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SpiderMad

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Can't: family's got a hold of the television at the moment

And how does Z jump affect it? I'm curious, is there more input lag or something weird, like how Z-DACUS used to reduce the frame window by 1?
Oh you set Z to jump? Ah =p

I was of the instance that you're one of the people who use Z for the Attack, like Y and Z; while you I guess use Z and A/C-stick? So you set grab to X or something?

Still do those early aerial challenges
 
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PootisKonga

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Oh you set Z to jump? Ah =p

I was of the instance that you're one of the people who use Z for the Attack, like Y and Z; while you I guess use Z and A/C-stick?

Still do those early aerial challenges
I was wondering what was going on. Yes, I jump with Z and use aerials mainly with the C-stick, though I could definitely try those challenges with A. My Y is set to Grab and my X is set to either Taunt/Footstool or, more recently, Shield for trying easier quick powershields
 

Binary Clone

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Oh you set Z to jump? Ah =p

I was of the instance that you're one of the people who use Z for the Attack, like Y and Z; while you I guess use Z and A/C-stick?

Still do those early aerial challenges
Dude I said I bind z to jump multiples times I thought I was going insane or something haha. I'll try those sometime though.
 

Blank Mauser

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I totally forgot to do the wolf thing, also I didn't post a match to Reddit, somebody else must have.

*Everybody super sucks at Squirtman though.
I'm not sure how known he is among Squirtles, but in my humble opinion from the Squirtle's I've watched the best one I've seen is Sir Skaro. He gave me a ton of trouble at Big House and played him in a very technical/flashy, yet threatening and practical fashion.
 
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~Dad~

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I'm not sure how known he is among Squirtles, but in my humble opinion from the Squirtle's I've watched the best one I've seen is Sir Skaro. He gave me a ton of trouble at Big House and played him in a very technical/flashy, yet threatening and practical fashion.
Yeah I know Skaro, I love that dude. He's definitely been putting in work and getting better.

We're all still bad tho
 

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Oh you set Z to jump? Ah =p

I was of the instance that you're one of the people who use Z for the Attack, like Y and Z; while you I guess use Z and A/C-stick? So you set grab to X or something?

Still do those early aerial challenges
What's wrong with Z set to attack now? :L
 

SpiderMad

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What's wrong with Z set to attack now? :L
Z can normally do Aerials, but it's also grab; and JC grabs if you do it too early.

Z SET to Attack I guess is better; and allows more proper use of the C-stick if you're going for Close to frame perfect early aerials. But I still believe it's inconsistent to get frame perfect aerials as consistently as X and A is, and I'd love for you to prove me wrong. But this all involves thus having to chose another grab button (unless you're gonna use Shield+A which is suboptimal).

Do SH Bair AC with Fox as many times as you can in a row like so (and record with phone)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixZR3-YiMw#t=90

This tests getting the aerial frame perfect (or close to it?), the other challenges will test your ability/method's towards getting the aerial frame perfect and doing another frame perfect action before touching the ground (given you did the first aerial frame perfect, otherwise you won't be able to do the 2nd frame perfect action).
 
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Z can normally do Aerials, but it's also grab; and JC grabs if you do it too early.

Z SET to Attack I guess is better; and allows more proper use of the C-stick if you're going for Close to frame perfect early aerials. But I still believe it's inconsistent to get frame perfect aerials as consistently as X and A is, and I'd love for you to prove me wrong. But this all involves thus having to chose another grab button (unless you're gonna use Shield+A which is suboptimal).

Do SH Bair AC with Fox as many times as you can in a row like so (and record with phone)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixZR3-YiMw#t=90

This tests getting the aerial frame perfect (or close to it?), the other challenges will test your ability/method's towards getting the aerial frame perfect and doing another frame perfect action.
I use C-stick for most of that stuff. I only use Z for aerial attacks to make combos easier. I have Z set to attack mainly for grounded attacks. And X is fine as grab.
 

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Roy's nair ledgejanking is a thing thanks to @ SpiderMad SpiderMad
grazie
You're starting a new meta

(X , A , C towards ledge, repeat)

Would this apply better with characters like Charizard though? Like, as far as applicability goes.
 
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-and tomorrow I'm turning 20.
You made it past puberty. That's actually a bad thing, by the way.
Here's what you'll be doing mentally,(and on occasion) physically, and all on a daily, if not hourly basis.
 
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Ramz289

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Could you please comment what the name of each video should be after you're done watching any? Like in the video itself, or make a list or something; and any periods of time I should cut-out like him playing LoL.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7wGkq-0RxS3NR6tMouIolPK
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7x26W4D8ejP6vWrCOdPr8s1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7x44zkyz2mjoKc1Ok9_Eqt6
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7xRRJEvbhTp0DB_u1tbShZS
SHIIIEEET, DOOD!!
Damn *****, the first one alone is like 6 hours lmaooo!
Thanks man, i´ll write down time periods of the things you can cut out but it´ll take a while.

Roy's nair ledgejanking is a thing thanks to @ SpiderMad SpiderMad
grazie
You're starting a new meta

(X , A , C towards ledge, repeat)

Would this apply better with characters like Charizard though? Like, as far as applicability goes.
...¿Que?
 

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...¿Que?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b5...OekU6LS3_8w25A&feature=player_detailpage#t=26 I'll save him the trouble.


So anyway spider, how do you do it more easily with dairs? I find myself having a bit more trouble with that if I use the cstick to dair. (C stick rolling doesn't really work-- I wish Dx Also while making sure to fastfall? Like, jumping and inputting dair, fastfalling while hitting c stick left is kinda hard for actual application-- something that would take practice for sure.)
 
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Whoops, read "vectoring" as "wectoring" in your last post, because people are still defending that for some reason.

My bad. :alakadoof:
 

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Imo it feels like they wanted to try something out to replace DI. Horizontal vectoring is still a thing, so I'm not sure what they're up to.
 

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They tried to make it easier on the player and remove the thought of angular DI in order to let natural instinct kick in and be correct (that is, holding the stick towards the stage.)

Those of us who know how DI works have worked around that instinct, but the instinct is correct with this "vectoring" thing so that's the gist of what they're up to.

But it bugged probably because of wario's high aerial mobility.
 

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One time I was pooping at school, and there was another guy pooping in the stall beside me. He was mouthbreathing super hard the whole time, and was getting louder and louder until I heard but a splash in the toilet bowl. He was quiet then, but would just start up again until another plop was produced. We were the only ones in the bathroom this whole time, it was really awkward but hilarious.
4/10
You didn't do a super saiyan scream to outdo him
 

SpiderMad

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b5...OekU6LS3_8w25A&feature=player_detailpage#t=26 I'll save him the trouble.


So anyway spider, how do you do it more easily with dairs? I find myself having a bit more trouble with that if I use the cstick to dair. (C stick rolling doesn't really work-- I wish Dx Also while making sure to fastfall? Like, jumping and inputting dair, fastfalling while hitting c stick left is kinda hard for actual application-- something that would take practice for sure.)
I think at the time I just did C-stick down, C-stick sideways: in two quick hits each going back to neutral. Other than that I really need a decent webcam to record my hands, I've often been syncing my phone footage each time.

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Wonder how to squeeze this into my forum signature, I was at the brink of max things to add.
I need a video like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWYt8niWHzM&list=UUC_duOivBOekU6LS3_8w25A except I scream Donate

I eat hotdogs everyday to survive http://madtastey.blogspot.com/
 
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Learned something new about my friend. If you play smash, he doesn't put your name. He puts down your main...lol
 
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