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DrinkingFood

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OOOOOOOHHH THE QUESTION MARK IS LITERALLY A RANDOM BUTTON, IT PICKS A RANDOM CHARACTER PAGE
maybe it'll take us to a hidden page for an unreleased character
 

| Kailex |

I smell like salty coins and milk
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Aaah, damn; my life is officially back, I missed the site (not you guyz) cmart tsundere mode
 

Hylian

Not even death can save you from me
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So glad Smashboards is back up for tomorrow :p.
 

Pwnz0rz Man

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Holy crap. It's back. I thought we were going to have to find another place to talk about Smash....er I mean Pokemon.
 

Cobaltium

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Site's back up just in time for a something I've been working on for months. Less than 12 hours to go! :estatic:

Edit: And just in time for my first post too!
 

SOJ

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Oh hey. I remember this website.

I'm so excited for tomorrow!
 

DrinkingFood

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Tomorrow's announcement: Demo 3.0 is going to be released... eventually!

Even if they give a release date I'll still be disappointed... it's not like I didn't know it was going to be released and couldn't figure out that it was anytime soon judging by the sudden appearance of announcements and media releases...

I'm really hoping for something cool like "Demo 3.0 WILL have all the characters present in brawl" or even better "We've perfected the clone engine!" Or at the very least "We fixed all/almost all the oddities in the brawl physics!"

It sure has been hyped up a lot for the one day they've had to do it so hopefully it's something a little more significant than "Hey, this is just confirmation of your speculation that we are, in fact, releasing a new demo soon!"
 

Raccoon Chuck

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This is great! I can only stand so much of the IRC's spam problem before I need to crawl back here. Anyways, I can't wait for tomorrow's reveal. Knowing the way you guys throw out awesome things makes me hype! And sorry Samus fans, I'm more excited for Yoshi at this point. :/
 

9Kplus1

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Long analysis, although the real kicker for Spinning being easier is Team Preview. You know 100% now whether they have a Ghost to block, and whether they have a Pokemon to comfortably take a non spin attack as you initially get in.
I wouldn't say that. Regardless of whether or not the presence of a ghost is known, Rapid Spin can be costly to carelessly use. If a team seemingly needs hazards, then, logically, it must have a way around Rapid Spin. Let's say your opponent revealed that their Tyranitar isn't bulky, but rather, Scarfed. Now, in addition to that, say your opponent carried the following Pokemon alongside Tyranitar: Lando-T, Forretress, Nattorei, Latias, and Stoutland. Clearly they're going to be making use of multiple layers of hazards here (Stoutland really loves them, and that could be Roar Latias), but don't have a spinblocker. Now let's say that you just double switched your Forretress into the opposing player's Tyranitar. Would it be safe to go for the spin at this point? Of course not. Even ScarfTar can afford to drop one of its moves for Fire Blast, which makes it a superb Forretress lure and Starmie trapper. Knowing this much, you'd still have to play that Forretress safely, as if that Tyranitar is carrying Fire Blast, you just lost your spinner against a team that excels with hazards up. The mental effect here is similar to the mindset influenced by the presence of ghost on a team that's clearly stacking hazards; you don't want to give your opponent that kind of--well, any--momentum and must try to play around said blockade. Team Preview does help a bit, I won't deny that, but it's always been ideal to get a feel for your opponent, as well as the team they're using, before going for a spin.

Nobody would (or should) resort to Foresight (in OU) to get around spin blocking so idk why you mentioned that.
Say that to the nice chunk of the tour players using Hitmontop and even Blastiose to great effect. Having a guaranteed spin is valuable for any team, and it's not as if the aforementioned FSpinners don't have any use outside of that. Hitmontop is a superb [CB]TTar check, and is a nice sponge for U-turns, which gives it nice synergy with more... defensive teams. I mean, Intimidate in general is always nice to have in higher tiers, softening up the abundance of physical attackers, consequently lessening the amount of pressure physical sponges / walls have to take. Similarly, Blastiose is capable of checking a few offensive threats, namely Gyarados, and can be equipped with one of two phazing options and the almighty Scald.

Dragonite without SR up is pretty beast too. If SR didn't exist, I think every team would carry him. I don't see why not, since the other team is literally screwed if they guess the wrong set or don't carry multiple checks.
Having frequently lurked and played in the SRless ladder, my opinion on Dragonite in this particular environment will remain the same. Dragonite is still too slow, not to mention that it needs a buffer for switching in to retain MS. Even Volcarona isn't hot **** thanks to the rather high population of stall teams. If anything, legendary, flaming, beautiful ALPHABIRD (aka Moltres), is a bigger threat than those two.
 

DMG

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How many tour players are actually using them in OU though because of Foresight --> Spin? Most of the time, if I see Hitmontop it's for reasons you listed, not for that specific combo (almost exclusively as a spinner that handles TTar safely, which is hard to find). I'm not against your argument that spinning is easier than people want to believe, but I certainly don't think Foresight has much to do with it in OU. Sure, in UU people go so far as to use more than 1 Ghost to get around that combo (which is pretty ****in troll).
 

Vashimus

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While Blastoise will always be playing second fiddle to Tentacruel, Hitmontop works pretty decently in OU. He'll practically always get hazards spun away, but he can be very easily worn down and not be able to do much else when too weak. It's the same problems Donphan suffers: having a spinner that's difficult to keep alive is often more of a liability than an asset, especially for defensive teams. Granted, Forry has similar problems, but it can at least lay down a crapton of hazards before it eventually bites the dust.

The SR-less ladder I also dabble in once in a while. Scarf Terrakion works excellently there as it just makes short work of Dragonite and Volcarona, and Moltres is indeed a massive threat (though luckily I haven't run into much besides my own), especially the Agility set, and it also has the benefit of checking Volcarona that don't pack HP Rock.
 

Shadic

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Anybody in #projectm wanna log the chat for me? I wanna see the hype unleash later on tonight, because I'm at work. :(

My hype is burning, but alas.
 

Meme

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Well a hint about the hint on the PM page has been posted on twitter, did the random button at the Character select page recengly get enabled?
 

Keatsta

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I'm thinking that from one of the character pages, the random button has a chance of taking you to a new character...

...I guess we'll see in ~10 min... if they're announcing what I think they are, though... no one is hyped enough.
 
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