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Predicting Online Smash Culture

FreakyVoiceDude

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When I say online culture, I'm aware that Smash isn't WoW, having no overworld, interaction or even a full chat feature. Rather, I'm talking about what happens most of the time when you start up a match with random people. What characters will be more popular? What stages will be used? What rule sets will be ignored or overused? What's the average age group and skill level you'll run into?

Snake, will be an extremely used character across the board. He's basically Sony's visiting Mascot, the 'hardcore' wannabes and fans will use him exclusively. On the other end of the spectrum, the average gamer will shy away from female, cartoonish, or simply awkward looking characters based on looks alone. Give the average teenager a choice, he'll go with the ninja guy with the guns and bombs. Likewise, expect Bowser, Ike, Samus and other generically badass characters will be picked for the visual appeal of the average gamer.

However, let's face it, Nintendo is a family company. Who went out and hunted Wiis? Parents. A large fraction of random players online will be younger than you, and that's even if you're around fifteen. Expect a LOT of kids playing their favorite characters, which with the demographic will probably be Pokemon, the Mario Party crowd, the bright and colorful ones they'll grow to hate after puberty sets in. For every few action-character teenagers, expect at least one seven-ten year old thinking the point of the game is to hop around the platforms. If they know how, they WILL disconnect when the other player plays it like a fighting game. If they're smarter but not all there, they'll probably just jump around evading you with the occasional missed attack. Imagine a four player match of you, some five year old running off the edge, and two others that are just running away from you and doing double jumps for fun. At worst, you'll get the violent little tykes that just rush you like dogs without any comprehension of the game's finer points. Feel free to show them your moves, either they'll learn from you and become better gamers or get fed up and go search 'boobs' on Youtube as most grade school runts do nowadays.

I imagine most won't bother moving the rules around. Stock or time will be standard, even if they're options I can't imagine Coin or other modes catching on. Tourney players will set it to the usual rules, easiest way to spot them.

Truly not sure how the stage options work. If the host picks, they'll either go with their favorite all the time or hit random. Expect the cooler-looking stages to take dominance over the tourney-friendly ones, namely space stages, castles, etc. Doubt Smashville will appeal to most people with it being so simple and unexciting.

The average skill level overall, will at first be overall bad. As time goes on, the obsessed folk will take their thrones as untouchable, and a year later the original bad players will have either improved or stopped playing. On the other hand, there could be a steady stream of new players since this is THE Wii game to buy.

And finally...There will always be the one weirdo, playing as Zero Suit Samus, trying to get the other players to check 'her' out so 'she' can beat them. A rather logical strategy, but eyebrow-raising nonetheless.
 

Meta_Sonic64

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I disagree with some points of your prediction. I feel that even little kids that are 5 years old know how to play this at a beginner level. Some of them know the basics of the game, I'm sure of it. I do beleive that it'll mostly be teens playing though and some guys like me will be playing with Pit and Metaknight or the other 2 3rd party characters(whoever they may be).
 

Kentalish

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i dont predict before i play online...

but im playing diddy as my main hands down even if hes low tier... BTW who gives a **** about tiers there are alot of good low tier people so i don't thing they should judge that crap its all about the persons skill with the player
 

mario-man

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I'm quite indignant!!! How dare you say that once puberty sets in, you'll grow to hate the Mario crew. I resent that. I WILL ALWAYS BE A MARIO FAN!!!! MARIO HIMSELF!!!


LOL
 

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When I say online culture, I'm aware that Smash isn't WoW,
I play WoW.

Give the average teenager a choice, he'll go with the ninja guy with the guns and bombs. Likewise, expect Bowser, Ike, Samus and other generically badass characters will be picked for the visual appeal of the average gamer.
Fourteen and I like Meta Knight and Kirby.
. Expect a LOT of kids playing their favorite characters, which with the demographic will probably be Pokemon, the Mario Party crowd, the bright and colorful ones they'll grow to hate after puberty sets in. .
Like I said, Meta Knight will be who I use.

All that said, I expect to see Ike, Snake, and PT to be veeeeeeerrrrrryy over used, like you said.
 

Eternalfire

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Link all da way, son. I'm sure there will be lots of Links around, mostly spin spammers that use the move without even edge guarding. I'm guessing a lot of Snakes (I don't blame them. I'm gunna play him too), Sonic (Same here), and Fox. Why Fox? Because the pros will assume he is the best character in the game again.
 

FreakyVoiceDude

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* backed into corner, pitchforks aimed at crotch *

Well, eh...Didn't...count the hardcore fans and tourney players, focused more on casual gamers and Wii owners...

...Fight or flight instinct kicking in...Must...bust out valid arguments and evidence to fight back, or appear inedible to prevent being eaten...

So, eh...Anyone else like Pepsi Blue? Drink so much of it I must taste like it by now. Yep. Taste like Pepsi Blue.
 

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Hmm, I agree with most of your points, but do you think that parents who bought the Wii ALSO bought their kid a Wi-Fi USB Connector? I can see what you are saying, but the average level of gameplay will be a bit higher than what you predicted. :)
 

TheSpindoctor

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Im sure during the first few months, snake, Ike, and a lot of the other new guys will be overused, but I think character usage will even over after the first 6 months.

About the age group, probably teenagers, which is fine with me, because currently I am one! 14
 

THEmSHAKE

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* backed into corner, pitchforks aimed at crotch *

Well, eh...Didn't...count the hardcore fans and tourney players, focused more on casual gamers and Wii owners...

...Fight or flight instinct kicking in...Must...bust out valid arguments and evidence to fight back, or appear inedible to prevent being eaten...

So, eh...Anyone else like Pepsi Blue? Drink so much of it I must taste like it by now. Yep. Taste like Pepsi Blue.
Ugh.....crap. Pepsi blue......*shakes head* ....and I was so hungry to.
 

Pyroloserkid

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I agree that the "Popular Badass" characters will be used more than others for the first little while, but then once the scrubs start getting *****, they'll probably suck out and won't want to play online anymore.

Also, I doubt that 7 year olds will be playing online anyways. Also, if you don't like the noobs online, add kickass people from SWF to your friends list. Done.

Also, this 9 year old asian kid took me down to my last stock with Kirby today. I play Falco. -Stupid Yoshi Story. The cloud doesn't like me.-
 

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I agree that the "Popular Badass" characters will be used more than others for the first little while, but then once the scrubs start getting *****, they'll probably suck out and won't want to play online anymore.

Also, I doubt that 7 year olds will be playing online anyways. Also, if you don't like the noobs online, add kickass people from SWF to your friends list. Done.

Also, this 9 year old asian kid took me down to my last stock with Kirby today. I play Falco. -Stupid Yoshi Story. The cloud doesn't like me.-
Very true, very true (also, I wanted to apologize again for that fight we had, i don't know why, but...I just thought about it and felt bad)

As for me, the first online match I'm having is against my buddy Blackadder, in which I'm going to get formally *** *****. He'll violate me with a glass bottle, and then brake it inside of me...

I'm scared. :(
 

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@Pyroloserkid I too hate the cloud. I got beat by a nine year old using fox who just shine ***** me. I might cry myself to sleep tonight.

But back on topic: I don't have many friends with Wii's so I will probably random online play alot. I do expect the n00b who has his message as BOOOOOOOOBIES!!!!!!! But I also expect some people who shouldn't suck completely (says the man who got shine *****).:(:(:(:(:(
 

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Several coworkers and fellow students of mine plan on playing online (ages averaging 18-32).

But I can see where the kids-early tweens will show demographically with what characters they choose. Obviously, a 9 year old will much prefer Mario or Pikachu to Ike or Snake (logically) and a older teen may prefer Snake and Metaknight to Jigglypuff and Yoshi.

I have no idea what I am trying to get at. I just wanted to say I know a 32 year old smasher who mains Fox, Pikachu, and Yoshi.
 

Pyroloserkid

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Very true, very true (also, I wanted to apologize again for that fight we had, i don't know why, but...I just thought about it and felt bad)

As for me, the first online match I'm having is against my buddy Blackadder, in which I'm going to get formally *** *****. He'll violate me with a glass bottle, and then brake it inside of me...

I'm scared. :(
Meh it's ok. And...ouch?

Anyways, I wanted to see if Sariku wanted to be my first ;) .

@Pyroloserkid I too hate the cloud. I got beat by a nine year old using fox who just shine ***** me. I might cry myself to sleep tonight.

But back on topic: I don't have many friends with Wii's so I will probably random online play alot. I do expect the n00b who has his message as BOOOOOOOOBIES!!!!!!! But I also expect some people who shouldn't suck completely (says the man who got shine *****).:(:(:(:(:(
So? I only have 3 friends with Wii's. That's why I'm going to get Friend Codes from awesome people here on SWF.
 

Red Exodus

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I can picture noobs playing 99 stock matches all the time. Stocks will be very high all the time for sure.
 

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So? I only have 3 friends with Wii's. That's why I'm going to get Friend Codes from awesome people here on SWF.
Yeah I'm gonna get some codes here too. I also have a feeling everyone here is better then me (okay I am selling myself a little short). I might use random mostly to beat someone and make myself feel good.
 

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Does anybody know if there wll be a ranking system online in singles and doubles that displays your wins and loses and other important info?
 

Lunytunes4.4

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the online in brawl will make the forum more fun it used to be just tourneys all day which wasn't bad, but now i can play some ppl here on SWF without even getting off my a** lol
 

The_Smash_Champ

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I never really cared of what my character looks like, since i actually play competitive like most people here dont for some reason....i just pick whatever character is best for me and which character fits my style of play. For example two of my top characters are Peach and the IC's, and they are as bright as they get.
 

Kirbykrew

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I have to agree on some parts, but not all little kids are noobs, my 8 year old step-bro. is fairly good at Fox. Still can't do any advanced Techs (and barely shines, for that matter), but he knows what they are.

Lol@Red Exodus, if that were true I'd not go online much.
 

The_Smash_Champ

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I have to agree on some parts, but not all little kids are noobs, my 8 year old step-bro. is fairly good at Fox. Still can't do any advanced Techs (and barely shines, for that matter), but he knows what they are.

Lol@Red Exodus, if that were true I'd not go online much.
Lol no matter what, an 8-year old doesnt have the finger speed to beat anyone who knows what they are doing, they will outsmart them to death.
 

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Does anybody know if there wll be a ranking system online in singles and doubles that displays your wins and loses and other important info?
Nothing confirmed, but I'm going to keep my fingers crossed. Online ranking boards are out the window, but maybe confirmed Brawl friends will be able to view each others win/loss records before or after a match. Wins and loses against friends maybe. Or maybe not. Not a crushing blow if there isn't though...

As for Smash culture, cool predictions. I've been playing Link again on Melee, and I'm thinking of using him on Brawl. I can already feel my friends scooping up Meta-Knight, Pit, and Diddy Kong, all extremely cool characters. I'm interested in also mastering Mario, Luigi and Snake. (not that Luigi is any kind of masterpiece of a player, but Luigi's hilarious in the games that he's in.) If Bowser has gotten any better, I'd like to give him a shot as well.
 

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Ugh. I read the first paragraph on the first page, and just thought, "If there will be advanced techniques in Brawl, and people use them online, everyone will be using them sooner or later."

It should sound great...but I'm annoyed by it.
 

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I just really hope to see a variety of characters excelling in their own ways. I don't want to see another Mario Kart DS epidemic where you only stand a chance against pro-snakers with pro-snaking vehicals (egg cart and dry bones tank). Aye, I'm not against snaking by the way. I just want to see a variety of characters being used in Brawl and succeeding equally well against each other when played by the right people. I just think that makes for more interesting matches.
 

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Link all da way, son. I'm sure there will be lots of Links around, mostly spin spammers that use the move without even edge guarding. I'm guessing a lot of Snakes (I don't blame them. I'm gunna play him too), Sonic (Same here), and Fox. Why Fox? Because the pros will assume he is the best character in the game again.
fox? If he loses falling speed and shine canceling through jumping, it will be instantly noticeable, Every 'pro' will instantly realize he got nerfed.

anyway, what I'm afraid of is that people will be of poor skill like you say, and I will end up having my opponent disconnect 80% of the time because they're getting annihilated. I also wonder, will you be able to enter a game and ensure that items are turned off? If you can, you could just turn items off and GREATLY increase your chance of playing someone good.
 

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well random matches wont be ranked so i dont see why anyone would d/c there...and friends wont likely d/c on ya either
 

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Somehow, I have this aching feeling that we're going to be pigeon-holed into playing four-person, free-for-all, full-items, stockless timed matches.
 
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It ain't good sportsmanship to just d/c themselves. If they d/c themselves, they lose. If they are winning by 50 stocks and d/c they still lose. =/
 
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