Prejudices aside, if a few characters need to be cut who will they be?

[Vann Accessible]

Being realistic...

Lucario
Ike
Lucas
Wolf
Pokemon Trainer (reworked or otherwise)
R.O.B.
Snake

That's who I would say is most likely to be cut. I would be really sad to see Ike, Charizard, R.O.B. and Snake go, but it would be understandable.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Chrom seems to be the most requested Fire Emblem character on here.

Actually...

That's Ike.

 

[PikaJew]

I JUST WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I WANT EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER TO RETURN!
IT'S TOO HARD TO PRIORITIZE A ROSTER YOU FOUND PERFECT!

 

[Morbi]

Pokemon Trainer as he is tedious to balance/develop.

Most characters need:
Mario vs. Roster (39)

Pokemon Trainer needs:
Squirtle-Ivysaur
Squirtle-Charizard
Ivysaur-Charizard
Squirtle-Ivysaur-Charizard
Squirtle-Roster
Ivysaur-Roster
Charizard-Roster
Pokemon Trainer-Roster

After that, you have 4 models for one slot. A unique mechanic specific to Pokemon Trainer (fatigue) along with the ability to transform. An animation for Pokemon Trainer in every stage, and voice work for all 4 characters. So if Sakurai wanted to keep cuts to a minimum, it would be wise to simply cut Pokemon Trainer (perhaps for Charizard).

 

[NintendoKnight]

I JUST WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I WANT EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER TO RETURN!
IT'S TOO HARD TO PRIORITIZE A ROSTER YOU FOUND PERFECT!

Remember that Sakurai said that he will only cut characters if there isn't enough time to put them in.

And as of recent information, he's just trying to get the game out before the years end. I hope that's enough time for him.

 

[PikaJew]

Remember that Sakurai said that he will only cut characters if there isn't enough time to put them in.

And as of recent information, he's just trying to get the game out before the years end. I hope that's enough time for him.

That's what I'm worried about.
I hope it doesn't come down to the release date being pushed back, or sacrificing 3 or 4 characters.
Obviously I would prefer the former, but at the same time my heart couldn't take a push back.

 

[Morbi]

That's what I'm worried about.
It's going to come down to the release date being pushed back, or sacrificing 3 or 4 characters.
Obviously I would prefer the former, but at the same time my heart couldn't take a push back.

Sacrificing 3 or 4 characters... or just Pokemon Trainer... hmmmm.

 

[PikaJew]

Sacrificing 3 or 4 characters... or just Pokemon Trainer... hmmmm.

But Charizard... and Squirtle.... and a strange new love for Ivysaur I have only found since playing Brawl

 

[Morbi]

But Charizard... and Squirtle.... and a strange new love for Ivysaur I have only found since playing Brawl

Ivysaur is my favorite, when I actually play Pokemon Trainer, it is annoying that I can't just be Ivysaur the entire time. He is really fun.

 

[PikaJew]

Ivysaur is my favorite, when I actually play Pokemon Trainer, it is annoying that I can't just be Ivysaur the entire time. He is really fun.

The stamina thing is really annoying to me because I always grind it out with one Pokemon until I die anyways.
Unless a fire crate appears and I need a dose of Charizard.

 

[Shroob]

Still don't get the Lucas hate when more or less everything about Mother in Brawl revolved around Mother 3. New Pork City, the Boss(es), the music, heck, even the Franklin Badge, while in every other Mother game, was only ever important in 3.

Lucas is as much of a clone of Ness as Luigi is of Mario.


Also, no, Lucas was not promoting Mother 3 for sales reasons. Mother 3 came out in 2006. Brawl came out in 2008. The GBA was dead by then. Foresight would have been obvious that the GBA would have been making way for the DS at this point, so promoting a 'done' system would not have been intended most likely. The reason Lucas is in Smash at all, is because he is an iconic character to his franchise, nothing more than that.

 

[Morbi]

Still don't get the Lucas hate when more or less everything about Mother in Brawl revolved around Mother 3. New Pork City, the Boss(es), the music, heck, even the Franklin Badge, while in every other Mother game, was only ever important in 3.

I LOVE Lucas, I cannot even play as Ness and Lucas is one of my better characters, but I feel like he is one of the more ideal cuts.

 

[No Control]

Ivysaur is my favorite, when I actually play Pokemon Trainer, it is annoying that I can't just be Ivysaur the entire time. He is really fun.

I enjoy playing Ivysaur too.

On another note, to be honest I (as well as many others) was sure Toon Link was going to get the boot when this game was first announced, so it shows how wrong even reasonable predictions can be.

 

[Morbi]

I enjoy playing Ivysaur too.

On another note, to be honest I (as well as many others) was sure Toon Link was going to get the boot when this game was first announced, so it shows how wrong even reasonable predictions can be.

That wasn't a reasonable prediction... I am sorry. I dealt with so many idiots before Toon Link was revealed. I am sure you weren't one of them though.

 

[No Control]

That wasn't a reasonable prediction... I am sorry. I dealt with so many idiots before Toon Link was revealed. I am sure you weren't one of them though.

Well I think it was logically reasonable to consider him as a potential low-priority candidate... Although yeah maybe writing him off completely was a bit far.

And I didn't join this site until two days after TL was revealed so I definitely wasn't!

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Wolf, Lucario, Pokemon Trainer, Rob, Snake, Lucas,and Ike are all up for grabs. I don't think all of them will be cut but Lucario, PT, and Snake are most likely Imo. (all Sakurai/Snake biases aside) I like all of these characters ,but If I had to cut 3 characters I'd pick Pokemon Trainer just so I didn't have to cut too many other characters. But I like all of them so much!!! With my bias fully implemented id probably pick Snake and Wolf. Who wants to play as something as lame as a snake and a wolf anyways? This isn't nintendogs OR nintensnakes! But seriously Pkm trainer is a big chunk 3 in 1. I realize the FE trend of losing a character and keeping Marth but Ike actually has an original move set. Lucario has 2 or 3 moves SIMILAR to Mewtwo's but if you really look at it they are completely different. (and I like lucario more) So again, Snake, and Pkm Trainer and heck, for the purposes of trends lets have Lucario and Ike.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

People taking this way too personal

 

[Morbi]

Well I think it was logically reasonable to consider him as a potential low-priority candidate... Although yeah maybe writing him off completely was a bit far.

And I didn't join this site until two days after TL was revealed so I definitely wasn't!

As long as you didn't arbitrarily assume that Brawl's priority list was congruent with Smash 4's priority list, you weren't one of them.

 

[DoubleYooToo]

Still don't get the Lucas hate when more or less everything about Mother in Brawl revolved around Mother 3. New Pork City, the Boss(es), the music, heck, even the Franklin Badge, while in every other Mother game, was only ever important in 3.

Lucas is as much of a clone of Ness as Luigi is of Mario.


Also, no, Lucas was not promoting Mother 3 for sales reasons. Mother 3 came out in 2006. Brawl came out in 2008. The GBA was dead by then. Foresight would have been obvious that the GBA would have been making way for the DS at this point, so promoting a 'done' system would not have been intended most likely. The reason Lucas is in Smash at all, is because he is an iconic character to his franchise, nothing more than that.

I'd say Lucas is a great deal less iconic than Ness, because Earthbound is so much more popular than Mother 3. Ness is safe anyway, he's one of the more unique characters and he's been in every game.

 

[No Control]

This isn't nintendogs OR nintensnakes!

I would play Nintensnakes.

People taking this way too personal

This is a cuts thread. On Smashboards. It's bound to get heated.

As long as you didn't arbitrarily assume that Brawl's priority list was congruent with Smash 4's priority list, you weren't one of them.

I didn't. I did (erroneously) believe that the Spirit Train stage hurt his chances pretty drastically though.

 

[Hong]

Characters being cut:
Zelda, Rosalina, Sonic, Peach, and anyone else who enters the fray with Marth. That Falchion is sharp.

 

[Shroob]

I'd say Lucas is a great deal less iconic than Ness, because Earthbound is so much more popular than Mother 3. Ness is safe anyway, he's one of the more unique characters and he's been in every game.

Obviously, but he's the main character of the third game in a trilogy, which, in a series where it's 'done', I'd say that still makes him iconic. Moreso than Ninten at least.

And then we get back to how much friggen stuff was all related to Mother 3 in Brawl.

 

[PixelPasta]

I feel that five characters are in danger of being cut:





Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Lucas, Ike or Snake go.

If it were up to me though, I'd also cut:



But I guess those would be considered my own personal prejudices...

 

[Shroob]

I honestly feel like Lucas is the new Toon Link.... But if Lucas gets confirmed, who takes the reigns then?

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

I think less people would want Snake gone if they actually played Metal Gear.

@ Shroob : No one cares about Mother. It was a dope game and a dope franchise, but no one cares that much. Yea there is stuff they put in the game to fit the characters. They added crawling and eating while knocked out in the game for Snake, doesn't make him immune to removal. It is what it is, bro.

Also these removals are based on time constraints, not significance to history, uniqueness or any other bs made up on this forum.

 

[Shroob]

I think less people would want Snake gone if they actually played Metal Gear.

@ Shroob : No one cares about Mother. It was a dope game and a dope franchise, but no one cares that much. Yea there is stuff they put in the game to fit the characters. They added crawling and eating while knocked out in the game for Snake, doesn't make him immune to removal. It is what it is, bro.

Also these removals are based on time constraints, not significance to history, uniqueness or any other bs made up on this forum.

On the contrary, I feel like a lot of the Snake disdain stems from Kojima not wanting to develop for the WiiU, which, I can't blame him since I don't really care for the system myself.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

On the contrary, I feel like a lot of the Snake disdain stems from Kojima not wanting to develop for the WiiU, which, I can't blame him since I don't really care for the system myself.

That doesn't really mean anything. If company prejudice meant anything Mega Man wouldn't be in the game.

 

[Shroob]

That doesn't really mean anything. If company prejudice meant anything Mega Man wouldn't be in the game.

It could mean something however, if Kojima flat out didn't want Snake on the WiiU in any form. Meaning he could very easily ask a friend of his, Sakurai, to take out Snake.

 

[Niko Mar]

Pokemon Trainer as he is tedious to balance/develop.

Most characters need:
Mario vs. Roster (39)

Pokemon Trainer needs:
Squirtle-Ivysaur
Squirtle-Charizard
Ivysaur-Charizard
Squirtle-Ivysaur-Charizard
Squirtle-Roster
Ivysaur-Roster
Charizard-Roster
Pokemon Trainer-Roster

After that, you have 4 models for one slot. A unique mechanic specific to Pokemon Trainer (fatigue) along with the ability to transform. An animation for Pokemon Trainer in every stage, and voice work for all 4 characters. So if Sakurai wanted to keep cuts to a minimum, it would be wise to simply cut Pokemon Trainer (perhaps for Charizard).

I definitely agree, cutting Trainer is better than cutting 2-3 other characters.

I feel like the Trainer and Snake would be the first on Sakurai's chopping block (I'm not saying they're the only ones mind you [also only if he had to make cuts]). Trainer is literally 3 different characters and Snake is just 3rd party. I know we've never had 3rd parties until Brawl, but other fighting series usually keep them around for one game only (Soul Calibur, etc.). Sonic is sort of an exception because of Sega's whole partnership with Nintendo now.

 

[Meelow]

Here's my list.

Super Smash Bros. 64:
Mario - Confirmed
Luigi - Confirmed
Yoshi - Won't be cut
Link - Confirmed
Samus - Confirmed
Fox - Confirmed
Donkey Kong - Confirmed
Pikachu - Confirmed
Jigglypuff - Won't be cut
Kirby - Confirmed
Captain Falcon - Won't be cut
Ness - Won't be cut

You don't mess with the originals

Super Smash Bros. Melee:

Dr.Mario - Was cut in Brawl, and won't be returning
Peach - Confirmed
Bowser - Confirmed
Young Link - Replaced by Toon Link in Brawl
Zelda - Confirmed
Sheik - Won't be cut
Ganondorf - Won't be cut
Falco - Won't be cut
Pichu - Was cut in Brawl, and won't be returning
Mewtwo - Was cut in Brawl, BUT has a big chance of returning in Super Smash Bros. 4
Marth - Confirmed
Roy - Was cut in Brawl, and probably won't return
Ice Climers - People think Ice Climbers will be cut because of Luma & Rosalina but we have Toon Link and Lucas, 2 copy's.
Mr. Game & Watch - Iconic, and won't be cut out

Super Smash Bros. Brawl:

Wario - Won't be cut
Toon Link - Confirmed
Zero Suit Samus - No reason for her to be cut
Wolf - Very possible that Wolf will be cut
Diddy Kong - Won't be cut
Pokemon Trainer - Possible that Pokemon Trainer will be cut
Lucario - Possible Lucario will be cut, and be replaced by Mewtwo
King Dedede - Won't be cut
Meta Knight - Won't be cut
Lucas - High chance of Lucas being cut, hopefully if he does than he will be replaced by another Mother character
Ike - Very possible that Ike will be cut
R.O.B - Iconic, won't be cut
Olimar - Confirmed
Pit - Confirmed
Snake - VERY possible that Snake will be cut, If I was Nintendo I wouldn't bring him back unless the Wii U gets MGSV
Sonic - Confirmed

 

[Vann Accessible]

If it came down to cutting Pokemon Trainer, I would hope they'd salvage Charizard into a stand alone character.

He is like the most popular mon ever, besides Pikachu.

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

I'm iffy when it comes to who exactly will/should be cut. But, this is how I judge it at the moment.
Paragon of Shining Smashtasium

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
Rosalina & Luma
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Yoshi
Wario
Link
Toon Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Pikmin & Olimar
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Fox
Pit
Ness
Captain Falcon
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Mega Man
Sonic

Down with the Smash Bros.

Ice Climbers
Sheik
Pokemon Trainer
Falco
Wolf
Lucas
Lucario

(Ban)Hammer Smashed Face

Snake
R.O.B.
Ike
Pichu
Dr. Mario
Roy
Mewtwo

*Italics = Confimed

 

[Seraphim.]

Probably only see Snake leaving but even cutting him wouldn't make sense especially with Sonic back and I haven't seen any good reason to cut him other than people's personal bias or hatred towards him.

As for the rest, I don't see any of them leaving... Ike is in a better position than Roy was and is still a popular lord. Lucas and Wolf aren't that clone-ish only having similar specials and FS's. Lucario seems to still be pretty important with X/Y.

ROB is iffy but I see him coming back.

 

[The Real Gamer]

- cut
- replace for Krystal
- replace for Mewtwo
- replace for new FE character
- cut

easy

 

[PikaJew]

- replace for Krystal

easy

I know I'm the minority on this site when I say I absolutely don't want this

 

[Swamp Sensei]

People cutting Lucario and Ike for recent characters bugs me.

Not much point in that aside from ensuring patterns.

I know I'm the minority on this site when I say I absolutely don't want this

You're in the majority actually.

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

For cuts, I prefer Pokemon Trainer, Lucas, Snake, Lucario, Ike, Sheik, R.O.B., Ice Climbers, and Falco.

Keep in mind my opinions vary for some characters on this list. Some I don't want to see go. Some I want to go to phase out character balance.

 

[soviet prince]

cuts
ike- for flavor of the month character prob chrome
jigglypuff- really is not all that iconic and if she was not in the first game would anyone request her?
lucas- cloney character and ness reps the franchise just fine
snake- buisness
maybe
lucario- personally I think he will end up staying but there a slight chance

not cut

pk trainer- has a unique moveset and reps the series even better then pikachu
wolf- the roster has hardly any villians as is

 

[Big-Cat]

Still don't get the Lucas hate when more or less everything about Mother in Brawl revolved around Mother 3. New Pork City, the Boss(es), the music, heck, even the Franklin Badge, while in every other Mother game, was only ever important in 3.

Lucas is as much of a clone of Ness as Luigi is of Mario.


Also, no, Lucas was not promoting Mother 3 for sales reasons. Mother 3 came out in 2006. Brawl came out in 2008. The GBA was dead by then. Foresight would have been obvious that the GBA would have been making way for the DS at this point, so promoting a 'done' system would not have been intended most likely. The reason Lucas is in Smash at all, is because he is an iconic character to his franchise, nothing more than that.

My only beef with Lucas and Wolf is that they could be fully unique characters if it weren't for their very similar specials with Ness and Fox respectively. What made me more mad was that all of Lucas' specials and Final Smash are actually all Kumatora's. Might as well put her in instead.

I think the ones in danger are Sheik, Pokemon Trainer, and either Falco or Wolf. My guess is that we won't see Pichu or Young Link returning.

 

[RelaxAlax]

Lucas .... stay ....


But seriously, only cuts I can foresee would be Snake, Ike and Lucario. Ike would be replaced as would Lucario. Or I could be wrong. There's no telling with Sakurai

Hopefully sub clones get reworked even more.

EDIT - Sheik is possible too, for Impa or just riddance. But I think tradition will follow through, as Jiggs and Sheik are more iconic through smash, as is the same with Falcon.