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Raccoon Chuck

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THIS. IS. THE. GREATEST

"I'm Knuckles...and you are too. No. He's the two of us together."-Big Non-chuckling Knuckles
& Knuckles
 
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Ah yes, my least favorite part about the April Fool's thing

Having to set my background back to PM style
 
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standardtoaster said:
new rick and morty ep just aired and it's absolutely incredible. they're playing the same episode over and over until midnight on adult swim
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It was a great episode but it replaced Samurai Jack's timeslot and I will never forgive this.
 
Raccoon Chuck

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Mansta said:
It was a great episode but it replaced Samurai Jack's timeslot and I will never forgive this.
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*Expecting them to actually air an episode of Samurai Jack on april fools day*
Bruh, you should have gotten the hard read easy.

Edit: Also, good news. My home is just about rebuilt, up to code and all, and I'll be moving me and my new little personal library back in 2 weeks from now.
 
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i've been on this website for 3 years and i still don't feel like i've learned anything about mech except that he likes robot anime.
 
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God, I ****ing love Jojo. I'm enjoying the hell out of part 3 right now. <3

I hope Part 4 is also good when I get to that.
 
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Does anybody know how to find the release points of throws on an X/Y axis? I am finagling with my knockback calculator/emulator and without them throw data would be wayyyy off.
 
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JOE! said:
Does anybody know how to find the release points of throws on an X/Y axis? I am finagling with my knockback calculator/emulator and without them throw data would be wayyyy off.
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check the Thrown animation in Brawlbox on the release frame. each character has a unique offset tho
 
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Kaye Cruiser said:
God, I ****ing love Jojo. I'm enjoying the hell out of part 3 right now. <3

I hope Part 4 is also good when I get to that.
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Hands-down my favorite. Trying to read Part 5 at the moment. 1's neat, Araki really hits his stride in 2, Stardust Crusaders is my favorite (but a lot of folks consider it the weaker part of the series, maybe because of the length), and 4 is pretty groovy.

The only good thing about the Stardust Crusaders OVA is the final fight between Jotaro and DIO. Personally I think that the way they present The World's ability is waaaaay spookier. I even prefer the English version. DIO's voice actor is just incredible in that. Check it out if you get a chance.

You're also not through with Part 3, so, spoilers of course.

Also Joseph is best JoJo. Johnny's pretty neat in a tragic sort of way.

 
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JOE!

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Strong Bad said:
check the Thrown animation in Brawlbox on the release frame. each character has a unique offset tho
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Ok, so on that frame it will have a coordinate, and then each character has an offset stored somewhere?

So it should be (release point +/- offset)
 
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JOE! said:
Ok, so on that frame it will have a coordinate, and then each character has an offset stored somewhere?

So it should be (release point +/- offset)
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Ya. Each throw has an x/y position, and then each character has a y-offset. I don't have that information anymore though.
 
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Strong Bad said:
Ya. Each throw has an x/y position, and then each character has a y-offset. I don't have that information anymore though.
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Welp, turns out Mewtwo's .pac cannot be read in BBox as a moveset file... anybody else run into this?

Edit:
I can still see the offset by comparing the animation and the data in PSA, but it is still sort of a pain heh.


For detailed reference on how to figure this out for others:

Throw animations appear to attach characters to the bone "ThrowN", which in turn is attached to the bone "XRotN". In PSA/BrawlBox, the frame that has the following line (or similar) is the frame that the foe is actually thrown/released:

[ Throw Applier: 0-0, 0-46, 5-20000002, 5-20000003, 5-20000004,]​

In Mewtwo's case, this is frame 42 of the animation. So, by going into BBox and seeing the coordinates of these two bones mentioned at this frame, we have the following data:

XRotN: X = 0 | Y = 8.459 | Z = 0
ThrowN: X = 0 | Y = 14.84731 | Z = 1.741

Something to remember is that ThrowN is attached to XRotN. So if set to all 0's, ThrowN is at XRotN's relative position. Adding XrotN's Y value to ThrowN's, we get a height of 23.30631 (units). For visual reference of what that height is, a Battlefield Platform (low) is 27.25 units off the ground.

Something to take note of however, is that under the Attributes of Mewtwo, his model is scaled by a factor of 1.3x in-game. SO with that in mind, we multiply the prior result by that factor to get a height of 30.298203, which I think matches what we see in game based on the Battlefield platform height and the exact frame shown here as Captain Falcon is thrown:



Mapping the approximate coordinate (30.30 rounded up) into my simulator, and I think it matches up rather well:


The only question now is, do we know what the Thrown Character's offset might be in this situation?
 
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JOE! said:
Welp, turns out Mewtwo's .pac cannot be read in BBox as a moveset file... anybody else run into this?

Edit:
I can still see the offset by comparing the animation and the data in PSA, but it is still sort of a pain heh.


For detailed reference on how to figure this out for others:

Throw animations appear to attach characters to the bone "ThrowN", which in turn is attached to the bone "XRotN". In PSA/BrawlBox, the frame that has the following line (or similar) is the frame that the foe is actually thrown/released:

[ Throw Applier: 0-0, 0-46, 5-20000002, 5-20000003, 5-20000004,]​

In Mewtwo's case, this is frame 42 of the animation. So, by going into BBox and seeing the coordinates of these two bones mentioned at this frame, we have the following data:

XRotN: X = 0 | Y = 8.459 | Z = 0
ThrowN: X = 0 | Y = 14.84731 | Z = 1.741

Something to remember is that ThrowN is attached to XRotN. So if set to all 0's, ThrowN is at XRotN's relative position. Adding XrotN's Y value to ThrowN's, we get a height of 23.30631 (units). For visual reference of what that height is, a Battlefield Platform (low) is 27.25 units off the ground.

Something to take note of however, is that under the Attributes of Mewtwo, his model is scaled by a factor of 1.3x in-game. SO with that in mind, we multiply the prior result by that factor to get a height of 30.298203, which I think matches what we see in game based on the Battlefield platform height and the exact frame shown here as Captain Falcon is thrown:



Mapping the approximate coordinate (30.30 rounded up) into my simulator, and I think it matches up rather well:


The only question now is, do we know what the Thrown Character's offset might be in this situation?
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****ing nerd
 
Bazkip

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JOE! said:
Welp, turns out Mewtwo's .pac cannot be read in BBox as a moveset file... anybody else run into this?

Edit:
I can still see the offset by comparing the animation and the data in PSA, but it is still sort of a pain heh.


For detailed reference on how to figure this out for others:

Throw animations appear to attach characters to the bone "ThrowN", which in turn is attached to the bone "XRotN". In PSA/BrawlBox, the frame that has the following line (or similar) is the frame that the foe is actually thrown/released:

[ Throw Applier: 0-0, 0-46, 5-20000002, 5-20000003, 5-20000004,]​

In Mewtwo's case, this is frame 42 of the animation. So, by going into BBox and seeing the coordinates of these two bones mentioned at this frame, we have the following data:

XRotN: X = 0 | Y = 8.459 | Z = 0
ThrowN: X = 0 | Y = 14.84731 | Z = 1.741

Something to remember is that ThrowN is attached to XRotN. So if set to all 0's, ThrowN is at XRotN's relative position. Adding XrotN's Y value to ThrowN's, we get a height of 23.30631 (units). For visual reference of what that height is, a Battlefield Platform (low) is 27.25 units off the ground.

Something to take note of however, is that under the Attributes of Mewtwo, his model is scaled by a factor of 1.3x in-game. SO with that in mind, we multiply the prior result by that factor to get a height of 30.298203, which I think matches what we see in game based on the Battlefield platform height and the exact frame shown here as Captain Falcon is thrown:



Mapping the approximate coordinate (30.30 rounded up) into my simulator, and I think it matches up rather well:


The only question now is, do we know what the Thrown Character's offset might be in this situation?
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Jared Fogle is a pedophile and that dril tweet is (presumably) a satire of the kinds of people who unironically come to the defense of people like him.
 
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