QAC is Back! UPDATE!!

[E-ColeWorld]

Everybody who plan on using Pikachu in Sm4sh probably already know this, but just in case I will state it here. Pikachu can perform the technique QAC by only landing on sloped ground and the end of ledges. A great example would be me demonstrating it on the video below. The stage was at an angle when I was performing it.


PIKACHU using QAC in SSB for WII U
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8HZRwWN7lHc

LONG LIVE PIKA!!!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Whoa seems like it's back indeed! This is going to do well for Pikachu for sure!

 

[E-ColeWorld]

Whoa seems like it's back indeed! This is going to do well for Pikachu for sure!

Indeed it will

 

[Pikabunz]

Good job on confirming this. I couldn't do it when I tried for some reason.

 

[E-ColeWorld]

Good job on confirming this. I couldn't do it when I tried for some reason.

yea i had problems *at first* but i figured it out pretty fast

 

[Sapphire Dragon]

Yeah, same here. I actually managed to do it Wednesday but had no proof so people didn't really notice it.

So glad you could get video proof! QACs ftw.

 

[SmashShadow]

With this, I'm sure Pikachu will be at least B tier

 

[Goten21]

YAAAAAAAAS *****ES YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

THE MAIN ***** IS BACK ON TOP TO WATCH THE REST OF DEM ******* FLAWP

 

[E-ColeWorld]

With this, I'm sure Pikachu will be at least B tier

About this B tier???

 

[Leaf.]

Thanks so much for finding this.
And to think I was having second thoughts about playing Pika in Smash 4, too...

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

 

[Ookami Hajime]

It truly is a gift from Sakurai, haha

 

[yoonb]

I'm a little late to the party but I am so glad QAC is back. When I read on Reddit that it was gone, I wanted to cry.

 

[Veggi]

This technique is really fun and I feel like it really compliments Pikachu's being/playstyle. I'm very happy to see it back. Hopefully it's not too hard because I won't want to learn it if it's any harder than the Brawl version.

 

[chainmaillekid]

Yes!

I came on just to check this.


Now we just need to figure out if Greeninja's Up B also has a QAC.

 

[E-ColeWorld]

Yes!

I came on just to check this.


Now we just need to figure out if Greeninja's Up B also has a QAC.

I highly doubt it, but hopefully it will be some form

 

[Oatmeal.]

By the chus, it's back! My secondaries are growing in number.

 

[E-ColeWorld]

By the chus, it's back! My secondaries are growing in number.

Why so many secondaries??

 

[Oatmeal.]

Why so many secondaries??

I'm one of those guys who mains like half the board. Charizard and Mac are my top two, so I call all the rest my seconds. Pikachu is among them.

 

[E-ColeWorld]

I'm one of those guys who mains like half the board. Charizard and Mac are my top two, so I call all the rest my seconds. Pikachu is among them.

Oh! Nothing wrong with that I guess. If anything you can be good with all characters

 

[Soul.]

Lol, SmashWiki says Pikachu can't do the QAC anymore.

I guess they haven't seen the video. It's already confirmed to be in. I suppose their news are dated, but oh well.

 

[VillagerComesToTown]

It's just like Smash 64 all over again

 

[Cassio]

My friend confirmed again its back at the SDCC tournament.

 

[Soul.]

My friend confirmed again its back at the SDCC tournament.

Great. Next stop is that every Pikachu main sees if QAC'ing is still possible in the final version.
Just asking, is it back on the Wii U version only or is it on the 3DS version as well?

 

[monkokaio]

yea i had problems *at first* but i figured it out pretty fast

What do you mean it gave you problems at first? Is it more difficult to do than in Brawl? Or did you just not realize you were doing it?

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

What is a QAC?

 

[Soul.]

What is a QAC?

Quick Attack Cancel, an advanced technique that only Pikachu can perform. Its use is very simple in that you use the move into the ground and jump right after to cancel the lag at the end of the momentum, making approaching easier for the character.

This is the QAC in Brawl, but the orignal post of this thread has the video of it in Smash Bros. 4.

 

[ZackTheGreat]

Quick Attack Cancel, an advanced technique that only Pikachu can perform. Its use is very simple in that you use the move into the ground and jump right after to cancel the lag at the end of the momentum, making approaching easier for the character.

This is the QAC in Brawl, but the orignal post of this thread has the video of it in Smash Bros. 4.

I've been trying to do this move for ages, but I always seem to hit the ground instead of doing a cancel. I'm just glad that my attempts to learn this move will transfer into Smash 4!

 

[E-ColeWorld]

What do you mean it gave you problems at first? Is it more difficult to do than in Brawl? Or did you just not realize you were doing it?

I was trying to QAC on brawls timing but on smash 4 in the demo it was a different timing. Besides i was playing with the pro controller sadly

 

[Soul.]

I've been trying to do this move for ages, but I always seem to hit the ground instead of doing a cancel. I'm just glad that my attempts to learn this move will transfer into Smash 4!

You need to be precise. Just keep practicing and you'll use it perfectly. I think you'll be able to practice more on Smash 3DS because of the portability and good online multiplayer. QAC is confirmed for this version if you didn't know already. (Yes, it's also on Smash Wii U.)

 

[Pokemon-master]

yup now im sure my mains are greninja and pikachu and i will destroy all who appose me

 

[VioletSmashfan]

Lol, SmashWiki says Pikachu can't do the QAC anymore.

I guess they haven't seen the video. It's already confirmed to be in. I suppose their news are dated, but oh well.

Sigh SmashWiki is unreliable once again, although give it a few weeks they'll fix it, although QAC is a little bit harder to perform this time around compared to Brawl.

 

[Soul.]

Sigh SmashWiki is unreliable once again, although give it a few weeks they'll fix it, although QAC is a little bit harder to perform this time around compared to Brawl.

At this point, I think SmashWiki is unreliable---well, that could change when the games are released.
Yeah, QAC is a bit difficult to perform, but at least it's there. It's still going to work the same way it did in Brawl, so that's a good thing.

 

[VioletSmashfan]

At this point, I think SmashWiki is unreliable---well, that could change when the games are released.
Yeah, QAC is a bit difficult to perform, but at least it's there. It's still going to work the same way it did in Brawl, so that's a good thing.

Yes it is a good thing that QAC is back (just SmashWiki was a little late on the news), and Thunder meteor smashing is both a buff and a nerf to Pika (buff for the fact it gives him a bit more options and sets up tech chases, nerf since it's no longer a reliable KO move (can Thunder meteor smash someone while offstage to their deaths?)

 

[Soul.]

Yes it is a good thing that QAC is back (just SmashWiki was a little late on the news), and Thunder meteor smashing is both a buff and a nerf to Pika (buff for the fact it gives him a bit more options and sets up tech chases, nerf since it's no longer a reliable KO move (can Thunder meteor smash someone while offstage to their deaths?)

Yes, Thunder changed from being a reliable KO move in early percents to a move used to combo / tech chase.
Maybe. I think it depends on the Pikachu main and where will the opponent be offstage. Thunder could very well be a "risky" move, but eh, it could give a reward.
And about the QAC, yeah, SmashWiki is late. The technique being on Smash 4 is good news for Pikachu anyway.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

I wish there wasn't an announcement that QAC was gone. I've seen quite a bit of people who seem to think it's gone and that was a done deal. :/

Anyway, I'm debating whether or not to just try learn QAC in brawl or to just wait until Smash 4. If the timing is different, I don't want to end up having my muscle memory mess with me. What do you guys think?

Edit: I should clarify, that I do know the process of how to do it, I just don't have the timing down.

 

[Soul.]

I wish there wasn't an announcement that QAC was gone. I've seen quite a bit of people who seem to think it's gone and that was a done deal. :/

Anyway, I'm debating whether or not to just try learn QAC in brawl or to just wait until Smash 4. If the timing is different, I don't want to end up having my muscle memory mess with me. What do you guys think?

Edit: I should clarify, that I do know the process of how to do it, I just don't have the timing down.

People thought it was gone, maybe that's why they posted things about it. Thankfully, the technique has been confirmed to return in Smash 4 so there's that.
You should wait until Smash 3DS is released. The timing is different compared to Brawl's; I think it's best to focus on the new game. Once the game is out, you can try doing QAC. There will probably be videos of the technique in the final build of the game on YouTube if people can't do it.

 

[Sapphire Dragon]

What do you mean it gave you problems at first? Is it more difficult to do than in Brawl? Or did you just not realize you were doing it?

I wouldn't say it's more difficult, it is just a different timing. I was able to do it rather easily on the Wii U version, but not on the 3DS version (it's there in both, but I played 3DS first so I was just getting used to new Pika). What makes it seem difficult is your Brawl muscle memory. If you have any it's likely to take you longer to find the timing. Combine that with people being in line in the demo and when you played, you were either playing in a match with 3 others on Wii U or only briefly in the 3DS pre-match training room before a CPU match, and that gave a small window of time to find QAC's timing.

 

[ConeZ]

So I'll add Pikachu to my list of characters to play xD

To clarify, QAC is still hitting jump around the time you hit the ground, correct? It is not some other mystery command?

 

[Soul.]

So I'll add Pikachu to my list of characters to play xD

To clarify, QAC is still hitting jump around the time you hit the ground, correct? It is not some other mystery command?

Yes, it's still hitting the ground and jump right after. The timing is a bit different this time, though.