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Pwnz0rz Man

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What was wrong with the "entire"last half hour of man of steel?

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"ben affleck was terrible in everything except (old movie), Argo and the town"
His 2 most recent movies had good performances? So... isn't that a good place to start your judgment on?
Man of Steel related stuff in Spoilers.
I'm going to assume that he's referring to the point in Man of Steel where the movie officially becomes disaster porn and everything is exploding, buildings are crashing, and Metropolis looks like a crater while Supes fights Zod. I personally found almost the entirety of the film to be wrong, mostly because I prefer a more human look at Superman and all we got was "You're an alien Kal El, here's some flashbacks to show you growing up as a human, but you're an alien and not a particularly likeable one.


Yeah, Affleck has been in some pretty good films recently. I think people look back at the horrible movies that he's been in matter of factly as if that means everything he does is awful. Sure, Daredevil, Gigli, Jersey Girl, Armageddon (to an extent) and Pearl Harbor were terrible and Affleck played badly written or just awful characters. But he wanted to play Batman, he likes Batman, so maybe he'll surprise and do a good job in the role.
 

Samovar

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So, ok, the other day I was wandering around on twitter and found out this thingy that seems REALLY suspicious: https://twitter.com/AGossipStone

At first I was trying to guess what the riddles were, but then I saw that post "I overheard that the new one might lack a specific supercharge", and saw the date, aren't these Project M riddles?

If so, is the last post about the new version? Weird ****...
 

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That is some weird twitter ****

KEEP IT TO YOURSELF YA FILTHY CASUAL

THIS IS LUDICOLO COUNTRY YOU GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE
 

DMG

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Here's all you need to know to be great at Gen 5

Rain

Did you win? Probably. If you lost, chances are they had Rain theme too.
 

hotdogturtle

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Here's all you need to know to be great at Gen 5

Rain

Did you win? Probably. If you lost, chances are they had Rain theme too.


So, ok, the other day I was wandering around on twitter and found out this thingy that seems REALLY suspicious: https://twitter.com/AGossipStone

At first I was trying to guess what the riddles were, but then I saw that post "I overheard that the new one might lack a specific supercharge", and saw the date, aren't these Project M riddles?

If so, is the last post about the new version? Weird ****...
How did you find this?
 

Vashimus

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Rain may be the best weather, but it's not like it's unbeatable or anything.

...that's the same argument people use to defend Fox though. Lol
 

Pwnz0rz Man

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Rain may be the best weather, but it's not like it's unbeatable or anything.

...that's the same argument people use to defend Fox though. Lol
That's true, but at least in Pokemon you can develop a team to hard counter and benefit from rain that an opposing rain team runs. How do you counter-pick Fox?
 

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hotdogturtle

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Rain may be the best weather, but it's not like it's unbeatable or anything.

...that's the same argument people use to defend Fox though. Lol
The problem (in my opinion anyway, and a lot of other people's) is that rain teams are generally better than non-rain teams. That doesn't make any sense; no-weather is supposed to be the "default" playstyle and weather is just some unique gimmick (I'm trying to use that word in the real sense, not the way that it often gets abused in this thread) that you can try as a change of pace. Obviously most Pokemon are not created with weather in mind; it's just a small group out of the total amount of Pokemon that can actually use weather legitimately. That's why I have a problem with weather teams taking over the metagame in gen 5. They may not be too good to be able to beat, but they're too good compared to how they should be in theory.
 

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Thank goodness this website is back, I've been fasting for 2 days in order to please the smash gods, in hope that they would save smashboards.
 

Vashimus

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There are some things in Gen 5 I like, some things I don't. Still pretty fun to me, but the power creep can be overwhelming.

If I could create my own perfect gen, it would be Gen 3 with a physical/special split. Because Stealth Rock pisses me off sometimes.
 

KayB

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I kinda wish that Stealth Rock didn't exist. It'd actually make Fire types at least somewhat viable.

I'm actually pretty excited for Gen 6. There wasn't a single Pokemon game that I played that I didn't like.
 

DMG

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No it wouldn't.
The benefit to Fire types pales in comparison to what Flying types would get. If SR were removed or changed to be completely neutral, Flying types would be incredibly better. My god I don't want to think about it. Already so many sweepers part Flying, immune to other hazards, frgrgrgrg

Like Salamence or Rayquaza or Regen Ho-oh need to live any longer than they do. Blasphemy
 

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Moltres, Dragonite, Tornadus, Zapdos, Thund-T, and Volcarona, are the only Pokemon that would get a notable buff in a metagame which SR doesn't exist (I believe the stats of the SR-less ladder show this pretty well), and they're pretty easy to handle, regardless of whether or not SR exists. The problems with the aforementioned Pokemon lie in their stats; Moltres, Dragonite, and Zapdos are rather slow, once you take into consideration what their intended tasks are; Tornadus is very frail; and Volcarona isn't going to find time to set up and comfortably sweep vs the average team (i.e, the player has to work for boosting AND cleaning with Urugamosu). Also, I think that people tend to underestimate spinning. It's pretty easy to spin in BW2 OU, thanks to rain, really (Starmie, Tentacruel), and the accessibility of every Foresight spinner in the game. That said, SR keeps a nice tight lid on stall, ironically, as it gives offensive teams an easy means of pressuring key defensive threats, such as Chansey and Jellicent, and punishing mindless switching without the need of risking the Pokemon currently in play. Defensive teams in general become much more skill-reliant and harder to successfully create with the existence of SR, which is really freaking good considering that new and veteran players alike prefer fast-paced games.

Also, Fire-type Pokemon were horrible long before SR was introduced. RBY prefers paralysis and freeze status due to critical hits being reliant on Speed and freeze status being permanent in that gen. Though Fire-type moves didn't thaw in that gen, burning a not-Golem/Rhydon Pokemon meant that the same Pokemon wouldn't be debilitated by doubtlessly more harmful status later on in the game. Sure, Fire-type Pokemon had good match-ups with key threats like... ok, I can't think of any, aside from Exeggutor and Jynx (both of which will be sleeping stuff, anyway), that are even in the slightest bit relevant. Moreover, Fire-type Pokemon in RBY are generally the same utility-wise; SD Charizard is an OK lead, but it shares the same premise as, say, Magmar, or Arcanine (warding off Jynx / Eggy leads while also breaking Chansey). Finally, and most obvious, is the simple fact that Fire-type Pokemon would attract huge threats like Amnesia Slowbro / Snorlax and Golem / Rhydon--and these are not Pokemon one should give any sort of momentum to.

GSC wasn't too kind to Fire-type Pokemon either, as the introduction of many more special sponges *cough*Snorlax*cough* made Fire-types more of a liability to have on a team. I think that the only remotely good one in GSC was Charizard (the only BDer that can immediately threaten Skarm), but even that turned up pretty bad once people realized how simple Charizard is. RSE continued this trend with the introduction, buffing, and eventual popularization of bulky waters. Blaziken is literally the only Fire-type that didn't struggle in RSE, as it, thanks to its marvelous dual STAB, could smash common defensive cores--and it has two extra moveslots to do whatever with, making it versatile enough for players to think twice before trying to combat it. IF ANYTHING, DPP buffed Fire typing thanks to the physical / special split, and the debut of Heatran and Infernape; it didn't make Fire-types of yestergen any worse than they already were. Then BW[2] gave us things like DroughtTales, Victini, Nattorei, and Hurricane Moltres, making Fire-types a tad more useful and threatening. I suppose that fan favorites like Charizard wouldn't suck quite as hard (it would still be pretty ****ty thanks to, you know, rain, sand, and its slow speed + defenses) without SR, but, again, keeping rocks off of the field isn't as difficult as people tend to make it seem.

tl;dr, Fire-type Pokemon suffered due to bad design, not SR.
 
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