Project M Social Thread Gold

[PMS | Tink-er]

It's actually about that time.

Infact, it has been for like a few months.

Requesting Mahou Shoujo

Spoiler

Or are you gonna let Tail outdo you?

All of my cereal boxes are saved on my laptop, which is still broken.

 

[Leafeon]

RIP me
I'll survive it next time

 

[Saito]

All of my cereal boxes are saved on my laptop, which is still broken.

#FreeCereal

 

[Rᴏb]

Anyone know where I can find this in a men's large? Or any shirt like it really

 

[Binary Clone]

you are mistaken

On an unrelated note, how much does Premium cost?

 

[Mansta]

On an unrelated note, how much does Premium cost?

Your weekends.

 

[Yung Mei]

got 4th place today losing to a bladewise and a roy player

kailex praise me or ill kick your ass

 

[Mariotehplumber]

Good job getting 4th thats almost 1st place.

 

[Vashimus]

When a top player you like switches from their long-time main to whatever's top tier.

 

[Mariotehplumber]

my main is Dr. Mario because he is ****ing amazing. It takes skill to win because hes a low mid tier.

 

[Bazkip]

ARMADA
IS
COMING
TO
CANADA

VWINS VS ARMADA
ALLY VS ARMADA IN PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKFJEHNFJEFEJHBE

Also apparently he'll be staying with KirbyKaze...am I gonna be staying in the same house as KK, Vwins, Kage AND Armada? wtfffff aaaaaaa I was not prepared for this.
I'll probably just end up cowering in a corner.

 

[Lizalfos]

Is strong bad just that frame data design God or does he Brawl hack?

 

[| Kailex |]

He doesnt do anything but nerf top tiers and rant about melee spacies; he is more than qualified to join the team.

 

[Lizalfos]

I hope Mango follows through on Falcon and M2K switches to Bowser for FD.

 

[Saito]

ARMADA
IS
COMING
TO
CANADA

VWINS VS ARMADA
ALLY VS ARMADA IN PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKFJEHNFJEFEJHBE

Also apparently he'll be staying with KirbyKaze...am I gonna be staying in the same house as KK, Vwins, Kage AND Armada? wtfffff aaaaaaa I was not prepared for this.
I'll probably just end up cowering in a corner.

If you don't make use of this chance, I will find you and I will wizard's foot you.

 

[Vashimus]

Spoiler: Me whining about Zora swimming

I was going to reserve my judgment on this until I actually played through the Zora sections myself on MM3D. Now that I have, I can safely say the change to the Zora swimming was a bad one.

So, sperg time it is.

I think most people can agree that Zora Link has some of the best swimming controls ever put in a video game. There are very few underwater sections in games can match the sheer fun and usefulness of that mask. It certainly wasn't perfect -- the super-fast Zora swimming wasn't the best for maneuvering around solid obstacles or very tight spaces, leading to more than a few head-bumps. So of course slowing the swimming down makes sense. It makes it easier to traverse those areas without getting frustrated. For people who couldn't adjust to the original speed, they appreciate the slow-down. And for people who liked it, torpedo-speed is still there with R. Problem is it uses magic, so going full-speed is entirely dependent on how much magic you have. While this does get solved by just coughing up the dough for a Chateau Romani, the fact that it takes magic in the first place goes against the entire design of the swimming areas.

Zora Link is a transformation that's pretty limited in its uses; although not quite to the extent of the Deku, he still only really shines in underwater areas. All of those water sections either involve

A: Large, deep bodies of water to traverse though (Great Bay, outside Pirate's Fortress, Pinnacle Rock)
B: Long, narrow tunnels that require little maneuvering whatsoever (Beaver race, Zora Moon Dungeon, Ikana River etc.)
C: Mix of both (Great Bay and Stone Tower Temple)

Just going through them one by one, it's clear the underwater regions were specifically designed with Zora Link's torpedo-speed swimming in mind. At full speed, Zora Link can cross vast bodies of water with ease, and quickly as well. When in narrow tunnels, he can jet his way through, and his mobility ensures you're not going to hit anything as long as you're paying attention. For C, it can get a bit tricky as you're combining multiple skills (dolphin jump in Stone Tower for the key, anyone?), but since they're mainly found in dungeons, those kinds of challenges should be expected.

Making Zora Link swim slower completely clashes with the design of the swimmable areas, as they were made in a time where they expected you to be able to swim at full speed whenever. Yes, it offers you greater control, but the times where it's really needed are few and far between. When you're just trying to get from point A to B like the majority of water sections, the slower swimming just makes it a massive chore, and thus takes away from the player enjoyment. No one is going to swim across Great Bay in regular speed if they can help it. It takes way too long in a game where time is already of the essence. Getting the Zora eggs? Much more tedious having to cross those large bodies of water multiple times.

"But hey! That's why they put the fast swim on R, right?? You can just go fast whenever you want!!"
Except you need magic.

"Just buy a Chateau Romani or stock up on green potions and bam, problem solved."
That's the problem. Magic now becomes a necessity when using Zora Link, as the game punishes you if you don't, with lengthy swims that eat up the hours of the Termina day, not taking into account other things I may need magic for. In MM, you could use your magic however you wanted: conservatively, aggressively, or not at all. By tying the turbo-swim to the shield, you're now forcing me to use magic on a regular basis as the Zora if I want to escape the boredom of the normal swimming.

"Well the Goron uses magic to spike roll and move at fast speeds, so it's only fair the Zora has that restriction."
You'd have a point if Epona and the Bunny Hood weren't in the game, two other means of fast travel on land not counting SoS, so you didn't have to use him if you didn't want to. The areas where Goron roll is required are no problem either because it uses so little magic in comparison, and when using him in Termina Field he can just roll over bushes and easily refill his stock. Swimming as a Zora is your main method of traversing water regions, and usually the only effective one. There's no reason to make going faster come at a penalty.

"Just hating on the game because of one change, wtf just play the original"
What, I can't enjoy the remake too? I've wanted it for a while, and this is the only glaring change in the whole game I don't like. There are so many improvements made, but the swimming there just bothers the hell out of me. I'd would've appreciated being given the option to choose your preferred swim controls in the options menu. Then everyone would've been happy.

Despite all that ranting about one damn mechanic, trust me, I love MM3D. It's better in virtually every way. Buuuuut I'll keep the Virtual Console download on my Wii also.

Now time to sl-zzzzzzZZZzzzzZZZzzz......

 

[Bleck]

if you run out of magic as zora link and press R you still get a limited speed boost - the difference in overall speed between mashing that and having the magic to do the magic dash is negligible at best, the change doesn't really matter at all

that being said I feel like zora link's swimming and collision detection is glitchy as hell in the remake and it makes several sidequests and/or dungeons more irritating than they should have been

 

[Empyrean]

Also apparently he'll be staying with KirbyKaze...am I gonna be staying in the same house as KK, Vwins, Kage AND Armada? wtfffff aaaaaaa I was not prepared for this.
I'll probably just end up cowering in a corner.

Bruh you need to steal their knowledge. And kage and you should somehow convince armada to main ganon, just imagine all the wasted potential the destrektion

 

[Vashimus]

if you run out of magic as zora link and press R you still get a limited speed boost - the difference in overall speed between mashing that and having the magic to do the magic dash is negligible at best, the change doesn't really matter at all

Funny story, I went to the Pirate's Fortress doing just that. Then had to go back and get magic anyway because I needed to use the Lens of Truth to talk to the invisible soldier. Same with the (crappy) Ice arrows in the Temple.

Being forced to spend magic for the turbo is just incredibly annoying, but thank goodness for Romani.

 

[| Kailex |]

Im a fraud with my fav husbando now
@ Yung Mei

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Im a fraud with my fav husbando now
@ Yung Mei

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Im a fraud with my fav husbando now
@ Yung Mei

You will both did alone, at the bottom of the PMS caste system. Enjoi your stay.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

I beat all the classic mode goals in THU2. The hardest level was downhill jam. Scoring crazy high combos is easy when you get you multiplier up by spamming manuals and flip tricks and relying on a special grind for base score, but downhill jam is the only level in the game without a circular grind, so you can't rely on grinding for points! Getting 1 million points on Downhill Jam was way harder than getting 3 million on The Triangle.

 

[Bazkip]

Dang there was a rumour that Armada was also coming to LAN ETS in Montreal, since it's only two weeks after McSmashter, but it's not true

If you don't make use of this chance, I will find you and I will wizard's foot you.

I don't think I'm actually going to be staying with Armada and KirbyKaze lol, Vwins found housing and apparently neither of the other people going with him know who it's with. It's just that apparently he's good friends with KK so it's a possibility, but that's it.
Vwins and Kage are also from my region so I get to see them somewhat frequently.
There's just such a huge skill gap though that I don't even see how I could benefit from being absolutely destroyed by them...not to mention how I'm not particularly practiced in Melee.

Bruh you need to steal their knowledge. And kage and you should somehow convince armada to main ganon, just imagine all the wasted potential the destrektion

lmao but Ganon's garbage in PAL.

 

[Raphy963]

Hey guys! I'm new here and I was wondering if there was some kind of chat for Project M, like an IRC or something. I really want to get into Competitive PM, and I want to be the living sandbag so I can learn

 

[Bazkip]

Hey guys! I'm new here and I was wondering if there was some kind of chat for Project M, like an IRC or something. I really want to get into Competitive PM, and I want to be the living sandbag so I can learn

uhhh there's an IRC floating around somewhere but I don't think it's super active.

I notice your profile says you're in Quebec, you should join this Facebook group (and this one too). If you're in/near the Montreal area, we've got plenty of tournaments here.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Hey guys! I'm new here and I was wondering if there was some kind of chat for Project M, like an IRC or something. I really want to get into Competitive PM, and I want to be the living sandbag so I can learn

Welcome to the boards dood!
idk about a chat I just lurk here

 

[Raphy963]

uhhh there's an IRC floating around somewhere but I don't think it's super active.

I notice your profile says you're in Quebec, you should join this facebook group (and this one too). If you're in/near the Montreal area, we've got plenty of tournaments here.

I live around 6 hours away from Montreal, and I don't have a car nor the money XD So I mostly play Netplay for now and play against my siblings (Always better than a bot)

Welcome to the boards dood!
idk about a chat I just lurk here

Thanks :D

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Welcome, new person.

 

[Bazkip]

I live around 6 hours away from Montreal, and I don't have a car nor the money XD So I mostly play Netplay for now and play against my siblings (Always better than a bot)

Okay well I guess you won't be coming to the weeklies, but we've got a couple big events coming up, LAN ETS and Smash T'ill You Crash 5, so you should see if maybe you can get someone to drive you.

 

[Raphy963]

Okay well I guess you won't be coming to the weeklies, but we've got a couple big events coming up, LAN ETS and Smash T'ill You Crash 5, so you should see if maybe you can get someone to drive you.

I should be able to become a bit more active when I'm done with school My plan was to actually play on Netplay until I can attend real weekly events

 

[GP&B]

if you run out of magic as zora link and press R you still get a limited speed boost - the difference in overall speed between mashing that and having the magic to do the magic dash is negligible at best, the change doesn't really matter at all

that being said I feel like zora link's swimming and collision detection is glitchy as hell in the remake and it makes several sidequests and/or dungeons more irritating than they should have been

The Zora mini-dungeon at the endgame section is pretty awful if you can't consistently dolphin dive onto the platform. No idea why it feels so much more finnicky to do in MM3D. Overall one of the only changes I don't get (though you're right about tapping R to gain speed; it's still pretty effective). I find 99% else to be either negligible or good.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Story of my life

 

[Gamegenie222]

When a top player you like switches from their long-time main to whatever's top tier.

Pretty much how I feel with all the melee top heads who never played Fox switching to Fox like Armada. This will be me when PPMD goes 20xx and plays Fox and I been down this road with DEHF went Diddy in Smash 4 and now Fox leaving the bird behind .

EDIT: Also lol Capcom and maybe Sony having USF4 being on PS4 so nerds have to play on PS4 sticks. Please don't do this to GG XRD . http://shoryuken.com/2015/02/17/evo...urnament-to-run-exclusively-on-playstation-4/

 

[Draco_The]

@Eternal Yoshi
What happened with this?

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

It's actually about that time.

Infact, it has been for like a few months.

Requesting Mahou Shoujo

Spoiler

Or are you gonna let Tail outdo you?

Looking back at this IMG, I don't like the one for my pokemon very much. The quality (c pixels breh) took a hit for some reason as well. These are infintly better and make me regret my name change.

Spoiler

 

[MechWarriorNY]

 

[Saito]

Looking back at this IMG, I don't like the one for my pokemon very much. The quality (c pixels breh) took a hit for some reason as well. These are infintly better and make me regret my name change.

Probably because the one I got was a horribly resized one.

And even still. There's plenty of actual glaceon pictures that are top tier as well.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Allow me to fix this.

Hey, it's Pokemon discussion. Gotta keep it relevant.