Luigi#1
Smash Champion
Was that for the prosecutor part? If so okay.I don't suppose continuing this conversation in PMs would be possible, would it?
Also, may I try my hand at drawing Gooey?
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Was that for the prosecutor part? If so okay.I don't suppose continuing this conversation in PMs would be possible, would it?
Four pages is already gigantic. I can't add another page.Essentially, although I was considering adding a 5th page for the avatar compilation.
Yes. The prosecutor part.Was that for the prosecutor part? If so okay.
Also, may I try my hand at drawing Gooey?
And like, are you letting me sign? Really, are you?
No? Well the other option is just as viable I guess.Four pages is already gigantic. I can't add another page.
Yes. The prosecutor part.
And I'd love you to try! Though I believe someone's done him...
Yes, and I thank you for doing it. SIgners are always appreciated.
Unfortunately, no. It's difficult enough getting this small enough with four pages. Having five would be impossible. I'll look into the other idea, though.No? Well the other option is just as viable I guess.
Good points.I don't think we need any avatars there. We already have the art page. We don't want to make this about us and we don't want to bloat the project so that he's overwhelmed. We want to show Sakurai that we appreciate all the work he's done, and if we start including too much about who we are then it makes it about us and not about him. We include the signatures and supporters as a way of showing how many of us there are, and the art as a tribute to his work and his characters, and a message from us as a group so he knows what this is and why we did it. We don't really need any more than that.
None from me.Good points.
Any objections?
It would be time consuming. I'm mainly worried about it making this too much about us and not enough about him.I really don't mind it or anything, if it takes extra time, though, we should leave it be if we don't have enough time. If we do, then definitely.
My apologies. Added........
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Signer's list please?
Might I recommend some revisions so that it is from "us" rather than a single person? I'd also change it to "from your overseas fans", since we are by no means representative of his entire fanbase (see: Japan).Okay, my message, signature, and Gooey picture:
Message:
"Dear Mr.Masahiro Sakurai.
Thank you, from all of the Smash fans. For never failing to bring excellent Super Smash Bros. titles into the world. Also, thank the amazing and talented development team, for their skills as well. I hope your arms are doing okay. You have created 2 amazing game series, Kirby and Super Smash Bros, and I feel Nintendo would be different without them. You also made the great game of Kid Icuras: Uprising, and we are grateful for that. You and the developers are truly skilled with games, and I congratulate you on that. Thank you.
A fan,
Luigi#1."
Signature:
Another bad picture that only has a chance if nobody else does Gooey:
MorbidAltruism? Is that you? What happened to your profile pic and Sig?I just wanted to say, I would never thank Sakurai. I appreciate his effort, but the real credit should go to Sora Ltd., the entire team.
He'll get to see how diverse his fans are through the art itself, since everyone contributing has different art styles. I think the concern is that by adding avatars it makes it about who we are, instead of making it about thanking him.@ Pacack - I think it would how him just how varied his fans are, and just a small portion of his fans over here.
That said, I would do the whole thing myself.
Tl:dr, anyone in this thread saying that Sakurai doesn't deserve thanks is wasting their time and ours for no good reason.He'll get to see how diverse his fans are through the art itself, since everyone contributing has different art styles. I think the concern is that by adding avatars it makes it about who we are, instead of making it about thanking him.
Also, I don't see why it's necessary for people to pop in here to say "nah, I don't want to thank Sakurai." Sure, suggest that other people also made Smash possible, that's true. But when the purpose of the thread is to show gratitude, your posts about "sakurai doesn't need thanks" are useful to no one. You don't want to show thanks? Ok, well don't.
Lastly, I want to point out that the developing team of each Smash game has been for the most part fluid. Sora itself didn't exist for Smash 64 and Melee. As someone explained before me, the main constant is Sakurai whose vision is the one each team is recreating. Yes, it's true that no man is an island and all the work in Smash is the result of the team, but I don't think people understand the idea of a Director. Or maybe people just want to be contrarians as an excuse to not show gratitude or lift a finger, in which case, again, the comments are useless.
I don't understand why you cannot comprehend that notion that some of us don't really care about his condition; he was contracted to perform, I am a consumer, I purchase his content. If you don't like it, make a post on a forum....He'll get to see how diverse his fans are through the art itself, since everyone contributing has different art styles. I think the concern is that by adding avatars it makes it about who we are, instead of making it about thanking him.
Also, I don't see why it's necessary for people to pop in here to say "nah, I don't want to thank Sakurai." Sure, suggest that other people also made Smash possible, that's true. But when the purpose of the thread is to show gratitude, your posts about "sakurai doesn't need thanks" are useful to no one. You don't want to show thanks? Ok, well don't.
Lastly, I want to point out that the developing team of each Smash game has been for the most part fluid. Sora itself didn't exist for Smash 64 and Melee. As someone explained before me, the main constant is Sakurai whose vision is the one each team is recreating. Yes, it's true that no man is an island and all the work in Smash is the result of the team, but I don't think people understand the idea of a Director. Or maybe people just want to be contrarians as an excuse to not show gratitude or lift a finger, in which case, again, the comments are useless.
Likewise, I can't see why some people don't seem to understand that we do care about his condition.I don't understand why you cannot comprehend that notion that some of us don't really care about his condition;
*Looks around.*If you don't like it, make a post on a forum....
Now who said that? No one is saying the team doesn't deserve praise for the work they do, but Sakurai is the director. He's the one that's making this game - the other people there are resources he uses to do so. He's the one who is so determined to make this a great game that he is willing to damage himself to make it as perfect as possible. I doubt anyone else on the team has that kind of drive. THAT is praiseworthy.Sakurai's vision deserves praise, not the people who actually participate and make Smash what it is?
The only thing illogical here to me is people coming into the thread just to say they don't care to participate in it.That is the antithesis of logic; however, it is immaterial.
Preferably without people who disagree posting that they disagree all the time.If you want to thank him, by all means, do so.
I do understand; please allude to where I stated anything that might indicate otherwise.Likewise, I can't see why some people don't seem to understand that we do care about his condition.
*Looks around.*
Now who said that? No one is saying the team doesn't deserve praise for the work they do, but Sakurai is the director. He's the one that's making this game - the other people there are resources he uses to do so. He's the one who is so determined to make this a great game that he is willing to damage himself to make it as perfect as possible. I doubt anyone else on the team has that kind of drive. THAT is praiseworthy.
The only thing illogical here to me is people coming into the thread just to say they don't care to participate in it.
Preferably without people who disagree posting that they disagree all the time.
Never said that you in particular didn't - but you haven't been the only person to post here regarding what they see to be flaws in the project.I do understand; please allude to where I stated anything that might indicate otherwise.
Quite.Ah, I see you find my humor amusing.
I know what a Creative Director is - I just earned my Bachelor's Degree in Graphic Design, so I am well aware of the way that creative teams work. And as someone who has worked under a creative director, it is they who are molding and guiding the work to what it becomes. Yes, people like me do the leg work, but in the end, we're working towards their vision.No he isn't. The creative director doesn't make the game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_director
You're looking at it in far too literal a sense of the word "made." Did he directly create all the assets and animations and such? No. But it was under his guidance and leadership that the game became what it is, so he did make Smash in a very real and substantial way.I understand that he is a prominent member of the team; that doesn't mean that he "made" Smash. That is utterly fallacious and unfathomable. Again, this is merely a career for most people, you can believe they have all of the passion in the world, it doesn't change objective fact.
Likewise.I can do as I please; it is within my rights. I wished to express my opinion, if you don't like it, don't address it. It really is that simple. See, I don't pretend that I don't care, I care enough to respond to menial accusations. You don't have to.
And no one is saying that they are not worthy of the praise. No one is crediting it all to Sakurai. The thing is, we're not just thanking Sakurai for Smash here, even though that's a big part of it. We are showing him our appreciation of all of his work, which is why Kirby and Kid Icarus characters are being included prominently and separately from Smash characters.I don't. This is actually one of the only cases. I wanted to assert that I believe that Sora Ltd. is worthy of the praise, and Namco. The team working on the game. Accrediting the value of the entire game to the creative director is inherently fallacious; something I don't agree with, so I expressed my opinion. Get over it.
......................................................That was post number 666.........................................................Never said that you in particular didn't - but you haven't been the only person to post here regarding what they see to be flaws in the project.
Quite.
I know what a Creative Director is - I just earned my Bachelor's Degree in Graphic Design, so I am well aware of the way that creative teams work. And as someone who has worked under a creative director, it is they who are molding and guiding the work what it becomes.
You're looking at it in far too literal a sense of the word "made." Did he directly create all the assets and animations and such? No. But it was under his guidance and leadership that the game became what it is, so he did make Smash in a very real and substantial way.
Likewise.
And no one is saying that they are not worthy of the praise. No one is crediting it all to Sakurai. The thing is, we're not just thanking Sakurai for Smash here. We are showing him our appreciation of all of his work, which is why Kirby and Kid Icarus characters are being included separate from Smash characters.
Yes; I understand that, which is why I don't understand where our disagreement was.Never said that you in particular didn't - but you haven't been the only person to post here regarding what they see to be flaws in the project.
Quite.
I know what a Creative Director is - I just earned my Bachelor's Degree in Graphic Design, so I am well aware of the way that creative teams work. And as someone who has worked under a creative director, it is they who are molding and guiding the work what it becomes. Yes, people like me do the leg work, but in the end, we're working towards their vision.
You're looking at it in far too literal a sense of the word "made." Did he directly create all the assets and animations and such? No. But it was under his guidance and leadership that the game became what it is, so he did make Smash in a very real and substantial way.
Likewise.
And no one is saying that they are not worthy of the praise. No one is crediting it all to Sakurai. The thing is, we're not just thanking Sakurai for Smash here, even though that's a big part of it. We are showing him our appreciation of all of his work, which is why Kirby and Kid Icarus characters are being included prominently and separately from Smash characters.
To be honest, I don't know either at this point. '_'Yes; I understand that, which is why I don't understand where our disagreement was.
Signers scan their signature in, non-signers just have a list of their names.How does this work exactly, and what is the difference between signers and non signers? I'm not really sure.
Ok, thank you. If he sees this, In would like to be put on the non signers list, I would still like to say thanks to Sakurai for all he's done (wonderful troll for making Kirby, reinventing Kid Icarus and Smash bros).Signers scan their signature in, non-signers just have a list of their names.
We'll just do the signatures. Looking at the likes, it seems that it's the popular opinion.@ Glaciacott (hope I spelled that right) - I see your point. Just thought it might be a cool idea, when I used to be in 4-H it won us grand prize for showing gow diverse of a group of people can come together under something. But I do see your point, it was just throwing some ideas out there.
Although I still would do it myself if y'all are up for it. I'd like to contribute more than just my signature but I can't draw to save my life (least not on a computer)
@ Pacack - I'll keep putting out ideas so long as you're up to hear em.
Gladly!Put me down for non-signing supporter, or whatever it's called. He's made 3 great Smash games [and all his Kirby stuff too, I just haven't played any of it besides Air Ride (which was great)] and I look forward to the fourth Smash as well.
How does this work exactly, and what is the difference between signers and non signers? I'm not really sure.
Signers scan and post a genuine signature to be added onto the card. Non-signers are still mentioned, but in a generic font instead.Ok, thank you. If he sees this, In would like to be put on the non signers list, I would still like to say thanks to Sakurai for all he's done (wonderful troll for making Kirby, reinventing Kid Icarus and Smash bros).
I love it! In your case, since both are so good, should I keep both?Pit resubmission!
Gotta make good use out of all those new items and upgrades.
Good question. It's why I came to this thread right now.How long will phrase 2 last anyways?
Sure. I wouldn't mind if you tossed the first one though.I love it! In your case, since both are so good, should I keep both?