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It's always a wonderful day to argue in the Cartoon Social Thread.


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What's this? This is not the Cartoon Social Thread? Surely, something occurred that gave the impression.
 

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Going to regret getting involved in this but

Racism just means discretion based on race. If you say racism against whites can't or doesn't happen, well that is by definition wrong. Racism doesn't directly have anything to do with opression, before anyone decides to counter with "whites aren't oppressed so you can't be racist towards them!" Systematic or institutionalized racism DO have to do with oppression. So if you want to make a claim, make that one. But if you want to talk about institutionalized oppression, a lot of it just stems back to the type of people who were raised to be simultaneously greedy, selfish, discriminatory, but motivated. So they became wealthy. Doesn't help when a lot of their money and worldviews came from their parents. And now we have a system where you can use money to buy politicians to pass laws to suppress voting and influence local politics. It already happens and is documented. The whole racism/discrimination discussion lacks pushing power because you're not going to change the minds of the extreme racists/etc who cause the problems nor are you going to make the apathetic (often corrupt politicians who will vote to gain money/position) care, instead you need to take the power out of the hands of those who will push their own ideals so they can't use money to push apathy in their favor. That should really be the focus of social movements, other stuff is nice but that other stuff is treating the symptoms when you could be treating the disease.
 

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What happened to not watching shows because they genuinely didn't look interesting to you? There doesn't always have to be a profound reason for something, it's a cartoon.
Of course everyone is free to do that. It's only a problem when someone makes such a bold claim as "X show/thing is bad" without giving an adequate reason so that people who disagree could at least understand that point of view. I know a guy who appreciates Capcom if only for the newer Resident Evil games, and he said Mega Man is stupid. He was at least considerate enough to say that it's just his opinion, but he never explained why.
 

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In response to this part;
The whole racism/discrimination discussion lacks pushing power because you're not going to change the minds of the extreme racists/etc who cause the problems-*snip*
and this one:
*snip*-instead you need to take the power out of the hands of those who will push their own ideals so they can't use money to push apathy in their favor.
One could also just kill those sorts of people. No one can directly cause problems if they're dead.
 
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Yeah, yeah, vicious cycle and all that, I get it, but hey, when someone does things unreasonably/can't be reasoned with, it's either them get forcibly stopped, or other people suffer.
 
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sacrifice the few for many sounds good, but it's not realistic in this situation at all; our sense of morality would shatter


this thread has been really ****ty lately.
 

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Bleck trying to say that racism against whites doesnt exist made me laugh my ass off

Someone's never lived in a predominantly mexican/black area
 

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Bleck trying to say that racism against whites doesnt exist made me laugh my *** off

Someone's never lived in a predominantly mexican/black area
Wait I assumed he meant that reverse racism doesn't exist because racism against whites is just plain old racism
he should've just said that.
 

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Yo playing ssb64 with keyboard is hard damn

Any of you play 64 on netplay hmu sometime when I'm bored in class
 

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I wanted to share this with you all.

LuigiMastɘr0 said:
I have a philosophical question:
if you had a goal, and your goal was to fail, and you succeeded,
did you succeed or fail?
Before we set out, I must insist on the axiomatic truth of the principles of causation and contradiction. All things real are inherently causal, and therefore cannot contradict existence. Anything that does not exist is contradictory to existence. There are two basic forms of a thing not existing: that it is potential, or that it is intrinsically impossible and therefore never has the potential to exist. Furthermore, for the sake of edification on this topic, we shall assume that by 'fail' you mean 'to fail in general,' or 'at all things' or any other way of framing the question that means success is contradictory to itself.

Prepare for the tautology.

The question is wrong because its language implies such a thing is possible.
'To succeed' cannot, by its nature, mean to fail, since then the action would not be success but failure. Success is not failure, therefore what the question itself implies is necessarily impossible.
Try to envision for a moment an object that is both wholly circular and wholly square. You may envision objects which have some components of each, but by taking on one aspect moreso, the other aspect must decrease.
Therefore, to be wholly circular and wholly square is, intrinsically, by the very nature of those terms, impossible.
To succeed at a goal to fail in general is metaphysically, intrinsically impossible.
This is because they are contradictory, mutually exclusive terms.
We may think of it in abstract terms, but there is no way to possibly give any example of it ever being even able to occur ever.
In this case, it means that there would be no such case that would ever exist where one would succeed at failing in general, because failing in general means to not succeed.
Furthermore, it is impossible to have a goal that contradicts itself. To complete the hypothetical goal, one must necessarily violate the terms of the goal itself, thus rendering it void.

"Ah, but the question is being posed, therefore it is possible for us to conceive of the thing, therefore it can happen."
That is false causation, and directly contradicts itself. There is no possible logical way to pass from the first part, the question 'being posed,' to the next, 'therefore it is possible.' The poser of the question is the one in error, the symptom being that they assert the question is right without proving so. In this way, they skip the crucial middle step. "The question is posed," then, "is the question correct?" if no in this case, then "therefore the question is wrong and it is not possible."
 

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It's an interesting idea but really only works well for pan shots which is pretty useless. Most of anything else produces strange artifacts and deformations except for the rare occurrence where it works well. I don't think it's worth it.
 

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Yep, I watched Jojo's and I'm watching OPM with it.
(60fps Sakura Trick tho)
how is jojo's with it?

It's an interesting idea but really only works well for pan shots which is pretty useless. Most of anything else produces strange artifacts and deformations except for the rare occurrence where it works well. I don't think it's worth it.
disagree.

sounds like you have the wrong settings.

typically ideal settings for SVP on anime requires that you have it set so that SVP doesnt heavily impact high motions scenes as much as panning and ****. This way the animation doesnt look heavily deformed or creates strange artifacts.

I've got a nice setting for my tastes and tolerance for 1080p anime and I havnt gone back since making my tweaks from the recommended anime settings.
 

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My point. It basically only works for very low motion scenes and pan shots, 99% of the time. Sometimes it gets lucky and guesses a scene right and it looks good.
 

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Just finished Genocide Undertale.

feels bad man
you monster

My point. It basically only works for very low motion scenes and pan shots, 99% of the time. Sometimes it gets lucky and guesses a scene right and it looks good.
that's what im saying

with the right settings, high motion scenes are either acceptable or look pretty good.

OPM's fight scenes have been fabulous with SVP. Consistantly.
 
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