Was there one in melee? From Mewtwo of course.
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Project Mewtwo- Mewtwo v1.00 - WHOA VERSION JUMP. Moveset complete! Touch-ups begin!
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Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
you know I can't remember, and I'm too lazy to put in melee to check >_>
I just dont like it when a move always spikes, its use becomes more limited and almost no attacks are like that
taronmcgee
Smash Apprentice
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
im sorry but nooooooo i really disagree with that one there just fine i think
maybe a little editing yes but mewtwo with dair u have to time down air anywas with the whole flip and uair is just nice,and down smash was always powerful anyways
taronmcgee
Smash Apprentice
i take it u dont like ganon then...and ness..and dk....and snake well if u hit with the 2nd part of ovver air..
plus u gotta say mewtwo spike is kinda hard to hit with and it dont ALWAYS spike just likey lol
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
it's really easy to time, you have to time the majority of the spikes in the game anyway
dsmash is too fast and too strong, either slow it down or lessen the knockback slightly, giving mewtwo broken moves would ruin him, no one wants to fight an overpowered character
ganon and dk's dair are some of the few moves that always spike
ness' dair has a soft spot, dk's fair and sideB dont always spike, snake's fair has a softspot, please shut up
and mewtwo's spike is ludicrously easy to hit with, the timing is easy as hell
also
double posting and spamming "o"s does wonders to convey your point and showcase your expertise
geeze, I'm being a bit of a prick today >_>
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
Hi there everyone!
Don't fight over things, its easy enough to modify values so that if something feels off we'll fix it.
We'll try everything [within reason].
So yeah.
Don't worry about it, don't be petty, and don't argue. I motion to have all argumentative posts be ignored.
-DD
Don't fight over things, its easy enough to modify values so that if something feels off we'll fix it.
We'll try everything [within reason].
So yeah.
Don't worry about it, don't be petty, and don't argue. I motion to have all argumentative posts be ignored.
-DD
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
errr
you really need arguments to point out flaws in suggestions and refine ideas before actually doing them
unless you want to make and test every little thing, which is no where near the most efficient way to do things
you really need arguments to point out flaws in suggestions and refine ideas before actually doing them
unless you want to make and test every little thing, which is no where near the most efficient way to do things
taronmcgee
Smash Apprentice
its not brokein i mean come on ike have a 1 hit ko move (over smash) well not really one hit
but at around 20 its a one hit have u played melee lately look at his down smash..
and about his dair i just also gotta say look at ike.....
EDIT: wow dude first i though we was just have a normal little disagreement but now ur just being annoy i wazent trying to 'convey' a point just just hold o i understand ur trying to give idea but just leave it to the makers nobody cares if u think its overpowering if u really think its go ruin mewtwo edit him ur self not annoy everybody here..the only think we do here(besides the team) is just say idea and test the updates and befor u came it was peaceful and i know u go have sum smart *** coment to reply with but to not annoy the people in this thread i wont even reply to what u have to say
i wouldent call it fighting (if ur talking about me that is) just disagreeing and saying idea's
fighting will be name calling and other unnecessary stuff
edit:yea im sorry fighting online so stupid lol smart comments get to me..
taronmcgee
Smash Apprentice
im not seeing one...
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
*rolls eyes*its not brokein i mean come on ike have a 1 hit ko move (over smash) well not really one hit
but at around 20 its a one hit have u played melee lately look at his down smash..
and about his dair i just also gotta say look at ike.....
EDIT: wow dude first i though we was just have a normal little disagreement but now ur just being annoy i wazent trying to 'convey' a point just just hold o i understand ur trying to give idea but just leave it to the makers nobody cares if u think its overpowering if u really think its go ruin mewtwo edit him ur self not annoy everybody here..the only think we do here(besides the team) is just say idea and test the updates and befor u came it was peaceful and i know u go have sum smart *** coment to reply with but to not annoy the people in this thread i wont even reply to what u have to say
i wouldent call it fighting (if ur talking about me that is) just disagreeing and saying idea's
fighting will be name calling and other unnecessary stuff
edit:yea im sorry fighting online so stupid lol smart comments get to me..
I'm done arguing with you, espescially if you're jjust going to continue to compare the knockback of mewtwo's moves to the knockback of other characters slower moves
and people keep bringing up melee, you arent balancing mewtwo for melee, you arent adding him to melee
I'm merely trying to provide advice for balancing because if mewtwo is overpowered he'll fall out of use as soon as the novelty of playing as him wears off
people will ***** about learning to fight a new character, a new "top tier" character will be even worse
if you "break" mewtwo it's game over, once people stop they wont pick him back up after you nerf him later, you'll lose followers
make him decent now, mid tier, even over-nerf him if necessary and you can slowly buff him for proper balancing
ds22
Smash Lord
Or we go according as planned and let the people who play this decide if it needs nerf.
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
if you do that you risk people playing it, having fun wrecking with it right out of the box, then getting bored with it and just stopping rather than complaining
people dont complain all that often when they're winning with something or when they're bored with something, you'll get the most feedback if people want the character they love to receive slight buffs
people dont complain all that often when they're winning with something or when they're bored with something, you'll get the most feedback if people want the character they love to receive slight buffs
ds22
Smash Lord
Just let AceSe3don do the PSA and see where it goes from there.
taronmcgee
Smash Apprentice
one last thing this is not ur idea its theres if they want it like mewtwo from melee so be it
u hold no power... case closed
taronmcgee
Smash Apprentice
yes i agree
b2j135
Da Bess Pit
ok...how do I add these new sounds?
"1- Open up the four rwsd files and the brsar in a hex editor (HxD preferebally.).
2- Copy the data in the rwsd files, and paste write them into the BRSAR in these offsets:
Mewtwo: 1796E80
sc_selcharacter: 1CCACE0
sc_selcharacter2: 4C3B640
STGTENGAN: 27E4BC0
Test it out and enjoy!"
This makes no sense to me...can someone make a quick guide or something?
"1- Open up the four rwsd files and the brsar in a hex editor (HxD preferebally.).
2- Copy the data in the rwsd files, and paste write them into the BRSAR in these offsets:
Mewtwo: 1796E80
sc_selcharacter: 1CCACE0
sc_selcharacter2: 4C3B640
STGTENGAN: 27E4BC0
Test it out and enjoy!"
This makes no sense to me...can someone make a quick guide or something?
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
lolone last thing this is not ur idea its theres if they want it like mewtwo from melee so be it
whoever said I held power?
I'm offering suggestions, I've been following this so long I'd hate to see it screwed up in the very last stages
the creation always seems more glorious in the eyes of the creator, I'm just trying to provide objective criticism
people always want there creation to be good, to be amazing, and it always ends up resulting in something overpowered
I fear this might be the case with mewtwo
dont you think it would be more interesting if he were balanced, or even slightly under powered?
people would have to learn to play mewtwo, to delve deep into his playstyle and develop a metagame, if this is done then there wont be a need to worry, as a solid following of players will have been built (rather than people simply going "OH MAH GOD MEWTWO" winning matches with something op, and then stopping because op characters get boring) and buffs can come as needed
sinistersnakesennin
Smash Ace
TL;DR shut up
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
I'm just trying to give some advice
but I'm curious as to what purpose this post served? Did you honestly believe you're laziness would silence me?
I'll continue to make recommendations, all I ask is that they are listened to objectively
taronmcgee
Smash Apprentice
Matteron
Smash Ace
You understand this is an internet forum, you don't have to be so grammatically correct...iNF4C7 7ry 741king r3147iv3 1337!
sinistersnakesennin
Smash Ace
Balance issues will be sorted out in time. Now isnt the time to discuss them. Right now, making smooth animations that keep true to Mewtwo's style are whats important.
Matteron
Smash Ace
Ehh...having a functional character is important...
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
I'd rather speak in a somewhat correct manner if that's alright with you?
Press ctrl G to go to the offsets, then when you go to the offset paste write what you copied, so for example, if I want Mewtwo's SFX, I would do this:
1- Open up all the files in HxD.
2- Copy all the data in the Mewtwo file.
3- Go to the BRSAR, and press Ctrl+G, make sure you choose "Begin", then type in the offset.
When you go to the offset, PASTE WRITE what you copied, which can be done by pressing Ctrl+B.
4- Save the file and don't forget to make backup.
Enjoy!
~Shining Ace
ds22
Smash Lord
I can agree to both of you on this.
Suggestions can be made, but we don't always have to follow them.
ds22
Smash Lord
And tomorrow?I don't think I'll be working on Mewtwo today.
Period
sinistersnakesennin
Smash Ace
Hey, just to make sure, the mewwto model included in the 5.7 posted in the Brawlvault is the one with the renamed neck bone, right?
If it is Allah's willing, but I've limited my self to 2 hours a day, otherwise I'd be 24/7 on this PC.. Werkin awn MueToo.
I'm seriously confused now.
By the way, my Pirate speech has just started, expect what you don't expect.
And no I don't mean bad words or nothin
ds22
Smash Lord
Ai me maty.
But do you think that Mewtwo would be finished before the 7th of August?
I'm on vacation between the 7th till the 15th of August.
But do you think that Mewtwo would be finished before the 7th of August?
I'm on vacation between the 7th till the 15th of August.
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[TSON]
Hella.
Sorry. I forgot.
Based off of DS's pac. Melee physics and whatnot.
http://www.mediafire.com/?8dlwqh7l0knzw28
Based off of DS's pac. Melee physics and whatnot.
http://www.mediafire.com/?8dlwqh7l0knzw28
ds22
Smash Lord
Nice.
Gonna try it later.
Gonna try it later.
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
I don't expect you to always follow them, I merely expect you to listen and give them some thought
ds22
Smash Lord
@TheSilenceOfNoOne
It feels good.
The Physics are amazing.
It feels good.
The Physics are amazing.
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
**** this feels awesome
oh and I forgot to mention, his shield is huge >_>
and I miss his melee dthrow animation D:
and his crouch looks awkward
he feels so much better with melee physics though, the difference is unbelievable
ds22
Smash Lord
The shield size is one of the 2 thing I don't like with the new Physics (the other is the character size with him being to small).
The rest I love.
The rest I love.
Laharl's_Wrath
Smash Apprentice
other than the shield size it is so **** awesome
but back to other stuff, you should up the ending lag on his utilt and dtilt, this would make them less spammable and more like melee
err, giving the dsmash a higher launch angle (like in melee) would also do a good job at balancing that without making it op
and perhaps up the range of his bair so he can space with it?
ds22
Smash Lord
That would indeed be handy.
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