Project M Social Thread Gold

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

I don't like fighting Porkey. He's so stupid with his death lasers and bombs........

 

[Raccoon Chuck]

So, I'm playing Sonic Before the Sequel etc....
Why can't I get the OST out of my head? Do need, must download....

 

[Saito]

I don't like fighting Porkey. He's so stupid with his death lasers and bombs........

I hate his rapid stab. It racks up damage like a madman.

Along with that laser. Sheesh.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Porky's rapid jab is DIable in this game, so just DI it before the strong hit comes out.

Duon ain't ****. Meta Ridley trolls so hard though.

Yeah, The key here believe it or not is to NOT shield against him. A few of his attacks will drag and/or slam the Falcon Flyer below the blast zone. If you're on the flyer during those intervals regardless of what you're doing, your character is dead and thy game is over.

 

[SixSaw]

Actually challenging tier:
Porky
Duon
Galeom

Somewhat Dangerous tier:
Ridley
Rayquaza

Free tier:
Meta Ridley
Petey Piranha
Master Hand
Crazy Hand

 

[Saito]

Yeah, The key here believe it or not is to NOT shield against him. A few of his attacks will drag and/or slam the Falcon Flyer below the blast zone. If you're on the flyer during those intervals regardless of what you're doing, your character is dead and thy game is over.

I had those problems in brawl.

While the advice is helpful I have moved on past that a long time ago. Now I just have to deal with his damage racking up shenanigans.


Or I could just ignore it entirely now that the entire achievement's page is open....



other than getting all the stickers....

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

So, I'm playing Sonic Before the Sequel etc....
Why can't I get the OST out of my head? Do need, must download....

And then go play Sonic adventure 2 battle. Best sonic game everrrrr.

I hate his rapid stab. It racks up damage like a madman.

Along with that laser. Sheesh.

Ugh that faking rapid stab........ Screw Porkey. Rayquaza however is mad easy

 

[Saito]

Actually challenging tier:
Porky
Duon
Galeom

Somewhat Dangerous tier:
Ridley
Rayquaza

Free tier:
Meta Ridley
Petey Piranha
Master Hand
Crazy Hand

Pfffft

Godmode tier:
Tabuu

Difficult tier:
Meta Ridley
Duon
Porky

Low tier:
Rayquaza
Galleom

**** Tier:
Petey Piranha
Ridley

Hand Tier:
Master hand
Crazy hand

 

[Gamegenie222]

On this day, thanks to Ganon's Usmash I have finally beaten intense mode.

That mode has too many shenanigans. Mostly metal ridley and Tabuu though.

I beat Intense mode with Fox laser camp and Up-air's all day every day. Thanks Project M for making Boss Battles easier to deal with with all of these meleefied characters.

 

[turtletank]

................................ what is this damage

Edit: I beat crazy hand in 4 seconds

what

the ****

Edit 2: then golden tabuu brackets happened

Edit 3: I got up to it again but P:M's hitstun makes getting hit = dead /tears

Peach's down smash. That is all.

 

[Saito]

I beat Intense mode with Fox laser camp and Up-air's all day every day. Thanks Project M for making Boss Battles easier to deal with with all of these meleefied characters.

That would of worked for me.

But HD lag TV + Tabuu waves is not good for a drawn out fight.

Peach's down smash. That is all.

What is flying bosses lol.

 

[SixSaw]

Meta Ridley is really easy. When he's idle, stand on the very back of the flyer and none of his instant attacks can hit you. When he goes offscreen, run to the front end of the flyer and jump.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I guess while we're on the subject: could any PMBR member or other knowledgable person shed some light on how air time of a jump is calculated/ what affects it?

In some testing I did, I was observing some weird phenomena like the character getting several more frames of air time when DIing to either side than with neutral DI, and slightly fewer frames but still more than neutral when DIing up.

Is there a way to calculate the air time in frames a character will get from a jump with just the attribute values like jump velocity and fall speed?

That is drifting, not DI.
Seriously. People need to be better informed and not confuse the two, or new players are going to have a hard learning how to actually DI.

 

[SixSaw]

Yeah I know, but people get what it means and it's easier to say.

 

[Ali Baba 177]

http://northwestmajors.com/
Why so expensive?? Is a big PM tournament worth it?

 

[DrinkingFood]

Yeah I know, but people get what it means and it's easier to say.

People don't get what you're saying. I had to re-read your post a couple times because it didn't make any sense until I realized that.
Drifting isn't exactly "hard" to say either. And It still will confuse new players if you use an acronym that means something completely different.



Dolphin is confusing me. I'm using frame advance in it, and all the inputs seem to come out 3 frames late? Like i'll input shield, or a jab, or a dash or w/e, and I have to advance three frames forward for the animation to begin. what gives?
The comp I'm using for it isn't powerful enough to run PM at full speed, but that shouldn't affect frame advance any.

 

[Saito]

Hey guys!

Let's talk about Project M for once!


What do you guys think this "quote" "unquote" "Cool ****" is going to consist of?

What do you want for it?

New characters?
New items?
New modes?
New....salt?
Fixed Subspace emissary?
Maybe new and original adventure mode put over subspace emissary?
Fixed Tournament mode?
Final smashes for the 3 pokemon?
....Buffed Mario Final smash? (pls ;_; )
Fixed Rotation mode?
More stages?
...Metal Mario by holding R?


Or even more things that I can't actually imagine.

C'mon I want to see what makes you hype.

 

[Empyrean]

Actually challenging tier:
Porky
Duon
Galeom

Somewhat Dangerous tier:
Ridley
Rayquaza

Free tier:
Meta Ridley
Petey Piranha
Master Hand
Crazy Hand

This man knows his boss battles...

Pfffft

Godmode tier:
Tabuu

Difficult tier:
Meta Ridley
Duon
Porky

Low tier:
Rayquaza
Galleom

**** Tier:
Petey Piranha
Ridley

Hand Tier:
Master hand
Crazy hand

...and this one doesn't. XD

My friend, Tabuu ain't ****. If you're incapable of sidestepping the offwaves, then forget about Smash.

 

[Bazkip]

http://northwestmajors.com/
Why so expensive?? Is a big PM tournament worth it?

...why do they have Brawl Fox on the small Melee pic?

 

[Ali Baba 177]

...why do they have Brawl Fox on the small Melee pic?

lol I didnt even see that at first

Hey guys!

Let's talk about Project M for once!


What do you guys think this "quote" "unquote" "Cool ****" is going to consist of?

What do you want for it?

New characters?
New items?
New modes?
New....salt?
Fixed Subspace emissary?
Maybe new and original adventure mode put over subspace emissary?
Fixed Tournament mode?
Final smashes for the 3 pokemon?
....Buffed Mario Final smash? (pls ;_; )
Fixed Rotation mode?
More stages?
...Metal Mario by holding R?


Or even more things that I can't actually imagine.

C'mon I want to see what makes you hype.

I dont think they can add more characters,, besides pichu. But modes like tournament mode would be of interest to me, subspace be cool too. Subspace could be pretty hype depending, but thats not what most people play PM for so I think ths most hype would be character changes and stage addition.

 

[Virum]

So, I'm playing Sonic Before the Sequel etc....
Why can't I get the OST out of my head? Do need, must download....

Because it's a wicked OST.

After the Sequel's is even better.

 

[Saito]

My friend, Tabuu ain't ****. If you're incapable of sidestepping the offwaves, then forget about Smash.

Son, We should wi-fi if you think that.

I'm down to prove a point that you can get wrecked by tabuu and still be good at smash.

 

[Bazkip]

lol I didnt even see that at first

I guess they went for looks over accuracy. They've also got SSB4 Pickachu on the 64 pic

 

[Saito]

I dont think they can add more characters,, besides pichu. But modes like tournament mode would be of interest to me, subspace be cool too. Subspace could be pretty hype depending, but thats not what most people play PM for so I think ths most hype would be character changes and stage addition.

You underestimate their power.

So @ Empyrean

How about it?
I may not know the Tabuu match-up well but I think I can handle everything else pretty well.
I was going to ask you eventually anyway, but this gives me a better reason to ask now.

 

[Shin F.]

I beat Boss Battles on Intense 3 times... in vBrawl, before I started modding.

Never again.

Let's see, I did it with 3 characters - Sonic, Toon Link, and Fox, in that order. Sonic made attacks stupidly easy to dodge just by using his spring to shoot himself above them, and then attack out of it. TL's dair was pretty much broken against them, and Fox's up special does a lot of damage if you're on them while using it.

Tabuu is one of the easier ones, since he's predictable. I always had the most trouble from Rayquaza and Porky. I'd have it as:

Challenging:
Rayquaza
Porky

A bit tougher than average:
Duon

Not hard at all:
Galleom
Ridley
Tabuu
Meta Ridley

Easy:
Crazy Hand
Master Hand
Petey Pirahna

 

[Saito]

I beat Boss Battles on Intense 3 times... in vBrawl, before I started modding.

Never again.

Let's see, I did it with 3 characters - Sonic, Toon Link, and Fox, in that order. Sonic made attacks stupidly easy to dodge just by using his spring to shoot himself above them, and then attack out of it. TL's dair was pretty much broken against them, and Fox's up special does a lot of damage if you're on them while using it.

Tabuu is one of the easier ones, since he's predictable. I always had the most trouble from Rayquaza and Porky.

Those waves tho.

 

[Saito]

try modifying your preferences

also now I'm playing target smash

wtf

Edit: someone beat my sheik score plz

View attachment 10710

edit: or you can beat my ike one: 13:85

Ike 13:31.

Wish I could show a picture ;_;

13:01 now

Gonna do it more to warm up while I wait for a reply ;_;

Edit : 12.78 now

Edit 2 : 12.46

Edit 3 : 12.30

Edit 4 : 12.18

Edit 5 : 11.78!!!!
That waveland cut down the time by .50 seconds. MMMMMPH

I don't think I could make it faster reasonably. Would just need better L cancels to make it happen.

Edit 6 : 13.21 with shiek. That waveland.

 

[SpiderMad]

@ KuroganeHammer how does one get a frame advance code btw

I linked you the .gct one a long while ago
http://smashboards.com/threads/frame-advance-and-debug-pause-v3-0.325693/

I guess while we're on the subject: could any PMBR member or other knowledgable person shed some light on how air time of a jump is calculated/ what affects it?

In some testing I did, I was observing some weird phenomena like the character getting several more frames of air time when DIing to either side than with neutral DI, and slightly fewer frames but still more than neutral when DIing up.

Is there a way to calculate the air time in frames a character will get from a jump with just the attribute values like jump velocity and fall speed?

possible, I don't believe. You're using Dolphin?

 

[Shin F.]

Those waves tho.

They're easy to dodge once you get the timing. When you see him about to do the waves, run to the very edge of the stage and do one of those dodges where you don't actually move from the spot you're standing. Once you get the timing right, it's really freaking easy to avoid those.

 

[Saito]

They're easy to dodge once you get the timing. When you see him about to do the waves, run to the very edge of the stage and do one of those dodges where you don't actually move from the spot you're standing. Once you get the timing right, it's really freaking easy to avoid those.

Spot dodge

I'd have to go into the subspace emissary to practice that.

 

[Hylian]

Streaming a smashfest including Metroid, Ripple, Darkatma and more!

www.twitch.tv/Hylian88

 

[Saito]

Streaming a smashfest including Metroid, Ripple, Darkatma and more!

www.twitch.tv/Hylian88

Sometimes I forget you're in the PMBR because you're missing all your old ribbons.

@ Warchamp7 is there anyway you can get this man back all of his glorious ribbons? ;_;

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

Hey guys!

Let's talk about Project M for once!


What do you guys think this "quote" "unquote" "Cool ****" is going to consist of?

What do you want for it?

New characters?
New items?
New modes?
New....salt?
Fixed Subspace emissary?
Maybe new and original adventure mode put over subspace emissary?
Fixed Tournament mode?
Final smashes for the 3 pokemon?
....Buffed Mario Final smash? (pls ;_; )
Fixed Rotation mode?
More stages?
...Metal Mario by holding R?


Or even more things that I can't actually imagine.

C'mon I want to see what makes you hype.

They can add whoever or do whatever they please. I just want my tourney mode back

 

[Empyrean]

You underestimate their power.

So @ Empyrean

How about it?
I may not know the Tabuu match-up well but I think I can handle everything else pretty well.
I was going to ask you eventually anyway, but this gives me a better reason to ask now.

Tabuu dittos on FD, best 4 of 7 set, scrub.

But, seriously, we're you gonna ask me eventually to play wifi, or am I misunderstanding?

Like the Wii wifi, or Netplay? I don't have both, unfortunately. I am hesitating if getting the wifi-safe set is worth the trouble. Is the lag that intolerable?

 

[Saito]

Tabuu dittos on FD, best 4 of 7 set, scrub.

But, seriously, we're you gonna ask me eventually to play wifi, or am I misunderstanding?

Like the Wii wifi, or Netplay? I don't have both, unfortunately. I am hesitating if getting the wifi-safe set is worth the trouble. Is the lag that intolerable?

I was going to ask you to play Wi-fi in the future.

Over dinner of course.

But yeah the Wii Wi-fi.

It's only as bad as our nets pretty much. It's intolerable with bad internet, but I know when I play with @QQQQQQQ7777777 sometimes we get matches that are so smooth it's almost like playing locally.

It's pretty frustrating though sometimes. It may not be worth it, but sometimes it's worth having a go.

 

[Warchamp7]

Sometimes I forget you're in the PMBR because you're missing all your old ribbons.

@ Warchamp7 is there anyway you can get this man back all of his glorious ribbons? ;_;

He can choose either his Back Room or PMBR ribbon, talk to him

 

[Comeback Kid]

Still waiting on someone to show up.

Spoiler

 

[KuroganeHammer]

@ SixSaw

www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity

@ Saito

Ty for bothering to beat my scores, those ones were my first try tho :>

also you're right regarding boss battle tier list

Tabuu still really hard, some of his moves are down right impossible to dodge such as golden brackets and the tether grab which both have silly range. Offwaves are garbage, I don't remember the last time I got hit by them.

I've completed boss battles on intense with every character in vBrawl, maybe I should try it again.

 

[Saito]

@ Saito

Ty for bothering to beat my scores, those ones were my first try tho :>

also you're right regarding boss battle tier list

Tabuu still really hard, some of his moves are down right impossible to dodge such as golden brackets and the tether grab which both have silly range. Offwaves are garbage, I don't remember the last time I got hit by them.

I've completed boss battles on intense with every character in vBrawl, maybe I should try it again.

Jesus, that's masochistic.

Is it wrong that the only problem I have with Tabuu is the waves? ;_;

The golden brackets are OP if they hit.
and that's a big if for me, whether or not it's Project M or Brawl. Most of the time I get fked over by the waves.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Well, the waves are pretty bad, I could probably dodge them with my eyes closed since there's so many sound cues and it's pretty rhythmic.

Tabuu is very inconsistent honestly, Brackets , tether grab are both pretty low risk high reward for Tabuu.

Laser is a pain to deal with too because most characters don't get enough air time to jump over it.