tournaments aren't fun for a lot of people because for many there's no point knowing they will be knocked out by one person no matter what (not a problem for me, but others face it).


you DID post team rules by saying fod was banned in teams. you failed to mention mute city. also, tapion is not the only knowledgeable source when it comes to smash.


thats the thing, you are ASSUMING tiers exist. this is wrong, they dont exist. the only reason why "top tier" win tournaments is because they are played more often.



no, for YOUR health




p.s. putting 3 exclamation marks doesnt make your points more valid.
Uhmm...I don't know who the **** you are or where the **** you have been, but don't EVER come at me like that again! That was completely ****ing childish and absurd, you dumb ****!

I go out of my ****ing way, to accommodate everyone's wishes! And for you to say that I'm doing things to benefit Tapion. WTF you must be joking!

Do you have something against him or something, cause it sounds like a personal problem to me...****tard!!!

You know what, if you do come to my tournament I wanna play you first round...so you can go home as fast as you get there!!!

Oh and by the way...for YOUR Health...don't piss me off!!! Cause I'm very quick to slap the **** out of someone as stupid and childish as you are!!!:mad:
 

Tapion013

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Oh and by the way...for YOUR Health...don't piss me off!!! Cause I'm very quick to slap the **** out of someone as stupid and childish as you are!!!:mad:
This is true, this 250 pound black guys black belt in martial arts will definitely whoop your *** quicker than you can say "tiers don't exist"
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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Yeah, because it's not like I've been to 5 of the Racine tournaments where for second place I actually lost money for teams.
did you make a net gain tapion?
He's actually been trying to get Tink, Eddie, and other Illinois smashers. He was very excited to get Jazzness, and always wants to have sauce, and other Appleton/fond du lac smashers to come.
trying =/= actually going. if they did come, im sure he (or they would have made him) change the pot rules. but they aren't so he wants to make sure you DO come, thus the pot.

Also, I didn't go to Fond Du Lac because sauce and crashman were going to go. I also don't exactly have the greatest of cars for traveling long distances. Yes, the small amount of money was a factor, but I have college to pay for, and I have a car I need to take care of. Taking trips to fond du lac for basically "the hell of it" is not something I can currently afford. Get your facts straight...
so you couldnt go because it wouldn't have paid for all of those "expenses"?

and wtf do you have against crash and sauce? i know you hate me cuz of blood hawk (LOL) and other nameless reason but i don't think they were half as bad as i was.




It's not winner take all. Granted the pot split is a little lop sided (which I addressed, but apparently webster doesn't want to change that) but second and third still get pot money, and I'm sure if I win, I'd be willing to give 10% of the pot or more to second place (assuming someone else doesn't take it from me)
smartest thing you've said in a long time.




This is true, but I'm the only one whose number he has. Don't overreact to something so meaningless.

Note: Mute City is often tolerated for teams.
wasn't overreacting. just noticing the fact that he instantly went to you for information after designing a pot specifically for you.

note: people who tolerate mute city in teams either:
A: are ignorant as to why it's not to be tolerated or
B: like counterpicking there so much they pretend to not notice why it isn't tolerated


This is very wrong... but whatever.
explain that neo. he always wins with roy. perfect example why tiers dont exist.

Grow up. If you're gonna whine this much, just don't come and let the people who enjoy the company, the fun, and the greatness that is a smash tournament have their fun.
now here's teh BIGGEST problem i had with your post. you've told me and drew and many others COUNTLESS itmes the only reason you go to smash tournaments is for themoney. many people, and most vocally me, tried to stop you from going into this "psuedo-retirement" because you were fun to smash with. in fact, come to think of it, i was the only one who really cared, most other people were apathetic. now you're just a smash w h-ore. so don't talk to me about the "greatness that is a smash tournament" when you retired after not doing what you expected to do @ SMYM, k?

Uhmm...I don't know who the **** you are or where the **** you have been, but don't EVER come at me like that again! That was completely ****ing childish and absurd, you dumb ****!

I go out of my ****ing way, to accommodate everyone's wishes! And for you to say that I'm doing things to benefit Tapion. WTF you must be joking!

Do you have something against him or something, cause it sounds like a personal problem to me...****tard!!!

You know what, if you do come to my tournament I wanna play you first round...so you can go home as fast as you get there!!!

Oh and by the way...for YOUR Health...don't piss me off!!! Cause I'm very quick to slap the **** out of someone as stupid and childish as you are!!!:mad:
hey, if i ever play you in a tournament we can ask the tourney director to have us play each toher first round. it will be fun.

for your health

 

Devildigimon

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Tapion:

I wouldn't say all that, I'm actually a really nice person who refrains from fighting (when I don't need to OR WHEN I'M NOT DEALING WITH CHILDISH DUMB ***** WHO I LATER MEET FROM THIS SITE)...because:

I do think that...Richard Simmons is a living ICON!!!

Great Job...:laugh:
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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This is true, this 250 pound black guys black belt in martial arts will definitely whoop your *** quicker than you can say "tiers don't exist"
lol, trying to stop me from expressing my opinions by giving someone's weight, their race, adn their current chuck norris martial arts level is going to fail, especially if it's in the form of an internet threat. id much rather have this guy beat the living **** out of me than have my views oppressed out of fear.

for your health
 

Devildigimon

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hey, if i ever play you in a tournament we can ask the tourney director to have us play each toher first round. it will be fun.
I am the tournament director dude!!!

Lemme say this much, I can vouch for Tapion and say that he's came to my tournaments cause there's really close by and it's convenient for him in terms of availability!!! I don't know about how Tapion was back when you were smashing with him. But I grown to know that this guy is all about kickin it and havin fun playing Smash. And on top of that dude, he tries to teach us **** to make us better smashers (some never learn though...LOL)!!! And he's willing to play other games (something I've been fighting with the Tekken community for years) in tournament where there is no cash reward!!!

So for you to say he's all about Smashing for money is completely out of place!!! Because if you want me to keep it real... high level Smashers, Tekkeners, Soul Caliburknights, Naruto - heards...are driven by money cause...and please someone slap me if I'm wrong...

THAT'S WHERE THE HIGH LEVEL COMP. IS LIKELY TO BE...FOR THOSE THAT WANT IT!!!
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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I am the tournament director dude!!!

Lemme say this much, I can vouch for Tapion and say that he's came to my tournaments cause there's really close by and it's convenient for him in terms of availability!!! I don't know about how Tapion was back when you were smashing with him. But I grown to know that this guy is all about kickin it and havin fun playing Smash. And on top of that dude, he tries to teach us **** to make us better smashers (some never learn though...LOL)!!! And he's willing to play other games (something I've been fighting with the Tekken community for years) in tournament where there is no cash reward!!!

So for you to say he's all about Smashing for money is completely out of place!!! Because if you want me to keep it real... high level Smashers, Tekkeners, Soul Caliburknights, Naruto - heards...are driven by money cause...and please someone slap me if I'm wrong...

THAT'S WHERE THE HIGH LEVEL COMP. IS LIKELY TO BE...FOR THOSE THAT WANT IT!!!
i know you're the tourney director, for this one. but unless DA tells me im goign to this i won't go.

next, i've known tapion longer, and he has told me TO MY FACE AND TO OTHERS AS WELL that he only goes to tournaments now for hte money. no money = no go. that is tapion. i've tried in the past to get tapion to go to other tournaments as he used to be one of, if not MY SINGLE favorite smasher. but now, the answer is always "i probably won't make any money and i dont wanna pay for gas, entrance fees, etc without paying for it with the tournament so no".
 

Devildigimon

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lol, trying to stop me from expressing my opinions by giving someone's weight, their race, adn their current chuck norris martial arts level is going to fail, especially if it's in the form of an internet threat. id much rather have this guy beat the living **** out of me than have my views oppressed out of fear.

for your health
Look buddy, I'm going to apologize for that, cause I guess I was really pissed when I read what you posted earlier!!! I'm going to let it be known that I fell into the childish rep. of internet whatever...I guess you can call it "crazy talk".

But what you posted was really ****in random and very disrespectful in terms of "keeping the peace of this thread".

It's as if you wanna put a "BAD REP." on Tapion for, IDK, no apparent reason. I mean if you do have a logical reason for all this...I'm sure we'd all be willing to hear it...:veryconfu
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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Look buddy, I'm going to apologize for that, cause I guess I was really pissed when I read what you posted earlier!!! I'm going to let it be known that I fell into the childish rep. of internet whatever...I guess you can call it "crazy talk".

But what you posted was really ****in random and very disrespectful in terms of "keeping the peace of this thread".

It's as if you wanna put a "BAD REP." on Tapion for, IDK, no apparent reason. I mean if you do have a logical reason for all this...I'm sure we'd all be willing to hear it...:veryconfu
tapions rep wasn't the problem. the problem was that the tournament was made to get one person to go. that's not how a tournament should be ran.

i already posted what i feel about tapion earlier if you wanna look through it.
 

Tapion013

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did you make a net gain tapion?
The last one I went to, (with jazzness) I actually lost money. I spent 20 dollars the night before for Webster's birthday, spent 20 on gas, 5 dollars on arcade tokens, and won 35 at the tournament (I gave jazzness 10 dollars because I felt 15 was too small for second place, so instead of getting 45, I took 35). So no, I actually lost money (20+20+5 = 45. 45-35 = -10)

trying =/= actually going. if they did come, im sure he (or they would have made him) change the pot rules. but they aren't so he wants to make sure you DO come, thus the pot.
Again with the ridiculously absurd assumptions. This tournament is not for me. I actually even RECOMMENDED not having the pot bonus at the last tournament I was at simply because more people are likely to come to this next one (more people meaning illinois smashers). Seriously stop being such an idiot.

so you couldnt go because it wouldn't have paid for all of those "expenses"?
it's not that I couldn't go because it wouldn't have paid for the "expenses" because the fact is smash won't pay for my "expenses." This is why i have a "job" which I prefer to not miss for "random weekends to fond du lac" so I can make "money" to pay for my "expenses."

You don't realize my money situation, nor can you understand it because you don't have one.

and wtf do you have against crash and sauce? i know you hate me cuz of blood hawk (LOL) and other nameless reason but i don't think they were half as bad as i was.
I'm not mad at them. I actually have crash unblocked. I didn't go because I didn't want all of us to go for a tournament that was basically for money in the first place for all of us to come home with 5 dollars each. You're the only one I have a problem with.

smartest thing you've said in a long time.
Sarcasm?

wasn't overreacting. just noticing the fact that he instantly went to you for information after designing a pot specifically for you.
The pot is not designed for me. Every single pot has been designed for first place whether I was there or not, and everytime I've told him to change it, and every time he's said no. The door fee was my idea to give third place pot money, so don't think he's doing this for me, he's doing this because that's the way he wants to do it.

note: people who tolerate mute city in teams either:
A: are ignorant as to why it's not to be tolerated or
B: like counterpicking there so much they pretend to not notice why it isn't tolerated
Ok, well I'm neither... Guess you need a new category..

explain that neo. he always wins with roy. perfect example why tiers dont exist.
Stop being such an idiot about this... you know as well as I do that he plays Marth.

now here's teh BIGGEST problem i had with your post. you've told me and drew and many others COUNTLESS itmes the only reason you go to smash tournaments is for themoney.
You're right, the only reason why I go NOW is for the money because of my current financial situation.

many people, and most vocally me, tried to stop you from going into this "psuedo-retirement" because you were fun to smash with. in fact, come to think of it, i was the only one who really cared, most other people were apathetic.
They were apathetic because they understand how hard it can be to pay for your own college, and still have a car to drive to and from school, and not have everything paid for.

now you're just a smash *****. so don't talk to me about the "greatness that is a smash tournament" when you retired after not doing what you expected to do @ SMYM, k?
When I actually go to smash tournaments, I always have a blast. I love all the people, (except a select few) and playing the game is great. You make it seem like I'm some kind of a low-life for going to tournaments solely for the money. Keep in mind I still play smash, I still enjoy playing with people, but TRAVELING TO TOURNAMENTS AND PEOPLE'S HOUSES IS EXPENSIVE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE NO MONEY TO SPEND ON THEM!

Stop hiding behind your god **** computer screen, grow the **** up, and before you make more ridiculously ignorant assumptions, maybe you should find out why I'm going to smash tournaments for the money instead of thinking in your head "Tapion's such a jerk to only go for the money." I didn't stop traveling for tournaments because of SMYM. I didn't even want to go to it in the first place. I didn't even want to go to MLG Chicago, I planned on stopping after FC. Obviously I gave in to what is a good time, but my wallet paid for it, and my brain is telling me that I just can't do it anymore.

Life is not smash. For me, life is hard, it's painful, and it's full of struggle. If you lived my life, you wouldn't go to tournaments either.

This is my last response to you because you make me sick. Seriously, grow up.
 

Devildigimon

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i know you're the tourney director, for this one. but unless DA tells me im goign to this i won't go.

next, i've known tapion longer, and he has told me TO MY FACE AND TO OTHERS AS WELL that he only goes to tournaments now for hte money. no money = no go. that is tapion. i've tried in the past to get tapion to go to other tournaments as he used to be one of, if not MY SINGLE favorite smasher. but now, the answer is always "i probably won't make any money and i dont wanna pay for gas, entrance fees, etc without paying for it with the tournament so no".
Yeah for out of state tournament yeah, I wouldn't go either especially if I couldn't afford it.

Except for the past tournament Xtra ran, I do believe he been to **** near all of them.
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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Yeah for out of state tournament yeah, I wouldn't go either especially if I couldn't afford it.
no smasher can truly afford to go to a tournament and pay $20+ at times up to 40 for a single tournament plus gas plus food. but wea ll do it anyways. why? because we love the game, not the $. tapion makes more money than anyone in wisc from smash and he still does not go to tournaments where he can't make a net gain, even knowing that in a few weeks he can make it back at a local tourney.

Except for the past tournament Xtra ran, I do believe he been to **** near all of them.
cuz in all of them he's made money. connect the dots.


i gotta go play smash but ill respond later if you post.
 

Devildigimon

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i gotta go play smash but ill respond later if you post.
Hey, if I was the best smasher in WI and I couldn't afford to go to out of state tournament...and I...just so happen to go to **** near every smash tournament in my state. And...I dunno...win almost everyone of them, would that be a COINCIDENCE?
 

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Vouching for Tapion since he gave me part of his winnings when i took second at one of these.

Stop flaming people Rick... it's immature and inappropriate.
 

Dr. Steve Brule

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The last one I went to, (with jazzness) I actually lost money. I spent 20 dollars the night before for Webster's birthday, spent 20 on gas, 5 dollars on arcade tokens, and won 35 at the tournament (I gave jazzness 10 dollars because I felt 15 was too small for second place, so instead of getting 45, I took 35). So no, I actually lost money (20+20+5 = 45. 45-35 = -10)
when you were planning on going to the tournament, did you know you would be doing this? probably not. you calculated whether or not you would probalby come out with a net gain and went. its the intent for why you go to a tournament, which is your problem.



Again with the ridiculously absurd assumptions. This tournament is not for me. I actually even RECOMMENDED not having the pot bonus at the last tournament I was at simply because more people are likely to come to this next one (more people meaning illinois smashers). Seriously stop being such an idiot.
you recomending **** doesnt mean jack squat. when the tourney director designed the pot, he designed it so that you would be a guarantee show up. that was the INTENT OF THE HOST. there is no other logical explanation for why he would put that much money into 1st prize only.

Facts
1. you need money
2. host knows you need money
3. host knows you will win tourney
4. if you do not make a net gain, you do not go to a tournament
5. to ensure you make a net gain, host biases pot ridiculously towards first place., thus ensuring your attendance. whatever you do with the money is your choice, but he has a guaranteed attendance of tapion, which helps his tourney wonders.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM I HAD no tournament should be made this way. although i completely disaprove of why you go to tourneys, that wasn't the issue. the issue was a tourney based on your negative smash attitude.


it's not that I couldn't go because it wouldn't have paid for the "expenses" because the fact is smash won't pay for my "expenses." This is why i have a "job" which I prefer to not miss for "random weekends to fond du lac" so I can make "money" to pay for my "expenses."

You don't realize my money situation, nor can you understand it because you don't have one.
you're right, i dont have a money situation. but dont tell me you do when i hear tales of your legendary wisconsin tournament attendance. a job is one thing, but dont play it off like you are in poverty when you can attend so many tourneys.



I'm not mad at them. I actually have crash unblocked. I didn't go because I didn't want all of us to go for a tournament that was basically for money in the first place for all of us to come home with 5 dollars each. You're the only one I have a problem with.
once again, about the money. and anyways, 5 dollars is hardly inaccurate. first place got aroudn 50 bucks if i remember right. or were you not sure you were gonna get 1st? that's funny, dont go to the tourneys that have competition, only the ones with guaranteed money.



no.



The pot is not designed for me. Every single pot has been designed for first place whether I was there or not, and everytime I've told him to change it, and every time he's said no. The door fee was my idea to give third place pot money, so don't think he's doing this for me, he's doing this because that's the way he wants to do it.
he wants his tourney to have high attendance, which is guaranteed by a tapion attendance, which is in turn guaranteed by high 1st prize $.



Ok, well I'm neither... Guess you need a new category..
ok, her eyou go
C: people who play in a teams tournament where it doesnt matter what stages are on cuz they know they are gonna win


They were apathetic because they understand how hard it can be to pay for your own college, and still have a car to drive to and from school, and not have everything paid for.
no. otherwise i would hear "oh he prob cant do it cuz hes really low on cash and i understand that". i heard, "ROFL, i guess tapion's done then".



Stop hiding behind your god **** computer screen, grow the **** up, and before you make more ridiculously ignorant assumptions, maybe you should find out why I'm going to smash tournaments for the money instead of thinking in your head "Tapion's such a jerk to only go for the money." I didn't stop traveling for tournaments because of SMYM. I didn't even want to go to it in the first place. I didn't even want to go to MLG Chicago, I planned on stopping after FC. Obviously I gave in to what is a good time, but my wallet paid for it, and my brain is telling me that I just can't do it anymore.
anything i say to you on here i would say to your face. you should know that.

next, reasons for going for money:

i have to pay for alot of things = smash money will never cover. will it help? sure. would traveling to a tournament with people and losing maybe 20-30 bucks from entrance fees (cuz youd prob be able to get out of paying gas) once in a while hurt your pocket SO much your financial situation would change so drastically that you would never be able to go to smash tournaments again? no, it wouldn't.

now lets go back in time to after smym. when tapion was so fed up with the game because he lost to marth1 in pools and got elimed. "im just not improving, im stuck in a rut. i wont get better and there's no point to traveling to smash tournaments anymore". THATS WHY YOU ****IGN QUIT. so what do you do? you go to wisc tournaments where wisc smashers idolize you and pay you royally to be there. here's a suggestion. try stepping outside of your comfort zone and maybe sticking with it instead of giving up like a loser.

Life is not smash. For me, life is hard, it's painful, and it's full of struggle. If you lived my life, you wouldn't go to tournaments either.

This is my last response to you because you make me sick. Seriously, grow up.
ok here's wher ei draw the line. im sorry but you dont have a rough life. you go to a college. you ahve a car. you have a place to sleep. you go to tons and tons of smash tourneys. you have a job. seems pretty fine to me. don't play this bull**** pity card cuz it aint working. neither you, nor i, nor anyone on these boards have it rough, get some perspective.


and i typed all of this knowing you wont respond. cuz hopefullly people can see what bull**** you are spewing.



also, its a smart idea when you are stating an arguement to NOT try to play yourself off as not caring about hte money then outright say you go to tournaments solely for the money.

to all who say im "flaming" and being "immature". idk, but it seems to me i was threatened physically by whoever the host is because i disagreed with the rules. THAT sounds immature to me, idk about you. and as for flaming, i haven't said one false statement about tapion. i've only said things that i have experienced first hand. if that comes off as flaming then it's not my fault.


and as final note, i used to ****ign love you tapion. you were my smash hero. maybe that was because you were the first good person i played. i dont like to think that. i like to think that it was because you were really helpful and pretty tolerant and an all around nice guy. but then you quit, and something in you changed. jokes you usually laughed at you didn't anymore, aka retirement jokes. you didnt like the game the way you did before. it wasn't about the competition or the improving, it was about the money. then the blood hawk thing happend and i have no ****ing clue what happened to you. i may be a jerk to you now, but i SURE AS HELL wasn't a jerk to you ever before. why would i be a jerk to someone i continued to idolize? the answer is, i wouldn't.

so you can go on thinking you are the victim and i am the criminal but to me it's the other way around.
 

Tongji

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doctor steve brule, who and what are you doing here in this turny thread?? I have never heard about/ met you and I find it extreamly embarrasing that this kind of discussion is going on in a wisconsin board. I have never met tapion in real life, however all I have heard from other players about him are good things. Who cares where and when he goes to turneys. IT"S NOT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS!! Tapion can do what he wants and I think that you could have the decency to let him do that. So please stop making a fool of yourself and a fool of the wisconsin smashing community.
 

eighteenspikes

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Um... if 35 people come to activate the $100 pot bonus, that $335 pot is guaranteed to attract people better than tapion...
 

Tongji

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hey spikes, i just want to say right now that I think that we should definatly do our 6.43 MM sometime before we get destracted! (and not end up doing it) what do you say? your still on right?
 

Devildigimon

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Dr. Steve Brule: Okay look...it's time to leave this topic about Tapion alone!!!

I'm getting tired of reading banter and it's really getting ridiculous...so PLEASE stop it, considering you started this.

From here on out send Tapion PM's if you have issues to address with him, even though by now sure you may have been blocked!!!

Sad faces!!!:urg:
 
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