Project M Social Thread Gold

[SpiderMad]

In the last version, the spin was more pronounced. In this one, it sounds more like the pound into the ground is the focus instead.

Yeah I don't think I like Marth's new sword sounds either

 

[MechWarriorNY]

ricky ortiz is mad cute

also, heres a short vid

my bud and i tryna one up each other in the offstage game

I instantly thought of this upon watching your video:

 

[Player -0]

Almost page 1337. I will become engraved in this thread in the best page. Besides "x" being the first number and "x+3" being the second.

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

j00 1337? (001!

 

[| Kailex |]

#FreePMSocial

 

[Yung Mei]

which onnea u babby gorls wan sum fug

 

[PootisKonga]

Pretty sure I'm now the laughingstock of the PM subreddit lol

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

What did you do poot? Link plox?

 

[PootisKonga]

What did you do poot? Link plox?

Against my initial instincts I tried to stir up some Fox discussion again. It went about as well as expected.

 

[KayB]

Spoilers of the results of Battle Gateway #6, Japan's Apex Qualifier (you can watch the stream archive of www.twitch.tv/shi_gaming):

Spoiler: Well then

Flash got third (lost to Kounotori and aMSa) and Kounotori got 4th (lost to Shippu and aMSa). aMSa got 2nd, but he took off the first set of GF. Gucci never showed up.

The winner was a peach player named Shippu. No one expected that lmao.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Against my initial instincts I tried to stir up some Fox discussion again. It went about as well as expected.

Can we like, ban this female from typing the words fox, falco, wolf and slippy??

 

[PootisKonga]

Can we like, ban this female from typing the words fox, falco, wolf and slippy??

Falco's not as bad, Wolf's fine, and I haven't talked about Slippy until just now

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Falco's not as bad, Wolf's fine, and I haven't talked about Slippy until just now

BANNED

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

Lmao I'm not gonna ban her that would be a gross misuse of my powers

 

[King of Hoboz]

Did anyone see Amazing Ampharos's post about simplifying how stagelists operate? Anyone think this could be used for Project M? Cause, I think it's even more applicable here than with Smash 4.

 

[Empyrean]

Can we give fox his smash 4 voice? That would be a good enough nerf, so many people would stop playing him on a dime, and hitting him will be so much more satisfying.

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

I think that instead of ignoring people on swf, you should be able to ignore keywords like posts referencing fox

 

[| Kailex |]

ayy @ PootisKonga , stop talking about fox and play smash 4 on the 3ds with me

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Now that I'm finally using smashboards on computer, I can safely say, I don't like them changes.

I think that instead of ignoring people on swf, you should be able to ignore keywords like posts referencing fox

???
we just making so she is perma banned from saying fox, falco, wolf, slippy and krystal's name. lets make it so she cant even discuss things about them or play as or against them as well. if she run into the in pools or bracket ggforfiet

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Can we give fox his smash 4 voice? That would be a good enough nerf, so many people would stop playing him on a dime, and hitting him will be so much more satisfying.

I don't know if I could play PM anymore if this became an actual thing in it. My standards and eardrums wouldn't allow it. ¦D

 

[Professor Gravy]

Falco's not as bad, Wolf's fine, and I haven't talked about Slippy until just now

So laser spam>50% combo the character is better than Fox? Don't you play Bowser?

 

[Empyrean]

Bowser crouch tho

 

[Deleted member]

i mean if you want to play a game that feels like melee and fox is god, that game already exists.

personally i like PM because after a modest 12 years in competitive top-level smash, i increasingly realized how flawed melee is every passing year.

i would prefer that we NOT immitate the bad and imbalanced parts of that game.

 

[PlateProp]

I want to replace fox's voice in my PM now

And when people ***** I'll just laugh

 

[Professor Gravy]

I realize that fox/falco need nerfs but don't nerf whats good about them or you make the people who main them have less of a reason to main them. like nerf things that no one cares about when they are playing fox/falco. no one plays fox/falco for their AMAZING tech rolls so nerf the tech rolls.

 

[PootisKonga]

I don't see Falco as bad for two reasons:
1. His shine combos are much more escapable due to the higher angle and knockback
2. His recovery is terrible unlike Fox's average

 

[Lizalfos]

@techs That even feels insignificant.

SDI multiplier of 20 on u-air maybe?

Edit: We could always give Fox Fire Bird

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

That even feels insignificant.

SDI multiplier of 20 on u-air maybe?

Edit: We could always give Fox Fire Bird

Why not just make Fox's Firefox more like Mozilla Firefox. The longer he's been in a fight, the slower and more laggy his moves are.

 

[| Kailex |]

fighting fox is easier than fighting falco, at least for me
and is it me or does bowser have some kind of armour in smash 4

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

EDIT: edited out condescending remarks

Re: Reddit stagelist discussion, I didn't agree with the original linked post and there's issues with it but they're explained other places
My basic philosophy for stagelists is that counterpicks are fun.
A larger stagelist allows for more intricacies and options in matchups and I think creates more interesting gameplay overall and I don't see anything inherently wrong with having multiple bans (3+) IF THERE'S A TIME LIMIT
Additionally, having a choice between various slightly beneficial counterpicks allows for even more interesting picks based not only on matchup, but on playstyles and other aspects or mindgames.

"but magikarp mental games with stage select detract from actual smash"

No they don't. They might force you out of your comfort zone but they make you adapt to different playstyles and settings, making you a better smasher overall and also proving which player is more well-rounded.
That being said, I'm not going to advocate any super jank stages being made legal a la delfino or vanilla ps1.

anyway that being said here's what I like with my totally uninformed opinion:
STARTERS (with standard 1-2-2-1 banning system)
Smashville (basically the most neutral stage, a combination between basic flat ground but also has the occasional platform to interrupt juggles)
Battlefield (nobody can be angry with nilla battlefield)
PS2 (aside from missle cancel spam, the two platform setup is a good balance between triplat and fd)
Redesigned Norfair (variant on 2 platform setup)
FoD (transfers between fd flat setup and triplat)

Notice FD is not a starter, as it's basically a cp in melee as is, and factoring in pm juggles and cgs, having interrupting platforms I think is necessary for a starter.

COUNTERPICKS (4 BANS but a one minute time limit [or smaller] on bans [ideally, 30 seconds max for bans and 30 seconds for picking])
GHZ (a cp and not a starter because of walls and how close the low blastzone is also because I don't like how overwhelmingly green it is, it actually bothers me)
Dreamland (in my opinion, too large to be a starter, also wind, although I really like the spaced triplat setup)
Yoshi's melee (too small to be a starter)
Yoshi's brawl (I feel like having the one large central plat is not the most balanced setup but it's still a legit stage especially now that the support ghosts are timed and have shyguys)
FD (no items fox only)
Wario's (super unique setup and small stage/blastzones make it an already-often-used cp)
Lylat (I hate this stage personally but it's a decent cp)
Skyworld (I also hate this stage but I play on it because it's good for weegee and it's a strong cp for some people so I want to have it in there, even if it gets banned often it offers options. The most questionable thing about this stage is the difficulty in telling where the platforms actually are in the clouds)
Distant Planet (this stage got more legit, it's not overwhelmingly large like rumble falls used to be, and it has a unique tiered platform setup which I think warrants its inclusion as an option)
Dracula's (this is a pretty contentious stage but I think it's fine. it has walls, a few moving platforms, and largish blastzones which means it definitely helps some characters which makes it a decent counterpick but not so much so that it should be banned)
Metal Cavern (This stage is the reason I made this list, because I love this stage and too many people say it's not legal. It has little walls you can walljump off, it has a monoplat setup, and the bumpy ground allows for some shenanigans with bouncing projectiles, and it's an overall small stage. It's definitely quirky but nothing that is gamebreakingly jank. Additionally, it's a pretty good stage for Ganon and with the increase of Ganon in popularity having this stage in rotation is a decent move, as Ganon is still a painfully mid-tier character and having this strong counterpick will either benefit Ganon directly if he plays on here or benefit him indirectly if their opponent bans it, leaving other slightly Ganon-favored stages open)
Skyloft (this is probably my most questionable inclusion. It's pretty quirky, kinda like metal cavern with the monoplat on one side and the bent floor. The only really questionable thing is the lack of visibility due to the walls and posts and whatnot)

Conditional counterpicks
ps1 (if you use the balanced version which I think is in tkbreezy's pack)
pictochat (if there's a version with that fixed left ledge [pmbr pls fix that])

The reason for four bans is because there's 12 counterpick stages. Assuming that of the twelve stages, about a third of them are more heavily biased towards the counterpicker, about a third are more heavily biased towards the banner, the rest are slightly biased to one party or the other or essentially neutral, including the starters.

As for the people who just want to play smash and don't want stagelists with frills, or the gamification of stage selection, that's why there's the time limit. It speeds things up and prevents over-analyzing the counterpicks. But, if you just want to play smash, and your opponent wants to play smash, you'll just go to Smashville anyway.
However, personally I believe that a larger stage list is better, and dropping stages from your stage list simply because people don't play it often is the worst sort of popularity contest. Additionally, a stage that is unpopular is actually a better counterpick because people are unused to it.

tl;dr: Larger stagelists allow for more variety in how matchups are played as well as being more interesting in general. 5 starters, 1-2-2-1 banning, 12 counterpicks with 4 bans and a time limit for banning/selection.

 

[PootisKonga]

Bowser does have slight armor in Sm4sh, at percents under about 75 lighter attacks won't make him flinch

 

[Lizalfos]

Shine doesn't do percent, just knockback?

 

[Yung Mei]

okay sluts who all plays puzzle and dragons
post teams

with

Assist
Multipliers from Lu Bu / Sonia Leaders, 3 colors means i can stall using other colors or use weak attacks (antikthera is pretty weak tbh, but dat devil subtype + leader skill) to stall for Actives
On floor 9, i usually just use King Baddie + Haku actives, her skill is perfect for this team with her skill being only Water/Fire/Dark orbs. On final floor, i usually use Sonia, Lu Bu, Antikthera Skills, my multiplyer drops down from 3 to 2.5 from Lu Bu BUT, Antiktheras leader skill is 5x Attack when at less than 5% HP, so its perfect for Lu Bu.

 

[PootisKonga]

Shine doesn't do percent, just knockback?

Shine does damage
Where did you hear otherwise?

 

[Lizalfos]

It was a suggested nerf, I'm not stupid.
P.S. Giving him firebird and falcon's tech would be great. Rolling with him could instantly kill you and if your shield breaks you instantly KO off the top like Jiggs.

 

[PootisKonga]

It was a suggested nerf, I'm not stupid.

Oh, my bad
But aren't damage and knockback/hitstun related?

 

[Lizalfos]

Oh, my bad
But aren't damage and knockback/hitstun related?

lol idk

 

[Deleted member]

i hate captain falcon

i wish shine had no hitbox and only reflected projectiles

 

[Lizalfos]

That character sounds more boring than 3.5 link umbreon.

Edit: I got it, Slippy Toad appears alongside Fox, if Slippy is successfully edgeguarded, all of Fox's "technology" (b-moves excluding firebird) fails.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

That character sounds more boring than 3.5 link umbreon.

Edit: I got it, Slippy Toad appears alongside Fox, if Slippy is successfully edgeguarded, all of Fox's "technology" (b-moves excluding firebird) fails.

You is boring