Potential Roster/Stage Leak Thread

[Turokman5896]

Honestly I thought all the Uprising stuff just meant that. It's Sakurai's game. People see Dark Pit and Palutena as playable characters in Smash, attracts them to buy Uprising, which equals money in Sakurai's pocket. It's not "unfair" to Donkey Kong, it's just marketing.

It is kinda unfair depending on how you view it. No new dk stages maybe one item and no newcomers? Are you serious?

 

[BindingBlade]

It is kinda unfair depending on how you view it. No new dk stages maybe one item and no newcomers? Are you serious?

We definitely should have a third rep.

 

[SmasherP83]

It is kinda unfair depending on how you view it. No new dk stages maybe one item and no newcomers? Are you serious?

I don't se why people don't like Jungle Japes it's cool. Plus nothing can be worser than Wispy blowing wind in your direction when you're trying to recover.......Stupid tree owes me so many lives...

 

[Xiaphas]

Honestly, Dark Pit is the biggest thing going against this leak in my eyes. Sure KI is Sakurai's love child, but really, that's such a waste of a character slot.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

Did we compare the fonts yet as suggested @CapnMuffin ?

 

[SmasherP83]

Honestly, Dark Pit is the biggest thing going against this leak in my eyes. Sure KI is Sakurai's love child, but really, that's such a waste of a character slot.

Characters have already been decided before the E3 trailer so "waste of character slot" will probably make you look dumb.

 

[PlTe]

Honestly, Dark Pit is the biggest thing going against this leak in my eyes. Sure KI is Sakurai's love child, but really, that's such a waste of a character slot.

It's not a waste of a character slot. Dark Pit doesn't take any slot from anyone. The roster was decided, if Dark Pit, Doctor Mario, and Lucina are in, it's additions to the already decided roster.

 

[Repiteo]

Personally, I think Sakurai had the clones planned from the beginning. Just that instead of saying 'I added clones 'cause that made more people happy than the alternative.' like he did when confronted about the clones in Melee, he said 'Hey, I think you're dumb, so here's a dumb excuse for Lucina's inclusion that you'll inevitably be okay with which will pave the way for the rest of the clones I have in store for you.'.

I mean, the guy's a genius. Pad Lucina's dumb excuse with a unique and interesting representative from the same franchise and then slip in Dr. Mario, a Melee rep people have (for whatever reason) been asking to return for ages, and no-one'll bat an eyelash at Dark Pit.

Ehh, it's debatable. I'm in the camp of clones being an afterthought, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised if they were part of Sakurai's master plan.

 

[BindingBlade]

Honestly, Dark Pit is the biggest thing going against this leak in my eyes. Sure KI is Sakurai's love child, but really, that's such a waste of a character slot.

What a load of crap. There's no reserved spots, and another character is always good.

 

[SmasherP83]

Ehh, it's debatable. I'm in the camp of clones being an afterthought, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised if they were part of Sakurai's master plan.

Sakurai's Master Plan? I thought he just took all his unpredictable ideas out of his troll box.

 

[Casey_Contra]

Maybe Dark Pit is a sign that Kid Icarus U is on it's way :0

And I remember reading something (I couldn't find it) about Sakurai being afraid of showing bias towards his characters. I can still see that with Kirby, but I guess Kid Icarus is his new baby.

 

[BindingBlade]

Maybe Dark Pit is a sign that Kid Icarus U is on it's way :0

And I remember reading something (I couldn't find it) about Sakurai being afraid of showing bias towards his characters. I can still see that with Kirby, but I guess Kid Icarus is his new baby.

I sure hope so, Kid Icarus U would have me ecstatic.

 

[TheOthin]

I wouldn't look into character placement on the CSS too much. There's no reason why Sakurai wouldn't be able to find a way to arrange series into working arrangements.

Sakurai could find a way to put that roster in a working arrangement, yes. My point is that if he was trying to do that, he would've ordered the characters in a way considerably different from what the leaked CSS shows.

 

[PlTe]

Uprising is one of my favorite games, so if there are more Kid Icarus characters coming, f**king bring them all in!

 

[SmasherP83]

Uprising is one of my favorite games, so if there are more Kid Icarus characters coming, f**king bring them all in!

We don't wanna overfill the roster with Sakurai's babies. Dark Pit's fine to me.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Lol. Dark Pit has always been in plain sight. People just refused to believe it.

He was in that picture of figures Sakurai posted fighting amongst characters that were already in the game. One of which was in fact just Pit.

The cliff-hanger at the end of Palutena's trailer wasn't the first time there was an intent shown by Sakurai to have Dark Pit as a thing.

And even then people refused to believe the true meaning of what a cliff hanger really is and tried to talk around it, until now they're being smacked in the face with how wrong they were. Even if this CSS ends up fake. He's more than likely in considering the further tease of him in the magazine scan.

 

[LeeYawshee]

Imo dark samus should have been in the exact same situation

Dark Samus, a character who has defined abilities and traits that are completely different from Samus vs Dark Pit, a character that uses the same exact equipment as Pit.

Honestly, it doesn't sound like you want Dark Samus, but rather you don't want Dark Pit.

I would prefer it if Dark Samus got in as a character, but as her own character who doesn't have to worry about being a clone. I literally imagine Dark Pit as a clone. Maybe one that has different weapons for some reason but a clone nonetheless. It would be true to his character. I'm sure some of you are thinking I'm hating on Dark Pit but the fact is I'm defending him. I love Dark Pit, I love the work done with his character in KIU and his theme is just the best. But his position in the roster will probably just be a clone.
asmuchasidontwantittohappen

Personally, I think Sakurai had the clones planned from the beginning. Just that instead of saying 'I added clones 'cause that made more people happy than the alternative.' like he did when confronted about the clones in Melee, he said 'Hey, I think you're dumb, so here's a dumb excuse for Lucina's inclusion that you'll inevitably be okay with which will pave the way for the rest of the clones I have in store for you.'.

I mean, the guy's a genius. Pad Lucina's dumb excuse with a unique and interesting representative from the same franchise and then slip in Dr. Mario, a Melee rep people have (for whatever reason) been asking to return for ages, and no-one'll bat an eyelash at Dark Pit.

I don't know, the way Sakurai worded it made it seem like we'll get characters within characters so I'm not sure. This could be true but I somehow doubt it. Just seems like a way to make something worse than what it actually is.

Honestly, Dark Pit is the biggest thing going against this leak in my eyes. Sure KI is Sakurai's love child, but really, that's such a waste of a character slot.

Stop with the character slot thing. It's been disproven so many times already. He's not a waste, he's literally an addition. It was either 47 characters or 47 characters + Dark Pit.

 

[BindingBlade]

Lol. Dark Pit has always been in plain sight. People just refused to believe it.

He was in that picture of figures Sakurai posted fighting amongst characters that were already in the game. One of which was in fact just Pit.

The cliff-hanger at the end of Palutena's trailer wasn't the first time there was an intent shown by Sakurai to have Dark Pit as a thing.

And even then people refused to believe the true meaning of what a cliff hanger really is and tried to talk around it, until now they're being smacked in the face with how wrong they were. Even if this CSS ends up fake. He's more than likely in considering the further tease of him in the magazine scan.

Touchè.

 

[Ryan50]

We definitely should have a third rep.

I have to agree here. The DK series needs a third rep, whether it's Dixie or K Rool, or maybe someone else I don't know about? The series' representation is pretty underwhelming. Heck, even some more items would be nice, even if they brought back the Barrel Canons as an item, it'd still help the series representation, much more than the Kremlings existence in Smash Run would provide.

But ahh, I think I was getting a tad bit off topic at the end there, since the leaks aren't about a series being under-represented, but it representation does bring me to my next point. If this leak is correct, at least we didn't get Magnus instead of Dark Pit. Yes, he'd be pretty awesome with that gigantic sword, but his role is even smaller than Dark Pit's

 

[Repiteo]

Lol. Dark Pit has always been in plain sight. People just refused to believe it.

He was in that picture of figures Sakurai posted fighting amongst characters that were already in the game. One of which was in fact just Pit.

The cliff-hanger at the end of Palutena's trailer wasn't the first time there was an intent shown by Sakurai to have Dark Pit as a thing.

And even then people refused to believe the true meaning of what a cliff hanger really is and tried to talk around it, until now they're being smacked in the face with how wrong they were. Even if this CSS ends up fake. He's more than likely in considering the further tease of him in the magazine scan.

That...

...Is actually a really good point. Wow. It never occurred to me just how much he's been teased.

 

[BindingBlade]

I have to agree here. The DK series needs a third rep, whether it's Dixie or K Rool, or maybe someone else I don't know about? The series' representation is pretty underwhelming. Heck, even some more items would be nice, even if they brought back the Barrel Canons as an item, it'd still help the series representation, much more than the Kremlings existence in Smash Run would provide.

But ahh, I think I was getting a tad bit off topic at the end there, since the leaks aren't about a series being under-represented, but it representation does bring me to my next point. If this leak is correct, at least we didn't get Magnus instead of Dark Pit. Yes, he'd be pretty awesome with that gigantic sword, but his role is even smaller than Dark Pit's

I don't understand why people were clamoring for Magnus.

 

[SmasherP83]

I have to agree here. The DK series needs a third rep, whether it's Dixie or K Rool, or maybe someone else I don't know about? The series' representation is pretty underwhelming. Heck, even some more items would be nice, even if they brought back the Barrel Canons as an item, it'd still help the series representation, much more than the Kremlings existence in Smash Run would provide.

But ahh, I think I was getting a tad bit off topic at the end there, since the leaks aren't about a series being under-represented, but it representation does bring me to my next point. If this leak is correct, at least we didn't get Magnus instead of Dark Pit. Yes, he'd be pretty awesome with that gigantic sword, but his role is even smaller than Dark Pit's

He only appeared in like what 2 missions and you don't see him again til like a year later so I'll take Dark Pit over him anyday.

 

[Casey_Contra]

What a load of crap. There's no reserved spots, and another character is always good.

Agreed! I like clones, to me they are options. Okay, I like the play style of Pit, so now I can choose one set of traits (let's say speed and agility) or choose Dark Pit (stronger attacks). I don't see anything wrong with that. Plus you could tell a lot about someone whether they picked Marth or Roy

Also, "taking away spots" is BS.

 

[LeeYawshee]

I don't understand why people were clamoring for Magnus.

Dude. That voice. That sword. That glorious hair. He's pretty badass, but not playable badass.

 

[SmasherP83]

Agreed! I like clones, to me they are options. Okay, I like the play style of Pit, so now I can choose one set of traits (let's say speed and agility) or choose Dark Pit (stronger attacks). I don't see anything wrong with that. Plus you could tell a lot about someone whether they picked Marth or Roy

Also, "taking away spots" is BS.

I love clones. Dr.Mario is my favorite clone out there.

 

[SmasherP83]

Dude. That voice. That sword. That glorious hair. He's pretty badass, but not playable badass.

I didn't find his hair that glorious, but Amazon Pandora on the other hand.......Yea...

 

[Turokman5896]

I like kid Icarus and the dark pit addition (although an alt makes more sense) but this roster has 0 of the hype 3. That is a significant failure in my eyes. HOWEVER, whether or not a character is or isn't in the leak does not affect it's validity.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

That...

...Is actually a really good point. Wow. It never occurred to me just how much he's been teased.

I do what I can.

 

[TheAnvil]

I must say, that if this does turn out to be legit there's going to be one hell of a backlash about the cut vets like IC, Lucas and Wolf, especially as he's included Lucina, DP and Dark Pit.

There's no two ways about that.

Sakurai needs to get his flame shields out in full force.

 

[LeeYawshee]

I didn't find his hair that glorious, but Amazon Pandora on the other hand.......Yea...

Amazon Pandora was all glorious. But this is neither the place nor the time to talk of about her lovely *cough* plot points.

 

[SmasherP83]

I must say, that if this does turn out to be legit there's going to be one hell of a backlash about the cut vets like IC, Lucas and Wolf, especially as he's included Lucina, DP and Dark Pit.

There's no two ways about that.

Sakurai needs to get his flame shields out in full force.

Sakurai doesn't need flame shield. He has the Nintendo ninjas...Remember their always watching...

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley disrupted the entire, keep that in mind.

"The entire" what?
I think you need to add a word to the sentence for me to get what you mean.

 

[SmasherP83]

Amazon Pandora was all glorious. But this is neither the place nor the time to talk of about her lovely *cough* plot points.

Yea...Back to the topic

 

[ThePsychoWolf]

My only real problem with Dark Pit is that Kid Icarus now has 3 reps, while older or more popular series like DK, Metroid, and Star Fox now only have 2. What's more, Star Fox actually LOSES a deserving and popular character from their series. Kid Icarus has 3 games and was dead for over 20 years. If so many series weren't being shafted, I would have no problem accepting Dark Pit as an 'bonus'. What's even more, if Sakurai hadn't spent development time giving Palutena 12 freaking specials, a couple of those veterans might not of had to have been cut in the first place.

 

[ChunkyBeef]

My only real problem with Dark Pit is that Kid Icarus now has 3 reps, while older or more popular series like DK, Metroid, and Star Fox now only have 2.

I'd have been fine with Kid Icarus getting three reps if the third rep was, say, Medusa or Hades.

 

[SmasherP83]

My only real problem with Dark Pit is that Kid Icarus now has 3 reps, while older or more popular series like DK, Metroid, and Star Fox now only have 2. What's more, Star Fox actually LOSES a deserving and popular character from their series. Kid Icarus has 3 games and was dead for over 20 years. If so many series weren't being shafted, I would have no problem accepting Dark Pit as an 'bonus'. What's even more, if Sakurai hadn't spent development time giving Palutena 12 freaking specials, a couple of those veterans might not of had to have been cut in the first place.

Dark Pit is Sakurai's babies. If he wants a baby in he'll put a baby in. I mean either way we can't complain he makes the game afterall.

 

[TheOthin]

I'd have been fine with Kid Icarus getting three reps if the third rep was, say, Medusa or Hades.

Unfortunately, they're even bigger than Ridley.

 

[SmasherP83]

Unfortunately, they're even bigger than Ridley.

They'll squash him like a fly. I'll love to watch that over again.

 

[Waluigi is too big]

So can someone clear up why there is a maybe for Ridley, chorus men, impa, mach rider, and Dixie. according to this leak.

 

[Casey_Contra]

My only real problem with Dark Pit is that Kid Icarus now has 3 reps, while older or more popular series like DK, Metroid, and Star Fox now only have 2. What's more, Star Fox actually LOSES a deserving and popular character from their series. Kid Icarus has 3 games and was dead for over 20 years. If so many series weren't being shafted, I would have no problem accepting Dark Pit as an 'bonus'. What's even more, if Sakurai hadn't spent development time giving Palutena 12 freaking specials, a couple of those veterans might not of had to have been cut in the first place.

Maybe he is trying to emulate what happened with Marth and Roy, just on a different scale.

They were unknown to american audiences, but through Smash became popular, viola! now we have FE.

If people fall in love with Pit, Palutena and Dark Pit there might be more incentive to keep up with the revival.

Major difference is that FE was already popular in Japan.