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Which is unlikely, but still possible. We only need to get enough people interested in the game. The Pokémon Puzzle Challenge Miiverse community seems like a good jumping off place (it should be obvious why).
Considering the past seven years, and considering we have a trophy of Fat Mac... yeah, I think Lip WILL get a trophy. They already have a model from Captain Rainbow and everything.
They both look great! I don't get the duck, though.
I don't know. Nintendo has been pretty adamant about making sure the fairies don't get anything outside of the odd Virtual Console rerelease lately. At best, we'll probably get a passing mention in Fat Mac's trophy description, and that's if we're lucky.
I don't expect to be able to play as Lip in Smash, but I do expect a trophy. That's all I expect. Don't call me optimistic. I'm very pessimistic about Panel de Pon content at this point, but not even having a trophy, despite Lip's Theme being in the game and Lip having a working 3D model? I don't buy it, sorry.
You'd think that Nintendo would try to invest in bringing back Panel De Pon, with Lip and her friends. Now that they are heavily trying to appeal to the female demographic, in both the west and east in fact.
Splatoon is very cutesy as well and is heavily promoting the female characters more often. I mean, its a shooting game, but its done in a very lighthearted fashion with cute designs for the characters. It makes me sour about Nintendo's dealing with Panel de Pon in the past... I heard that IS was talking about reviving their franchises back around E3, I really want them to revive Panel de Pon, WITH the fairies of course, AND have NoA location it WITH the fairies. Seriously.
If IS continues Panel de Pon, I'd say Lip would be a near-guarantee in my eyes. I just don't think its happening anytime soon, but I really would like it to.
What I personally think Nintendo needs to do is get their IPs out their to mobile markets. That is what stole the Blue Market strategy, the demographic of gamers who didn't know they were gamers. Nintendo is addressing the use of their biggest selling point, their rich characters, very well lately- with tons of crossovers (MK8, Pokken Fighters), Historically Rich content (NES Remix, even loading screens with 8bit nosalgia), and the launch of amiibos.
In fairness, who did you think they'd pick to represent the Nintendo Girl's Club? A prominent character from their flagship franchise and who is immediately associable with the company, or a relatively small-time one who's only rarely been seen (officially) outside her home country?
Where did you see Peach chosen as the spokesperson for this, because those videos you quoted did not seem to have any spokesperson at all.
I didn't name Peach specifically, but her crown is in the logo.
You, likewise, didn't name anybody at all.
I don't have a 3DS, otherwise I'd gladly buy it. I'll take anything Panel de Pon-related. Granted, I can't stand Pokemon, but whatever, I'd still take it anyway because its Panel de Pon.
I prefer consoles period, but puzzle games generally are nice on handhelds because you can take them on the go and play a quick session. Consoles tend to be better for longer games like RPG's that aren't easy to break away from.
Panel Poppers? Did I ever name drop that? I recalled talking about an engine, but I don't remember calling it Panel Poppers here just yet... Maybe I did and I just forgot?Firstly, I formally request that somebody add me to the Panel Poppers, if you please.
Secondly, I came up with my own Lip moveset some time ago and embellished it a little after seeing yours.
Its still about 90% mine, but I'll give credit where its due.
I only have an entrance animation, specials, taunts, and custom specials for now.
Hope you like it, enjoy!
~Lip~
~Stats~
Size: 1/10 - Olimar-sized, minus the bubble helmet, ponytail reaches approximately the same height as the light on his helmet
Weight: 2/10 -Slightly heavier than Jigglypuff
Power: 2/10 - Weakest character in terms of raw damage percentage and has fairly low knockback all-around
Speed: 6/10 - A little faster than Mario
Jump: 9/10 - Slightly shorter jumps than Falco's, but more noticeable due to her smaller size.
Aerial Momentum: 9/10 - A little bit slower than Wario in the air
Versatility: 10/10 - Quite possibly the most complex Smash character, due to her puzzle game origins
Entrance Animation: A 2-D rainbow sprite appears with a 2-D Lip sprite riding down it like a slide towards the screen. Once it comes closer it cuts through the "dimensional barrier" between the 2D and 3D realm, with both the rainbow and Lip becoming HD models after this point.
She does a small flip off of the end of the raibow and lands while holding her stick aloft and winking to the players, letting out a little "Ikuso!" (literally "Let's go!")
~Specials~
Neutral Special - PanePon: Summons "PanePon" blocks (like Kirby's "smiling brick" Stone form, which is actually a Panel de Pon Garbage Block) at the touch of a button.
-How it Works-
The blocks appear about 3 Lip's high above the ground and a little in front of her before falling down in a manner similar to Kirby's Stone.
Holding the button cycles through different Pons, allowing you to choose the one that you want in a manner similar to Pac-Man's Bonus Fruit, except instead of having a definitive end to your choice it cycles back around to the first PanePon. Each of the different blocks have a separate fall speed, damage, and various other effects. After a PanePon has been dropped it'll become the new default type that the list starts on if used again.
If used in the air it significantly slows down Lip's descent.
-Limits-
Can be used rapid-fire style to drop up to 3 PanePon at once, but can be stacked up to 6 Pons tall if used in conjunction with jumping or from a higher platform over a lower one.
Pons can also be made into multiple stacks so long as the total on the Battlefield does not excede 6, newer Pons created after the 6th one will delete previously placed Pons from oldest to newest.
On top of that, the PanePons have a shared timer before vanishing, so the more Pons on the screen at a time the quicker they will disappear.
A single PanePon on the screen will last 30 seconds, but each additional one created subtracts 5 seconds while simultaneously rounding the timer up to the nearest 5 seconds.
1 Pon = 30 seconds, 2 = 25 seconds, 3 = 20 seconds, etc., up to a total of 6 Pons at 5 seconds.
If you already have 6 PanePons out you can continue to make more, but they don't subtract time OR round up the timer again, meaning that they will all vanish 5 seconds after the 6th one was made.
-Attributes-
The Pons act as a physical wall, blocking movement and projectiles, but can also be wall-jumped off of or wall stuck to, and can be used as a fully physical platform to boot.
Pons that are hit with any number of attacks that cause AT LEAST 10% total damage to them will slide one Pon width horizontally in that direction, and then fall if it was in the air.
Any attack from Lip causes this instantly.
-Chains-
If there are ever at least 3 of the same PanePon type touching in a row either vertically or horizontally they will glow and then burst, dealing damage per block in the Chain and decent knockback to anyone in contact or the immediate vicinity of the Pons, excluding Lip.
ie; a 3 Heart Pon Chain will deal 12% (4% from below*3 blocks) to any enemies near any of the blocks, and a 5-hit Diamond Chain will do 3.5*5 =17.5%
If Lip is standing on top of a Pon that is part of a Chain when it blows then she will basically perform a Super Jump that is about double her normal jump height.
Creating "PanePon Chains" will build up the strength and size of Lip's Garbage Block PanePon.
Chains can also Meteor Smash from above.
-PanePon Types-
Heart: Default, does 7% pounding damage and 4% Chain damage.
Circle: Falls slowly, does 5% pounding damage and 4.5% Chain damage.
Diamond: Falls fast, does 9% pounding damage and 3.5% Chain damage.
Yellow Star: Same as Heart damage-wise, but has a larger Chain burst effect and also damages Lip if she is in the vicinity.
Triangle: Same as Heart damage-wise, but any character standing on the block has decreased gravity, making them have less weight when knockback is taken into account and also granting higher jumps.
Moving on it has a slippery ice effect.
Upside-down Triangle: Same as Heart damage-wise, but any character standing on the block has increased gravity, making them have more weight when knockback is taken into account and also granting shorter jumps.
Movement speed while on the blocks is also decreased.
Grey [!] Block: Volatile, explodes when hit and destroys any nearby PanePon, counting it all as a consecutive Chain, 5% pounding damage and 3.5% Chain damage.
Garbage Block: Twice the horizontal size of regular blocks, does 15% pounding damage but can't be chained except via an [!] block. Has about triple the starting lag of other PanePons, but can still rapid-fire 3 of them after the lag.
If used within the same timer as a Chain then its damage, knockback, and size all double, making it Lip's most powerful K.O. move.
Unlike other PanePons that can be moved with attacks, Garbage Blocks are immobile.
Side Special - Panel Swap: Lip creates a large two-box cursor, one box in front of her and the other around herself.
It floats in place for about 3 seconds before disappearing.
While it is floating it can be moved up, down, forward, or backward 1 PanePon length at a time until time's up and it vanishes.
Pressing A or B at any point while the cursor is on-screen will instantly swap any character, PanePon, projectile, or item contained in one box with the other while keeping their momentum.
This allows Lip to counter projectiles by using Panel Swap to trade places with it and allowing it to continue its trajectory passed her, or to swap places with an edge guarding foe, or to create easier PanePon chains.
If used without moving the cursor it allows Lip to move forward with a tiny teleport dash, referred to as "Swap Dashing".
If used on the ground it is similar to a shorter length forward Dodge Roll, but keeps Lip facing forward.
It can even be quickly used in the air up to 3 times to boost her horizontal recovery, but sends her into a free fall once used.
If B is pressed then Panel Swap ends immediately after the switch, but A can be used to make as many switches as desired until the 3 second time limit is up.
When used in the air Lip continus to fall, but at a reduced speed.
Up Special - Watabou: Lip pulls out Watabou; a tiny white-round-fluffy dandelion-creature-thing, which takes off with Lip hanging on.
He doesn't inflict any direct damage or knockback, but its basically a shorter duration version of Pit's old Power of Flight, so its good for recovery.
While flying, Watabou produces a short-range rain of pollen that causes tripping to enemies below, even if they're shielding.
After the flight ends, Watabou pops like a scattered dandelion and Lip flips off of his stem-body with a stomping-style fast-plummeting freefall with Superarmor.
Any characters that come into physical contact with Lip during this stomp will immediately be Footstooled, regardless of the direction of the point of contact, practically warping under her feet.
The Superarmor disappears after a successful Footstool and cancels Lip's free fall animation, allowing her to act with anything besides Watabou again, including Panel Swap.
Down Special - Fairy Blossom: A charge move where Lip holds her stick aloft and concentrates solar energy into the tip.
Charge time can be saved by dodging or shielding, and saved charge can be seen by a glowing effect around the stick's tip.
If it goes without charging for some time it will gradually lose its charge (starts decresing after 5 consecutive chargeless seconds at a rate of 1 charge second per second).
After 10 total seconds of charge time, Lip's Stick blooms, causing a powerful burst of energy in front of her that inflicts 20% with high knockback in a fairly large circular area.
For the next 10 seconds all of Lip's normal attacks, throws, and even her grab pummel inflict the Lip's Stick status effect for continuous damage.
Once in bloom, the player can charge Fairy Blossom to to add to the the Lip's Stick time limit, 1 second charge for an additional 1 second of Lip's Stick.
Lip's stick and the Fairy Blossom charge time reset to 0 prematurely if Lip is K.O.'d, or if she receives knockback while charging Fairy Blossom.
~Taunts~
*Each of Lip's Taunts secretly increase her Fairy Blossom charge time by 1 second while simultaneously resetting PanePon's time limit to the nearest 5 seconds once per life per taunt.
^ Taunt: Lip hops up into a twisty breeze, spinning in place once while dropping flower petals.
Once she finishes spinning she faces completely frontward towards the players and holds her stick up while shouting an echoing "Nintendo!"
<> Taunt: Lip plucks a tiny flower and sniffs it, but suddenly she sneezes, blowing the petals off of the poor little flower.
The sneeze creates a tiny wind hitbox that slightly pushes her opponents and even reflects projectiles!
v Taunt: A large sunflower suddenly blooms under Lip, she sits on it while cradling her head in her hands and slowly kicking her feet while humming.
She stays in this position for as long as v Taunt is held, and it makes her immune to grounded attacks like Green Shells and down tilts.
When released the sunflower sinks into the ground and she gets off of it, dusting herself off.
Pretty laggy when ending.
~Custom Specials~
Neutral Special 2 - SlowPon: Works just like the regular PanePon special, except:
-Only 3 blocks at a time.
-No rapid-fire feature.
-They fall SUUUPER SLOOOOW, so you can create floating platforms out of them.
-No "pounding" damage, instead Chain damage for each PanePon is *2.5.
-Timer is only 3 seconds total, resets for each new PanePon placed until the 3rd, then it just deletes the oldest for each new one and they all disappear 3 seconds after the 3rd Pon was formed.
Neutral Special 3 - BombPon: Works just like the regular PanePon except:
-They explode as if in a Chain after 2 seconds.
-Placing a new PanePons resets the 2 second timer until the 6th one, then it just replaces older ones and they all explode after 2 seconds.
-No "pounding" damage, instead Chain damage is *150% with an increased Chain Burst size, and also damages Lip.
-Twice the starting lag of the other Pon moves, as Lip's friend Flare appears to touch the Pon to grant it her explosive powers.
Side Special 2: Flip Swap: Exactly like Quick Swap, except it flips around anything caught within the swap as if it was hit by Mario's Cape.
Side Special 3: Trick Swap: Exactly like Quick Swap, except:
-Slightly longer startup, as Lip's friend Sherbet appears and freezes the cursor with her breath.
-Only lasts 1 second and can't be moved.
-Holding forward swaps Lip with something in front of her, backward swaps behind her, up swaps above her, and down swaps below her, no input leaves her in place.
-Pressing A or B makes the swap happen instantly.
-Can only be used in the air twice, but Lip pauses in mid-air while swapping, and Lip still goes into a free fall afterward.
-After the move finishes, the cursor plummets and shatters as a weak ice projectile for 6%.
Up Special 2 - Mighty Watabou: Exactly as the original, except:
-Watabou is twice as big and can be Footstooled off of, but it doesn't cause any ill effect to Watabou or Lip, also flies at half speed but for twice as long.
-Watabou's pollen has a bigger range and puts to Sleep through shields rather than causing tripping.
-At the end, Lip Footstools off of Watabou which causes him to pop, so she can
act immediately out of it but she loses out on her Superarmor Footstool.
Up Special 3 - Windy Ride: Lip's friend Windy appears on a cloud and pulls Lip along by her hand.
Has amazing horizontal movement and speed but a little lacking in terms of vertical recovery.
Lip still flips from Windy's hand for her usual Superarmor Footstool though, and the flip has more vertical height but less horizontal range than normal.
Down Special 2 - Fairy Duster: Exactly like the original except:
-Instead of inflicting Lip's Stick it lulls foes to Sleep with physical attacks.
-Timer for inflicting Sleep is 7 seconds instead of Fairy Blossom's 10 seconds.
-Hitting a Sleeping foe doesn't put them to Sleep again.
-Doesn't inflict Sleep off of throws or pummel.
-If it goes without charging for 3 consecutive chargeless seconds it'll depreciate charge time at a rate of 1 charge second per second.
Down Special 3 - Fairy Staff: Works exactly like the original except:
-Lip's friend Thiana appears to bless Lip's Stick, causing it to grow 150% its size for increased range.
-No attacks inflict status effects, instead all attacks inflict +2% damage and have increased priority for 10 seconds.
-Gains Superarmor while charging Smashes.
Edit: Hong, how on Earth did you read and like this less than 3 minutes after I posted it?!
Or maybe I'm psychic?
Oh, lol, so I completely wrote up that entire thing and it was for something totally different. Lol. I just called the engine "Panel Poppers" because it had Panel in the name and it sounded alright. I didn't realize that was the name of the supporters. Damn. Well, if the name fits!
Last time I checked, didn't people consider the Nintendo Girls Club sexist to the point of the channel being killed off?
It looks good to me. You seem to have gotten garbage blocks and panels mixed up, and a few of the buffs seem like they last a bit long, but it does seem like something I'd enjoy playing as. I like the alternate move sets, they add authenticity.By the way, I've been meaning to ask:
Does anyone have any constructive criticism on my Lip moveset? (post #2148)
I know its mostly only the specials and its hard to tell how it'd work in-game by text alone, but I'm pretty interested in seeing if I could start up a Lip moveset project for Brawl once I get a new computer, and ideas/criticism from people who are both PdP fans AND professional Smash players would be appreciated in trying to get it right if I choose to go forward with it.
Did I represent the Panel de Pon games well?
Do you prefer a previously suggested Lip moveset more?
Does the character sound like they'd be fun to play?
Does the basic premise sound like its balanced or overpowered?
Do I need to explain the moves in more detail, or what I envision as being general Lip gameplay to clear things up?
Does this come off as an attempted thread hijacking?
4theRECORD
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kyoskue
, sorry if it took a while. Been busy this week and it's been rough.
Huh?
Its 4 or more Panels to make Garbage blocks. Now, if you make a Chain, it only has to be 3 from x2 onwards. Ever additional chain adds another row to the garbage block.
