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[eideeiit]

21st century Rorschach

 

[Kushina43]

So I have friends that want to play Overwatch with me but I'm not really into shooters. I'm considering it anyway, but what do?

Try it out, Overwatch is different enough mechanically from most other shooters to potentially enjoy it even outside of traditional players. Worst comes to worst, avoid heroes that play similarly to other FPS characters (e.g. S:76, McCree, Widowmaker) and play more unique heroes instead (Winston, Genji, Zenyatta)

 

[trash?]

good afternoon, thread

I got fightin' words on overwatch. not particularly out of a strong hatred, but because almost every single problem contained in the game were problems already solved by TF2 years ago--but blizzard didn't actually pay any attention to tf2's specifics, especially in competitive. they saw that TF2's most popular casual maps were A/D control point, payload, and king of the hill, and they knew that a 6v6 scene existed, so that's all they built off of

payload and AD, at first, resulted in a lot of timestalling in OW--the most objective way to measure skill in attacking and defending is through a stopwatch format, which times how quickly it takes for an attacking team to win (or if they win at all), so people often give up at the last minute. this is something that TF2 players have known for years, and this is why these gamemodes are rarely seen, and when they are seen, the map requires heavy polish to survive long-term.

rather than try to fix the gamemode mechanics or the maps, blizzard decided the real issue was... the stopwatch. rather than try and rebalance the maps, they've decided that the reason those gamemodes don't work is the passage of time, so now they're doing this weird gimmicky mess that inevitably results in king of the hill meaning more than the other two game modes in tournament play, since that's the most objective game mode and so winning that guarantees victory

and I'd be less annoyed if that's the only example. when the beta was first released, they never expected people to ever want more than 70 FOV (which was immediately a bad sign); the scoreboard is a graphical nightmare which covers the entire screen, which would be less annoying if you didn't need to keep it up constantly to see when opposing players respawn; and despite the fact that the entire HUD is visually cluttered with energy effects and constant color overlays rather than anything useful, any form of HUD editing, no matter how minor, is considered to be a massive act against god to them. this is just the obvious ones, overlaying very basic do-nots that are within some classes

despite the fact that they desperately want to be like TF2, right down to the engineer that can build sentries with 200 metal, they never actually looked at a successful FPS with any depth, so they're tripping into pitfalls which every other successful competitive FPS has already solved for them, and rather than use the rope that's right beside them they're trying to macgyver a pair of boots and some springs

bees

 

[Player -0]

Player -0 If you're between 23 and 25, your collarbone fusing is supposed to happen, as it should with the sternum and spine. Ossification is cool like that.

I'm like 5

and I don't think it's cool

 

[Kushina43]

The only issue I've had with OW so far is how slow some characters get to the fray after spawning, otherwise I'm having an utter blast

Also:

very basic do-nots that are within some classes

I'd like some elaboration

 

[trash?]

there's small stuff like the pharaoh ult being super reliant on RNG, since sometimes you'll be positioned perfectly and then not get a kill thanks to the missiles going completely around who you were aiming for, but the big one is currently that things like an in-game aimbot/wallhack (which, I should stress, isn't in itself a bad thing, it can be neat in the right setup) makes a difficult concept of catching hackers all that harder. also, while it isn't class-specific, something which makes it worse is the tick rate (basically just a server's version of frames per second), because despite almost all notable FPS shooters running a much higher tick-rate, OW runs at 20 ticks.

there's a hack accusation involving a high end overwatch player pretty recently, and I genuinely couldn't tell you if the player was hacking or if he was just aiming a bit weirdly (which is something that a lot more pro TF2 players do than one would reasonably assume) and the server couldn't handle it:

like, it looks like he's locking on, surely? except a lot of TF2 players can back up that his aiming has always been odd and strange, and 20 tick rate servers cannot capture nuance in mouse movements, so there's no way of telling. that's a problem, because either you're actively screwing over innocent people, or you're letting people into online tournaments with an unfair advantage

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

good afternoon, thread

I got fightin' words on overwatch. not particularly out of a strong hatred, but because almost every single problem contained in the game were problems already solved by TF2 years ago--but blizzard didn't actually pay any attention to tf2's specifics, especially in competitive. they saw that TF2's most popular casual maps were A/D control point, payload, and king of the hill, and they knew that a 6v6 scene existed, so that's all they built off of

payload and AD, at first, resulted in a lot of timestalling in OW--the most objective way to measure skill in attacking and defending is through a stopwatch format, which times how quickly it takes for an attacking team to win (or if they win at all), so people often give up at the last minute. this is something that TF2 players have known for years, and this is why these gamemodes are rarely seen, and when they are seen, the map requires heavy polish to survive long-term.

rather than try to fix the gamemode mechanics or the maps, blizzard decided the real issue was... the stopwatch. rather than try and rebalance the maps, they've decided that the reason those gamemodes don't work is the passage of time, so now they're doing this weird gimmicky mess that inevitably results in king of the hill meaning more than the other two game modes in tournament play, since that's the most objective game mode and so winning that guarantees victory

and I'd be less annoyed if that's the only example. when the beta was first released, they never expected people to ever want more than 70 FOV (which was immediately a bad sign); the scoreboard is a graphical nightmare which covers the entire screen, which would be less annoying if you didn't need to keep it up constantly to see when opposing players respawn; and despite the fact that the entire HUD is visually cluttered with energy effects and constant color overlays rather than anything useful, any form of HUD editing, no matter how minor, is considered to be a massive act against god to them. this is just the obvious ones, overlaying very basic do-nots that are within some classes

despite the fact that they desperately want to be like TF2, right down to the engineer that can build sentries with 200 metal, they never actually looked at a successful FPS with any depth, so they're tripping into pitfalls which every other successful competitive FPS has already solved for them, and rather than use the rope that's right beside them they're trying to macgyver a pair of boots and some springs

bees

but

muhwaifus

(then again I quit playing "real tf2" a long time ago to specialize in prophunt and dodgeball)

edit: although really my true love of tf2 now comes from playing mini-sentry aggro engi

 

[Deleted member]

Whaddup thread

Somber Tuesday night so far, but I have a package coming in the mail tomorrow that I'm pretty hyped about so yeee

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Player -0 Well, okay, yes, that doesn't sound right.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I just got the pictures that were taken of my little mafia group from the wedding off of Facebook.

http://imgur.com/a/WIeG9

You know, I keep forgetting that I'm as dark as I am until I see a picture of myself. I swear I look lighter when I look in the mirror with my own eyes. ¦D;

 

[MechWarriorNY]

 

[ilysm]

Odd question here. Anybody down to swap a month of premium for some Steam money? Can't get a credit card, and I'm selling all my TF2 crap and I've got two keys that can be marketed pretty quickly for ~$5 total. I'm really just looking for a name change to my tag to avoid confusion between other websites and Smashboards.

 

[Kushina43]

..something which makes it worse is the tick rate (basically just a server's version of frames per second), because despite almost all notable FPS shooters running a much higher tick-rate, OW runs at 20 ticks.

there's a hack accusation involving a high end overwatch player pretty recently, and I genuinely couldn't tell you if the player was hacking or if he was just aiming a bit weirdly (which is something that a lot more pro TF2 players do than one would reasonably assume) and the server couldn't handle it:

like, it looks like he's locking on, surely? except a lot of TF2 players can back up that his aiming has always been odd and strange, and 20 tick rate servers cannot capture nuance in mouse movements, so there's no way of telling. that's a problem, because either you're actively screwing over innocent people, or you're letting people into online tournaments with an unfair advantage

Idk if it's in use in comp yet (I'd hope so) but custom games can set the tick rate as high as 60

 

[Player -0]

Odd question here. Anybody down to swap a month of premium for some Steam money? Can't get a credit card, and I'm selling all my TF2 crap and I've got two keys that can be marketed pretty quickly for ~$5 total. I'm really just looking for a name change to my tag to avoid confusion between other websites and Smashboards.

You can also join the PMS Buddies steam group and then ask there if you haven't

 

[ilysm]

Thanks for the heads-up, will do! Would the best place to do that be in the group chat, or...?

 

[Player -0]

probably the group announcements thingy that people sometimes maybe don't check

I don't know if anyone will actually see it

 

[TheDarkMysteryMan]

What does this mean gang?

 

[DMG]

10 minute ago, got 15,000 post count and Only the best is good enough trophies. Seems mad late, like Bowser Fsmash fully charged late

Who all is going to LTC? Let's meet up and share dank memes

 

[steelguttey]

its getting really hard to choose between madvillainy and the unseen as my favorite album of all time i cant stop listening to both

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

What does this mean gang?

I was about to ask this too since I just got this trophy all of a sudden. o.o

@Warchamp7 buddy, can you spill the beans on "Only the best is good enough"? o^o

 

[Saito]

O N L Y T H E B E S T I S G O O D E N O U G H B O Y Z

 

[PlateProp]

I'm tryna go to ltc DMG

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

rip i haven't gotten that one. i've wondered what it is for years

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

O N L Y T H E B E S T I S G O O D E N O U G H B O Y Z

Mind if I admit something incredibly odd and say that I actually get a big smile on my face every time i see you post or that you're online? :3

Or when I see your avy. ¦D

 

[Player -0]

I don't have it either.

Quickly stalk their profiles for answers

on the side note I've figured out how Project M/Smash 4 is rps

 

[CORY]

10 minute ago, got 15,000 post count and Only the best is good enough trophies. Seems mad late, like Bowser Fsmash fully charged late

Who all is going to LTC? Let's meet up and share dank memes

I'll be there, homie

 

[Player -0]

I confirmed my RPS comparison to Project M just now with a match vs. Plateprop

I knew he was a jank Squirtle player so I used balance patches to beat him.

more details later

Edit - Note, was first match vs. Plateprop ever

 

[Oddyesy]

hey friendos

 

[trash?]

I got an award for getting 1000 likes

I have just learned that there's a bit in your profile that shows likes received, and I have 11k

I am confuse

 

[Frost | Odds]

God damnit DMG why didn't you tell me you needed a partner asdfl;kaergjioarthn;jihathaertbadfa

 

[DMG]

Cause I had old school Smashers buds with priority (Vex one of them) that couldn't make it. Sorry Frost | Odds , ur Bowser is still Bae in my heart

 

[trash?]

no wait, now I got the 2500 likes? I'm confused, did an admin temporarily realize awards haven't been updated in years

 

[Life]

I was here to celebrate 1k likes and then trash ruined my fun. I'm actually at like 1300+. RIP

 

[Player -0]

no wait, now I got the 2500 likes? I'm confused, did an admin temporarily realize awards haven't been updated in years

same


also wiiztec is being a memelord again

 

[Grey Belnades]

10 minute ago, got 15,000 post count and Only the best is good enough trophies. Seems mad late, like Bowser Fsmash fully charged late

Who all is going to LTC? Let's meet up and share dank memes

I'll be there, homie

The struggle to reach 10K is real.

 

[shairn]

Haha wow trophies

I have also received the only the best one
WHAT A MYSTERY

 

[Bleck]

 

[DMG]

CEEE GEEE - DK wrap

 

[PlateProp]

God damnit DMG why didn't you tell me you needed a partner asdfl;kaergjioarthn;jihathaertbadfa

I see how it is ;-;

 

[DMG]

^^^

Every LTC I break Odds heart in some fashion.