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Project Volnutt - Currently seeking animators!
- Thread starter digiholic
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digiholic
Smash Ace
It doesn't. I'm not sure what you'd mean by strange scaling differences, though.
digiholic
Smash Ace
Not yet. If he doesn't message me by tomorrow, I'll send it again.
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
fortwaffles:
Last Activity: Today 11:25 AM
Wierd though, I think he went online sometime earlier or something
Last Activity: Today 11:25 AM
Wierd though, I think he went online sometime earlier or something
digiholic
Smash Ace
If this doesn't work, I've found out that the Zero Project uses PSA scaling. I'm assuming that means one of two things:
1. Hurtboxes and effects can be scaled down afterwards, or
2. Animations done on a small character can be ported easily to a big character.
Either way, I could just get started animating on my tiny character, and either scale him later or downscale his stuff.
1. Hurtboxes and effects can be scaled down afterwards, or
2. Animations done on a small character can be ported easily to a big character.
Either way, I could just get started animating on my tiny character, and either scale him later or downscale his stuff.
E-Jolteon
Smash Ace
PSA scaling doesn't affect hitboxes, only te size of the character. So if you make a size 3 hitbox, it'll always be the same size no matter how you scale the model itself.
Nope. PSA scaling affects the hurtboxes, but not the hitboxes (i.e. the boxes for detecting the character being hit, but not them hitting). What you said works for "hitboxes" but not "hurtboxes". If you watch BSZ's latest two videos, you can see that Zero takes damage from really far away. I asked in the mdl0 thread about it, but BSZ hadn't responded last time I checked.
digiholic
Smash Ace
From what I've seen Eldiran/BSZ posting around, it seems like they aren't worried about animating, just the PSA work for the PSA-scaled model. Of course, I could be misinterpreting the little tidbits I've seen them post to evidence this.
Have you begun animating on the tiny model?
Have you begun animating on the tiny model?
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
Can you port the animations from TvC anyway? I think you can since thats what they did with Zero
If ever though, I'd be willing to try animating him :D
If ever though, I'd be willing to try animating him :D
digiholic
Smash Ace
Zero's all custom. I've been trying to rip animations, but I can't find them on the disc. I think I'll just record a short video of all of Volnutt's moves and make frame by frame reference images. It'll take a while, but I think it'll look good.
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
Hmm, I guess I might as well try animating him
digiholic
Smash Ace
I've recorded a video that has all of Volnutt's animations in it. I'll be ripping gifs as reference for animations. First up is Wait1
If anyone wants to animate, the ZakoGirl00.pac on the front page has the model we'll be using.
EDIT: Coming along nicely, relatively speaking.
If anyone wants to animate, the ZakoGirl00.pac on the front page has the model we'll be using.
EDIT: Coming along nicely, relatively speaking.
Giygue
Smash Journeyman
nice job so far! it looks awesome. but one thing is bugging the heck out of me...why does he have all of his weapons out at once?
diosensakiara
Smash Apprentice
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so Digiholic did the polygon stretching thing get fixed,and does he not run in place anymore? =3
The ZakoGirl00.pac? Why are you doing it over an alloy? Won't that cause porting problems?
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
Yeah, wouldn't it be nicer to have it ported over first on another character like Rob?
I'll be watching some TvC vids to see too
BTW: We should make his running animation like Lan Hikari in MMBN, it seems better don't cha think?
I'll be watching some TvC vids to see too
BTW: We should make his running animation like Lan Hikari in MMBN, it seems better don't cha think?
digiholic
Smash Ace
That's just how the model is. I plan on making them over ROB's effects and polygon delete them from his original model.
Haven't fixed the polygon thing, but I think it'll be easy to fix once Brawlbox 0.64 is released next week.
I was just saying that the most recent version of the MDL0 is in the ZakoGirl pac on page 1. It's going on ROB, I'm just far too lazy to upload a new file.
I'll upload the animation test to youtube, and I'll still make gifs. (I can easily rip individual frames from a gif)
Lan's run seems like a good run animation for Volnutt.
So, are you officially joining the project, then?
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
I'm willing to animate if someone would gladly like to link me a short guide to animating it.
Then I'll be good to go! :D
Then I'll be good to go! :D
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Do you mean in the pictures of the BB Model Viewer? The same thing happens with Pit where you can always see his shield as well as his split bow and whole bow.
digiholic
Smash Ace
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
Ok I know how to partially edit the animations 
, the bones are a bit confusing though
Nice video, I can get more out of it now
EDIT: Where is Megaman Facing on the default view in BrawlBox?
, the bones are a bit confusing thoughNice video, I can get more out of it now
EDIT: Where is Megaman Facing on the default view in BrawlBox?
digiholic
Smash Ace
He's facing left in-game, forward in Brawlbox. So, to see how it would look in game, just rotate the camera so he's facing left.
As far as the bones go, look for three bones named X, Y, and Z. All the bones after that are the animating ones. No idea what the other hundred-something do.
As far as the bones go, look for three bones named X, Y, and Z. All the bones after that are the animating ones. No idea what the other hundred-something do.
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
I'm already trying out doing the WalkSlow animation, basing the frames of Sonic
What bone is the one controlling the lower half of his body? Also the knees?
I kinda almost got it lol
What bone is the one controlling the lower half of his body? Also the knees?
I kinda almost got it lol
digiholic
Smash Ace
Hleg and Lleg are the thigh and knee bones, respectively.
.Fade
Smash Journeyman
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Coming from someone who played Megaman Legends as a kid and mains Volnutt in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, I am very, very excited for this project. =D
Let's see...well, since there's no canon upwards shield movement, I guess you could be creative with the Up-B. Maybe a cypher type move or something, using the shield as an upwards parachute XD
Let's see...well, since there's no canon upwards shield movement, I guess you could be creative with the Up-B. Maybe a cypher type move or something, using the shield as an upwards parachute XD
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
How did fortwaffles scale the model BTW? I just wanna know, while doing that, i'm working on the walk and i'm not sure if I should modify the Translation yet
EDIT: >.< Walking animation is too hard lol, I think I should start on the small things first
Will try to do Guard
EDIT2: I used SonicMotionEtc, is that okay?
EDIT4: I made my own Wait1, also Guard (from Wait1 transition), GuardOn, and GuardDamage (no Guard Off yet though)
EDIT: >.< Walking animation is too hard lol, I think I should start on the small things first
Will try to do Guard
EDIT2: I used SonicMotionEtc, is that okay?
EDIT4: I made my own Wait1, also Guard (from Wait1 transition), GuardOn, and GuardDamage (no Guard Off yet though)
Kit Cal-N
Smash Ace
I'd make his up-B a Shoryuken followed by a buster shot upwards. But, I my favorite character in MvC2 was Cyclops...
KuroBit
Smash Apprentice
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Oh, so you've been trying to rip the animations from TvC too? I should probably share what I've found and maybe you can get a bit further then I did...
I've been trying to break down the .mot files (which I'm guessing stands for Motion), and I think their file structure is a bit similar to ARC/PAC files, because with some minor header editing (I have no idea how to do this properly) It opens with BrawlBox, and even has a folder called "AnimationData", but I'm unable to open it.
I know TvC uses the same type of animations as Brawl, because you can find other animations in character effects and stages from TvC. But I think those need some editing too to work with Brawl...
I've been trying to break down the .mot files (which I'm guessing stands for Motion), and I think their file structure is a bit similar to ARC/PAC files, because with some minor header editing (I have no idea how to do this properly) It opens with BrawlBox, and even has a folder called "AnimationData", but I'm unable to open it.
I know TvC uses the same type of animations as Brawl, because you can find other animations in character effects and stages from TvC. But I think those need some editing too to work with Brawl...
digiholic
Smash Ace
Wow, this is why I don't animate, I can't get out stuff anywhere near this quality this fast (I haven't even finished the Wait1 >_<)
Regarding the picture, what did you do to the Drill Arms? If you scale any bones in their animations, the animation won't work on the vertex scaled model.
SonicMotionEtc will be fine, we can just export the animation and import it into ROB's.
I guess I could try to tackle the running animation, once I figure out how to get him to actually move.
Well, I couldn't crack the file types, so I'm just planning on making the animations from scratch using the games animations as reference.
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
Nevermind, double post ~.~
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
Hmm, well my Wait1 is only 1 frame for now, but I did get to make proper transitions from Wait1 to GuardOn, then Guard, Guard damage as well (I had to do it in Sonic's animation file but if it doesn't work ingame I'll just export the CLR0 file into Zakogirl)
The squat animation might need some tweaking, but I'ma send you the file when I get back from school :D
Regarding the picture, before animating, I just turn off all polygons first and flickered the parts I found basic and important. I did make a list on Notepad on which polygons are turned on lol
I forgot to mention that in my squat, I used a transition of the whole body to the ground so I'm not sure if it will work properly (if it doesn't though, I'll fix it up)
Another reason I didn't want to do Walk was because it wasn't scaled properly yet
The squat animation might need some tweaking, but I'ma send you the file when I get back from school :D
Regarding the picture, before animating, I just turn off all polygons first and flickered the parts I found basic and important. I did make a list on Notepad on which polygons are turned on lol
I forgot to mention that in my squat, I used a transition of the whole body to the ground so I'm not sure if it will work properly (if it doesn't though, I'll fix it up)
Another reason I didn't want to do Walk was because it wasn't scaled properly yet
....''''Nuclear432''''....
Smash Rookie
Can I help????I'm good at animations.
digiholic
Smash Ace
I just tested it and it seems Kei_Takaro's animations don't work on the scaled model >_<
It might have something to do with the translations of the bones.
It might have something to do with the translations of the bones.
Kei_Takaro
Smash Lord
I think I'll just wait for the scaled model
Anyway, I can redo it on the scaled one, so yeah ^_^ no problem here
In another topic, wanna go join me in Project Gold Feather? =D
I'm sure we can team up to finish Volnutt and Chocobo