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Yeah it was kind of a bummer Ashley is still a assist, still there might be hope for Mona if there is to be a new Warioware character.. I hope there is more announcements soon, I am so looking forward to seeing more characters especially Medusa.. Some say Palutena's echo is Viridi, but I disagree she was more of a supportive character and the next character has gotta be a villain and Medusa is the villain.I hope so! Like with Ashley, I prefer when things are confirmed or deconfirmed right off the bat. The wait for characters like Isabelle or Zelda reps is killing me actually
Despite the bunch of info we got... I need more. I think we all want more.
I think we all want to be in december already actually.
Viridi can make sense as an echo. I may prefer Medusa (if it wasn't obvious), but as a goddess, Viridi is also eligible to that role, she does grant Pit the same powers as Palutena.
Also being the villain makes Medusa more likely than Viridi so it would make perfect sense to add her as Palutena's echo.
Well Toon Link and Young Link aren't Echos of Link. They were originally clones yes, but that just means they had similar designs, they don't reuse assets(animations, skeletons, hitboxes etc) from Link the way Lucina reuses assets from Marth. Viridi can't echo Medusa because of the differences in their models where as Medusa is basically the same model as Palutena, down to the staff. The only significant difference being their hair. Viridi might have a better overall chance of being a playable character, but there's no way she can be an Echo of Palutena.
I get what you are saying, especially about Viridi's popularity and the Mii costume.
Simple. We spent 6 years already showing why she is different. We can continue that. Medusa have the advantage of being able of being both a unique fighter and an echo fighter, and both with legitimate design reasons. (she have unique attacks, but she is also a counterpart of Palutena).
my and ESPECIALLY my . I'm totally down for Medusa as well. While a full newcomer would be ideal, I wouldn't mind her being a Palutena echo. I just want her in the game. Her design is so cool (and honestly I wanted her in Smash 4, 10x more than Palutena who let's be honest here without custom moves was terrible).
There seems to be a villains theme this time, so that gives Medusa the advantage. Also compared to other ips, Im thinking when it comes adding a new Kid Icarus character it will be both echo which is easy to add and a villain, Medusa can do both to where she is a counterpart to Palutena like how Dark Pit is to Pit and she is recognized as the villain of the Kid Icarus series.
I'm totes latched on Medusa to be added as a echo fighter, I just want to play as her in Super Smash Bros.. Maybe even main her.
Let's be cautious with the villain theme. K.Rool's trailer intro may be only for him. But with both Ridley and K.Rool confronting their rivals at the end of their trailers, we are on a good start. Plus Dark Samus, who is a character similar to Medusa when it comes to echoes. A dark counterpart, able of many different things from Samus, but who make also sense as an echo.
I like Palutena's moveset, although it's a bit lacking in some aspects in SSB4. But if we get a Medusa echo, I'll try as hard as I can, the same way I kept Zelda as a main since Melee
Mained Ganon since Melee and mained Palutena in Smash 4.. I wonder if some of Medusa's echo moves would be a darkness element like they used with Ganon?Let's be cautious with the villain theme. K.Rool's trailer intro may be only for him. But with both Ridley and K.Rool confronting their rivals at the end of their trailers, we are on a good start. Plus Dark Samus, who is a character similar to Medusa when it comes to echoes. A dark counterpart, able of many different things from Samus, but who make also sense as an echo.
I like Palutena's moveset, although it's a bit lacking in some aspects in SSB4. But if we get a Medusa echo, I'll try as hard as I can, the same way I kept Zelda as a main since Melee
As a goddess of Darkness, this seems to be a given to me. Once again, it will probably be like Dark Samus, where the fire attacks were replaced by a phazon-like effect that electrocute.
That's a strong reason why I don't mind Medusa being an echo; my apologies if I didn't mention that before. The way I see it, if she doesn't have to wrestle with a ton of other possible newcomers for a limited position, then that's all the better for me.
" Hoping Viridi's classic quote sounds better on the Switch too. Despite all these years and how many times I've heard it now, her "goodbye human scum" quote still kind of gets me every now and again. I wanna hear that on a more powerful system.
It's true that ditto can apply a texture... As well as the metal box when we think about it, since Melee. And Inklings ink too! The question is the function. Falling fast? Being stuck in the air (think Sub-Zero for that)? Acting like the freeze effect?
Yeah, this also help indeed!
I really want to see if Viridi is animated, and how the forest look like. But what we saw is already gorgeous. About KI... It's strangely scarce for the moment. No signs of Magnus and Phosphora, no Daybreak, and the others items are here, but not so much shown, except for the new staff (this will be fun to reflect!).And I CANNOT agree more about new KI content and the Reset Bomb Forest stage. Minute I saw the stage on the official site, I already told myself then and there "this looks way better than the 3DS version! I can't wait to smash it up here when the game comes out!
Firstly, if I may, I believe the petrification will most likely act like the frozen effect. Mostly because it makes the most sense to me (if you're made of unmoving stone, then, er, well... you can't move,) but also because if memory serves, didn't KI:U have both a freeze and petrify effect that acted similarly too? Just that one lasted longer than the other? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that. But at the end of the day, I'm still strongly in support of petrifaction (...just realized that's the correct way you say it
) acting like the frozen condition.
To be honest, it's been a long time since I played KI:U so I don't remember how freeze and stone act.Firstly, if I may, I believe the petrification will most likely act like the frozen effect. Mostly because it makes the most sense to me (if you're made of unmoving stone, then, er, well... you can't move,) but also because if memory serves, didn't KI:U have both a freeze and petrify effect that acted similarly too? Just that one lasted longer than the other? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that. But at the end of the day, I'm still strongly in support of petrifaction (...just realized that's the correct way you say it
Yes, that's what I meant. And if it's ok for items (despite not being showcased, we still have the Drill Arm, Ore Club, X-Bomb and Killer Eye), I still find this really weird that no Kid Icarus stages were shown in both direct. It's there, like the items but... It's strangely quiet. Maybe the Reset Bomb Forest is not finalised and that why it's not seen yet.
I guess I don't pay attention to the small details as well as others do, since I'm still a little lost as to why copying and tweaking the frozen mechanic would be weird. If all else fails, then perhaps trying to combine elements from the frozen and metal effects could be a good compromise? Just needs a different texture that represents stone instead of ice or metal of course.
Thank you so much for mentioning that. For a minute, I thought I was losing my mind because of false memories or something. Phew!
Actually if not already confirmed, I can see Magnus actually being replaced by Viridi for assist trophies and practically demoted to just being simply a trophy.. Medusa however I see getting the big promotion to echo fighter especially since shes a villain rep.
sorry for late reply i just came back from military but no i havent made yet and i probably wouldnt because my free time is now less i just have few days until i dissappear again online i wish i had enough time to do moreI still support Medusa, just as I did for Smash 4. She'd just be a cool addition to the cast being old-school (the OG Kid Icarus antagonist), a female and a villain. I think her design and moves would be pretty cool. And let's face it, she's much more deserving than Dark Pit, he only really made it because he was an easy clone for Pit. But Medusa is to Pit and Palutena what Ganondorf is to Link and Zelda, so she deserves the spot.
I think she has a good shot of being a Palutena Echo. After the last direct, we know her animations and moves can vary significantly from the original, so there's no reason for her not to be added, really.
PS: Does anyone know ifGeno Boost ever made a cute animated icon for Medusa such as the ones in my signature?
I can see her auto reticle gainimg a increase we9ght mod to it, to replicate petrification. And would help differ her from Palutena if she is an echo.
That's to do with the Japanese ratings boards coming down harder than the did 5 years ago. Not sure what triggered the change.
Yes, but what I'm saying is that Medusa's dress doesn't show leg, so this change make Palutena's dress easier to mod into Medusa's dress. A lucky coincidence? Or Sakurai taking a opportunity to kill two problems with one stone?
Ahh, I see. Never realized frozen fighters were floatier. So yeah, if they were to fall at a speed that implies "really heavy thing," then all the better. Thanks for informing me about the fall speed.
As I'm also a big Shantae supporter and tend to visit the Shantae thread often, the fact Cree hasn't said much about her role as Medusa reminds me of the "silence is deafening" quote that people have been spreading in the Shantae thread (due to WayForward not saying anything about supporting Shantae this time around, despite being eager to have her included as a Smash Ballot DLC character a while back.) Long story short, this has lead Shantae supporters to believe WayForward has entered a Non-Disclosure Agreement with Nintendo, and can't speak about Shantae being in Ultimate until the game is released. I'm probably jumping the gun here, but darn it, I need something to latch on to before I lose my mind from panicking. So if there's an NDA thing going on between Nintendo and Cree involving Medusa's fate in SSBU, we may have a glimmer of hope that Medusa's getting in, some way, somehow.
If anything, Medusa's side cleavage is the problem.
