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Let us all just note that even the saltiest of people from the region with the 2 best Roy players in the world doesn't think that Roy is #1. He's still stupid good, but it's silly to say he's #1.
i still understand that roy has issues vs DK DDD yoshi ROB. but yeah turns out if you take a well designed character and put a bunch of stupid **** on him, the character still ends up stupid. i thought we already learned this from 3.02 pit/mario?
 

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I think I rocked the job interview. I've been at my current job for so long that I forgot how stressful being put through so many questions is, even though I do most of thr interviews at my job right now lol.

I think I nailed it though. Looked daper, clean shaven, had most of the right answers, and I knew all the interviewers so I think I answered the right way to hit the right sweetspots. My eye contact game was pretty lacking, though tbh. Looked down too much while I was thinking.
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Hey guys, apparently the new FE game is getting rid of weapon usage limits.

They're also adding a new super easy casual mode where all units, if they die, are revived next turn. I think it's for people who just want the story stuff, I suppose. I'm not opposed, it's a new feature for whoever wants to use it.

Weapon usage limits are a little iffy though. Even if I like the general idea of not having to micromanage weapons as much, that kind of makes it so that there's no good way of balancing weapons... You just arm everyone with super nice weapons and use the best thing every time no matter what. Hopefully they'll have speed vs. power balance a little more than they already do, or make the better weapons more expensive or rarer to compensate.



That all makes sense.

I was wondering because some people from Chicago told me yesterday that they thought Roy was #1, and Pooch said that "Fox is barely top 10" which is... I just stopped talking to them about tier lists at that point.

Let us all just note that even the saltiest of people from the region with the 2 best Roy players in the world doesn't think that Roy is #1. He's still stupid good, but it's silly to say he's #1.
WHUT ok IDK about that weapon limit change but sounds very iffy in the game and if they are forging and brave weapons then it's gonna be crazy. Game comes out June 26 of next month in Japan so i'm gonna be up in Serene's forest lurking like a mug.

Also Grandia 2 is coming to steam.
 

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why is his recovery the least interactive attack since brawl minus? seriously, you can go watch lunchables and sethlon vs other top level players and they almost never get edge guarded.
You should let Dong know that he wasn't supposed to be able to edgeguard gimp me consistently at very low percents, very rude of him to ignore the rules. Especially as Luigi of all characters, imagine what a character who was really good at gimping, like, say, Sheik, could do to a Roy?

I could go on and on about various ways to do things but its pretty clear that you're uninterested in learning and set in your salt, and I'd rather not waste my breath.
 
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why is his recovery the least interactive attack since brawl minus? seriously, you can go watch lunchables and sethlon vs other top level players and they almost never get edge guarded. atm you basically need to hard KO roy and hes much better at doing it back.
It could be worse, it could be fully invincible and auto-sweetspot from half distance *cough cough*
 

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And by that I mean my birthday, fite me nerds.
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Gameplay-wise? Absolutely. Narrative? I think MGS1 is on par.

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Marth went up twice today and I didn't get him either time, simply by luck

I only need 4 more, man. (Marth, Ike, MK, and Lucario btw). I just wanna be ready for Wave 4.
 
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You should let Dong know that he wasn't supposed to be able to edgeguard gimp me consistently at very low percents, very rude of him to ignore the rules. Especially as Luigi of all characters, imagine what a character who was really good at gimping, like, say, Sheik, could do to a Roy?

I could go on and on about various ways to do things but its pretty clear that you're uninterested in learning and set in your salt, and I'd rather not waste my breath.
i watched both of those sets, you should go back and watch them too, drop bair killing at 90 is hardly a gimp by any means. any point at which you eat a drop bair you want to immediately up b again before he regains edge invincibility since he needs the invincibility to beat your up b. if you're getting killed by drop bair, thats because it actually killed you, since luigi has no way to prevent your subsequent recovery in that position without that invincibility. sheik cant do the drop bair the same way because you can come up inside the sweetspot pretty easily, i have to do ledge drop FF rising nair which is way worse. you also didnt edge guard him back at all, and i get that luigi can be hard to edge guard but you let him back for free way too many times.

dont get me wrong i definitely hate the character- because i studied him and looked for holes to work with attempting to learn the MU. if you choose to play correctly they are incredibly hard to work with or the margins are still a net loss.

and i played and 3-0'd dong with marth, a MU that is basically the same in what you're trying to do overall. dong is really talented and was playing really well at that event, but a player as good as you should not be getting lit up by ledge jump fairs over and over.
 

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Guys, be friends. I'm coming to Texas the week of June 8th and I want to hang out with ALL OF YOU. :drsad::drsad::drsad:
 

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It's lazy. Don't be lazy :sadsheep:

That is absolute marlaky. And I'll tell you why monkey flunker. It's dastardly, down right evil, that you feel the frazzle-rackin need to control people into your own crappity way. It's hogwash. It's balderdash. Gob dash it Warchamp stop being such a dipstick.
 
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We are, they love seeing us getting ****ed every new release
I already knew I was the PMDT's favorite pornstar.
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i have roy @ #3 in the tier list after fox and rob, but roy is by far the most frustrating to play against because its so obvious that he was just given a bunch of hilariously dumb gimme-buffs for no reason. why does dtilt tip sweetspot? why does up b trade with marth's full range dtilt (thats REALLY disjointed)? why is CF upthrow > knee @ 130 considered stupid but roy dtilt > jump > jump > bair kill is fine? why does his sweetspot out-prioritize his sourspot (almost everything in the game is sour > sweet)? why is his recovery the least interactive attack since brawl minus? seriously, you can go watch lunchables and sethlon vs other top level players and they almost never get edge guarded. atm you basically need to hard KO roy and hes much better at doing it back.

its very apparent that whoever tested this char horribly underrates dashdancing. if marth was even close to as good as roy in this game i would make everyone quit.
You should Shino stall with Roy to show people how noninteractive it is.
 

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In other news.

http://serenesforest.net/2015/05/12/fire-emblem-famitsu-leak-phoenix-mode/

Another radical change, although this time apparently not an option, is the removal of the weapon durability system. This change was already observed in previous screenshots, but at the time it wasn’t formally confirmed.
GAH! This has me seriously worried. I don't mind optional modes like casual of phoenix as I can just chose to play Classic.

But this is seriously crossing a line imo.

I can only seeing this turning out bad.

Please prove me wrong IS.
 

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In other news.

http://serenesforest.net/2015/05/12/fire-emblem-famitsu-leak-phoenix-mode/



GAH! This has me seriously worried. I don't mind optional modes like casual of phoenix as I can just chose to play Classic.

But this is seriously crossing a line imo.

I can only seeing this turning out bad.

Please prove me wrong IS.
It's weird to think about because you always want something really good like the Wo Dao to stay with you forever, but at the same time limitless endurance is kind of a radical change for the series, especially if it's forced
 

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You should Shino stall with Roy to show people how noninteractive it is.
Shiek basically dies if you grab the ledge, idk why you think something with no hitbox on the end is > Roy's which covers his whole face.
 

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Shiek basically dies if you grab the ledge, idk why you think something with no hitbox on the end is > Roy's which covers his whole face.
It has hitboxes when she disppears and reappears though... Hitboxes that deal 15% and can kill at really high %s.
 
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Guys, be friends. I'm coming to Texas the week of June 8th and I want to hang out with ALL OF YOU. :drsad::drsad::drsad:
me and sethlon get along fine and i like him quite a bit, i might hate roy but it's never personal- it's still just a game man. lots of people tell me they hate sheik all the time and that shes stupid and unfun etc etc etc and i just agree with them. making your opponents mad is at least a decent litmus test that you're doing what you're supposed to.

Shiek basically dies if you grab the ledge, idk why you think something with no hitbox on the end is > Roy's which covers his whole face.
i think he means to do ledge drop > up b to the edge over and over while playing as roy. which will probably actually work better than you'd expect since most people try to not challenge roy's up b at all, even if they could.
 

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i watched both of those sets, you should go back and watch them too, drop bair killing at 90 is hardly a gimp by any means. any point at which you eat a drop bair you want to immediately up b again before he regains edge invincibility since he needs the invincibility to beat your up b. if you're getting killed by drop bair, thats because it actually killed you, since luigi has no way to prevent your subsequent recovery in that position without that invincibility.
This might be true, if hitstun wasn't a thing. Getting clipped by bair even at a percent that doesn't push Roy too far away from the ledge to upB still generally leaves Roy in hitstun long enough for Luigi to simply bair him again. And I've nfc what you're talking about with "if you get killed by bair its because it actually killed you"

sheik cant do the drop bair the same way because you can come up inside the sweetspot pretty easily, i have to do ledge drop FF rising nair which is way worse.
Sure she can. Same principle; the first bair doesn't need to actually kill Roy, since it leaves him in hitstun long enough for sheik to follow up with something else. She can also ledge drop and dj bair and still be invulnerable. Or dj out far enough to bair Roy while he's sideBing and/or too far away to start an upB. Or fair him during that, or needle him during that. Or grab the ledge at the correct time force Roy onstage and hit him with any choice aerial. There are all kinds of ways that characters can edgeguard Roy offstage. Have you seen any single one of my matches with M2k?

you also didnt edge guard him back at all, and i get that luigi can be hard to edge guard but you let him back for free way too many times.
Sure. Tell me how Roy kills offstage vs Luigi and I'll be all over that. Fair certainly doesn't. Flareblade is possible, but very difficult to set up considering its start up. Bair has too short a range to reliably sweetspot offstage, let alone against a character like Luigi that can recover low and comfortably keep you away with strong aerials. Ledgehop sweetspot dair doesn't combo him very well, and tip doesn't have enough KBG or a low enough angle to reliably kill him (several times when it would have, he just misfired back to the stage).

dont get me wrong i definitely hate the character- because i studied him and looked for holes to work with attempting to learn the MU.
Thats funny, because all I've seen you do is complain about it. When you're not straight out forfeiting before we even play.

and i played and 3-0'd dong with marth, a MU that is basically the same in what you're trying to do overall. dong is really talented and was playing really well at that event, but a player as good as you should not be getting lit up by ledge jump fairs over and over.
I don't know why you're bringing this up, considering I also played against Dong at the same tournament and beat him at that one just as badly. And btw Roy would kill to be able to edgeguard Luigi half as well as Marth can. Luigi's entire recovery schtick is that he recovers from far but is pretty vulnerable offstage...out where Roy is rather bad at edgeguarding.
 

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It's weird to think about because you always want something really good like the Wo Dao to stay with you forever, but at the same time limitless endurance is kind of a radical change for the series, especially if it's forced
I can't wait to collect a bunch of rune swords!!!!!!
Fire Emblem couldn't get any less interesting between phoenix mode and infinite durability, I'm sorry.

I don't like the direction the series is going ever since skills came back.
 
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I can't wait to collect a bunch of rune swords!!!!!!
Fire Emblem couldn't get any less interesting between phoenix mode and infinite durability, I'm sorry.
I haven't even really read about Phoenix mode, but from what I gether in this thread you just get revived at the end of the turn? Wat. At least dismiss them from the rest of the battle or something. Are these forced in, or are they options? It would definitely help newer players ease in to the difficulty, but I like being frustrated to an extent. It makes you think things through, in a y'know, STRATEGY GAME
 

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I haven't even really read about Phoenix mode, but from what I gether in this thread you just get revived at the end of the turn? Wat. At least dismiss them from the rest of the battle or something. Are these forced in, or are they options? It would definitely help newer players ease in to the difficulty, but I like being frustrated to an extent. It makes you think things through, in a y'know, STRATEGY GAME
It's the mode that's made to be easier than casual mode, because people totally needed that along with DLC and renown. You've got the right of it-- you lose your character for the one turn that they lose in battle on. The items however it says is not optional to turn on or off like the phoenix mode, so it's kinda... uurrrgh.
Let me just get this infinite Sword of Seals like Ragnell wasn't overpowered enough, or Runeswords, or whatever else you can think of because some weapons in the series really don't deserve to be infinite usage.

Edit again : And yeah, that's on top of aaallll the retardedly crazy RNG skills that are in the game already, too.
 
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It's the mode that's made to be easier than casual mode, because people totally needed that along with DLC and renown. You've got the right of it-- you lose your character for the one turn that they lose in battle on. The items however it says is not optional to turn on or off like the phoenix mode, so it's kinda... uurrrgh.
Let me just get this infinite Sword of Seals like Ragnell wasn't overpowered enough, or Runeswords, or whatever else you can think of because some weapons in the series really don't deserve to be infinite usage.
Remember all the Legendary Weapons from Sacred Stones? A FIELD DAY would be had
 

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It's lazy. Don't be lazy :sadsheep:
Yeah right, any way to add an option to desactivate the censoring ?
Because I really want to talk about the Chronicles of Riddong while eating craptake mushrooms and listening to some quality grindcore performed by Anal **** and this feature of yours is seriously impairing my ability to culturally enlighten my peers.
 
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Sure. Tell me how Roy kills offstage vs Luigi and I'll be all over that.
you gave me a lot of content to go through, and i will, but i can certainly address this now. you're probably not going to land a clean kill move on luigi off stage, but there's nothing wrong with that. your job is to keep luigi from resetting to a neutral position for as long as possible and getting free damage. if you get a kill in there, great. but much more likely is that you're going to get a cool 40-50 "free" damage while luigi tries to get out of a bad position. as long as you have a positional advantage and a disjoint, you are still in a position that forces the opponent to do something great to get back into the game, and if you hit luigi back out over and over and he keeps making it back, this is still a very good thing since he cant interact with you back and is just taking damage along the way while still having a very real chance at dying. similarly, marth can edge guard better, but marth also has the marthiest case of marth syndrome in the game, whereas roy has no shortage of raw kill options. trying to kill luigi via edge guards is much worse than being able to just kill him.

either way i didnt mean to address the MU on the whole, but rather your set specifically since you brought it up. luigi is certainly obnoxious to deal with off stage but i dont think you letting dong back for free is representative of the MU on the whole. i make tons of screw ups all the time similarly but i try to separate it from the ideal and what it should look like if both players are playing correctly.
 

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