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Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

ArcaneKitsune

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I really do wonder why they're keeping anything related to Star Fox under raps in terms of information for SSB4. Fox's custom moves are being kept secret for some random reason, and very little is known about the new Star Fox stage except for Sakurai's little excerpt on it.
 

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I really do wonder why they're keeping anything related to Star Fox under raps in terms of information for SSB4. Fox's custom moves are being kept secret for some random reason, and very little is known about the new Star Fox stage except for Sakurai's little excerpt on it.
Yeah!

Items, stages, Smash Run enemies, Star Fox veterans, the custom moves and alt costumes/colour swaps..

Something sure is fishy.
 

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Star fox 1 rep. Fire Emblem has like 4 or 5. And im tired of sakuri or whatever his name is puting in soooooo many copied forms of guy characters when really theres alot of female characters that have great movesets. We get wii fit trainer but not Krystal?. She has a way better moveset then the white yoga instructor. Sure i understand villager girl and stuff but thats what hes been doing the past female characters. Hes being lazy with them. Bring the hate yes i know i said that but its ture, Zelda and Shik are the same character y make them there own? Same with zero suit samus and samus. I think hes being lazy with the female characters just saying.
I don't think that's a very fair argument.

I agree that Krystal has plenty of move set potential, but you can't discredit other newcomers just because she isn't in yet. Wii Fit trainer's move set is incredibly unique, and it certainly works for her character. Saying that Krystal already has a better move set when she's not even included so far is a bit of a poor argument.

Also, in no way is Sakurai being, "lazy,' in this game, and in fact, he is working just as hard on these installments as he was on previous Smash Bros. games. He made the previously separated characters their own due to hardware restrictions on the 3DS. He had to do it if he wanted both of those characters to stay for fan appeal, and it honestly is a much better solution than just cutting characters that have absolutely no reason to get cut.
 

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I really don't understand why people say that the 3DS is limiting when it's, pardon me if I'm wrong, as powerful as the Gamecube apparently...

And Zelda/Sheik & the Ice Climbers were a thing back then. Unless the 3DS really isn't as powerful as the GC ?
 

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Day 5:no reveal not even a potd.....Well guys unless a direct pops up it's now just a suprise or she's hidden....
 

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I really don't understand why people say that the 3DS is limiting when it's, pardon me if I'm wrong, as powerful as the Gamecube apparently...

And Zelda/Sheik & the Ice Climbers were a thing back then. Unless the 3DS really isn't as powerful as the GC ?
It has the space capacity of the system, but not the graphical capacity. They've even mentioned that characters like the Ice Climbers were giving them trouble on the 3DS, so the transformations were too difficult to implement on to the 3DS successfully.
 

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It has the space capacity of the system, but not the graphical capacity. They've even mentioned that characters like the Ice Climbers were giving them trouble on the 3DS, so the transformations were too difficult to implement on to the 3DS successfully.
Oh so that's why...should've just made it for wii u but I could see why sakurai would
 

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I can imagine the Ice Climbers returning. Especially if we've got Rosalina, Olimar and possibly chorus men. But we're off topic now. Back to Blue Boobs.
 

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I can imagine the Ice Climbers returning. Especially if we've got Rosalina, Olimar and possibly chorus men. But we're off topic now. Back to Blue Boobs.
She's most likely gonna be hidden since I doubt will get a August direct
 

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She's most likely gonna be hidden since I doubt will get a August direct
Calm down, dude. Just because nothing happened at gamescon doesn't mean nothing will happen until release. We could get just another trailer like we did for Robin, Lucina and Captain Falcon without a direct.
 

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I thought it was 25?
That post was posted 26 days and 20 hours ahead of when Smash Bros for 3DS will be out in Japan.

26 days and 15 hours left right now

I think there will be 4 remaining new-comers as unlockables if the history will repeat itself with Brawl...

I won't believe if not any one of them is Krystal...
 

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That post was posted 26 days and 20 hours ahead of when Smash Bros for 3DS will be out in Japan.

26 days and 15 hours left right now

I think there will be 4 remaining new-comers as unlockables if the history will repeat itself with Brawl...

I won't believe if not any one of them is Krystal...
Who will be the Star Fox reps for Sm4sh? (In your opinion)
 

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Who will be the Star Fox reps for Sm4sh? (In your opinion)
That's a good question. It could down like this :fox:,:falco:,:wolf: or:fox:,:falco:, Krystal or :fox:,:wolf:, Krystal or :fox:,:falco:,:wolf:, Krystal. It's really hard to tell what we could get seeing as Sakurai enjoys keeping us Star Fox fans in the dark.
 

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All 4 if you ask ms if history repeats itself will get a new rep and not lose the ones that where added (example:falco was added in melee but moved on into ssbb and wolf was added)
But before and after Melee star fox had a recent game, although with the new star fox that shouldn't matter much anyway but we don't know if sakurai was informed about it
 

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It's a waiting game from here on in. I would rather not depend on Japanese gamers to leak the information we're so interested in, but it might come to that. Worse yet, if the past is any indicator (Star Fox newcomers traditionally have had relatively stringent unlocking requirements), Krystal may actually be the last character they get to on the roster. So even if the game launches, it'll take that much longer to get an answer.
 
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It's a waiting game from here on in. I would rather not depend on Japanese gamers to leak the information we're so interested in, but it might come to that. Worse yet, if the past is any indicator (Star Fox newcomers traditionally have had relatively stringent unlocking requirements), Krystal may actually be the last character they get to on the roster. So even if the game launches, it'll take that much longer to get an answer.
Honestly I feel like assuming all the star fox characters come back that krystal would be either a starter or pretty easy to unlock. And even if they were all unlockable Wolf would be the hardest to unlock, falco the easiest and krystal in the middle
 

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If Robin and greninja mean anything popularity isn't a big deal anymore, unique moveset potential is where it's at
For what it's worth, Robin was in as recent of a game as his competition (Chrom), meaning relevancy wasn't a problem and he was able to get the nod based on his vastly higher moveset potential.

Greninja's more worth looking at, though. X and Y were over a year away when he was decided on, meaning Sakurai picked him solely on moveset potential and distinctness from the rest of the roster. He was able to fall back on the fact that Greninja's games came out almost a year before SSB4 is getting released, meaning that unless something disastrous happened Greninja would be relevant then...and he was.

What we don't know is how long they've been talking about this new Star Fox game, or if there'd been a WIP release window for it two years ago. We know they've been tossing ideas around for years, but if they'd been discussing it more seriously back in 2012 and got sidetracked somehow, Sakurai could've thought Krystal would become relevant enough again to where her high moveset potential would make her worth adding to the roster.

It's a bit of a reach, admittedly. >_>
 
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Honestly I feel like assuming all the star fox characters come back that krystal would be either a starter or pretty easy to unlock. And even if they were all unlockable Wolf would be the hardest to unlock, falco the easiest and krystal in the middle
Please, no more "Win 100 vs matches as Fox!" requirements!!
 

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For what it's worth, Robin was in as recent of a game as his competition (Chrom), meaning relevancy wasn't a problem and he was able to get the nod based on his vastly higher moveset potential.

Greninja's more worth looking at, though. X and Y were over a year away when he was decided on, meaning Sakurai picked him solely on moveset potential and distinctness from the rest of the roster. He was able to fall back on the fact that Greninja's games came out almost a year before SSB4 is getting released, meaning that unless something disastrous happened Greninja would be relevant then...and he was.

What we don't know is how long they've been talking about this new Star Fox game, or if there'd been a WIP release window for it two years ago. We know they've been tossing ideas around for years, but if they'd been discussing it more seriously back in 2012 and got sidetracked somehow, Sakurai could've thought Krystal would become relevant enough again to where her high moveset potential would make her worth adding to the roster.

It's a bit of a reach, admittedly. >_>
According to Miyamoto, they've been working on the new Star Fox game for about 7 years now, including the transferred ideas from the Wii to the Wii U.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/06/e3_2014_shigeru_miyamoto_confirms_star_fox_for_wii_u

In light of this, I don't think Star Fox's newcomer issue necessarily hinges on relevancy.
 
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According to Miyamoto, they've been working on the new Star Fox game for about 7 years now, including the transferred ideas from the Wii to the Wii U.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/06/e3_2014_shigeru_miyamoto_confirms_star_fox_for_wii_u

In light of this, I don't think Star Fox's newcomer issue necessarily hinges on relevancy.
Right, it wouldn't've been a question for Sakurai and the developers themselves...but they'd have to think of the fans, as well. A character revealed for a franchise a full year before that franchise gets its first new game in ~8 years might stick out to the masses like...well, remember how well they took R.O.B. at first in Brawl?

It makes me think they'd hesitate on Krystal if she was an out-of-nowhere newcomer...which makes me wonder if the new game could've originally been scheduled to release this year, or at least close enough to SSB4 where it could mean something.

Just playing devil's advocate.
 

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I would think will get her also I should mention our Japanese friends sometimes can get it early
 

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Guys , since Namco is helping develop the game, they have a prominent rope in character selection (Pac-Man) and they developed Star Fox Assault, which had Krystal playing a prominent role, that's why Sakurai chose the Great Fox from Assault as a stage, a and that's why Krystal could be playable
 

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Guys , since Namco is helping develop the game, they have a prominent rope in character selection (Pac-Man) and they developed Star Fox Assault, which had Krystal playing a prominent role, that's why Sakurai chose the Great Fox from Assault as a stage, a and that's why Krystal could be playable
Assault was the last console star fox game, that's why it has a stage. I don't think namco has any influence outside of pac-man
 
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