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Porky Minch: The King of New Pork City

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Grabbing items would be more easy in the Mother 3 design since there is no glass, he can grab stuff with his own hands without any problems.
I know I said in previous posts that he could still be expressive in his Mother 3 form, a bit, but I don't know if he would have the force to hold items like a hammer, I rather see his mech do that with its upper arms.
 

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I really want the Magypsies in some way but I know that ain't happening because these are sensitive times and apparently drag queens are taboo. (Why?)
 
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Oh wow, that is pretty nuts. Sometimes I go crazy when I post here because I know how beloved the series is yet I see more people asking for Undertale than Porky.

Glad as hell to know it's not just me. Might be that this particular website doesn't have many Earthbound fans.
 

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My top five characters have been unchanged since Ultimate's announcement.
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I said I would be satisfied if even one of them made it in, but as of now two have been confirmed. Give me Porky, Ganon, Dark Matter, and this roster will be perfect in the first-party front.
 

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My top five characters have been unchanged since Ultimate's announcement.
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I said I would be satisfied if even one of them made it in, but as of now two have been confirmed. Give me Porky, Ganon, Dark Matter, and this roster will be perfect in the first-party front.
Let's see, I grew up with Link to the past so of course I love Ganon and the possibility of a character with a trident sounds amazing.
I also grew up with Kirby dreamland 3 and Kirby 64 and Dark Matter / Zero are my favorite Kirby villain, so any Dark matter representation in Smash would make me extremely happy.
And Porky is right now my most wanted rep, so I don't need to make my case.
10/10 would never ask for anything again.
 

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Damn, so Porky was even more voted than Rayman and Paper Mario? It surprises me that even Rayman surpassed Paper Mario, in the ballot results Paper Mario was 11th while Rayman was nowhere to be seen. I'm glad that so much people want Porky too! I think that Earthbound may just get another rep due to its community growing thanks to Smash Bros.
 

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Honestly, it makes me happy to see Porky get some attention. I've wanted him as a playable character since Brawl. I genuinely believe he deserves a spot.

He's one of the very few Mother characters to appear in multiple games, he's an antagonist, he has a unique personality compared to the rest of the roster, and he's got a ton of moveset potential. He's one of the most important Mother characters hands down.

Unfortunately, I don't see him getting in as a playable character. It feels like they're really trying to fulfill fan-requests first and foremost this time around, and Porky is a character I haven't seen much push for until somewhat recently.
I *can* see him returning as a boss though.
 
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Masked Man and Ninten have to be the Porky's opponents, being Masked Man the most supported as far as I know while Ninten is easily a Ness echo fighter. I'm losing hope over time, but I still think he can make it in. They're going with the Good vs Bad idea as it seems, and by stretching, Masked Man isn't actually a villain:

his memories were brought back nearly at the very end of the game, who ended up shooting himself an intense bolt of lighting so that he couldn't attack Lucas.

Ninten is the best choice for an echo, but he's just a bit too obscure, despite being in the virtual console, but outside of that he's nothing more than an "old Ness". I could see them adding one of these boys and making Porky have his Mother 3 design as a boss, but I easily see it being resized to a smaller form, just like stated in my previous posts, or it's Earthbound form, which would be rather perfect for Smash. I just hope he has a chance some day.
 
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Damn, so Porky was even more voted than Rayman and Paper Mario? It surprises me that even Rayman surpassed Paper Mario, in the ballot results Paper Mario was 11th while Rayman was nowhere to be seen. I'm glad that so much people want Porky too! I think that Earthbound may just get another rep due to its community growing thanks to Smash Bros.
There was this other ballot where Porky didn't do that good but was still top 8:
It shows 2 things, first is that Porky is gaining attention, and that people really love Banjo and Kazooie.
 

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There was this other ballot where Porky didn't do that good but was still top 8:
It shows 2 things, first is that Porky is gaining attention, and that people really love Banjo and Kazooie.
It looks like Skull Kid is getting in, and apart from him, Porky is the only villain in the Top 10 (I don't know if Travis Touchdown is a villain I don't even know that character). If we're getting Skull Kid, Porky can definitely be in.







Also Geno tho, he's so obscure but yet so overrated.
 

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(I don't know if Travis Touchdown is a villain I don't even know that character)
Funny that you may ask, because while Travis is the protagonist of his game, there are certainly many who’d agree he’s a villain.

But back on topic, I think it’s neat Porky’s gaining support. Who knows, maybe we’ll be the next Ridley? (I swear, after this game there’s going to be such a support vacuum)
 

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Funny that you may ask, because while Travis is the protagonist of his game, there are certainly many who’d agree he’s a villain.

But back on topic, I think it’s neat Porky’s gaining support. Who knows, maybe we’ll be the next Ridley? (I swear, after this game there’s going to be such a support vacuum)
Travis is more of an anti-hero than he is a true villain (Given that his motives aren't about him going out and massacring innocent people for no reason other than sick kicks)!

He's mainly killing other killers/assassin's to pay his rent and get laid (As I've seen with the first No More Heroes)!
 

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Travis is more of an anti-hero than he is a true villain (Given that his motives aren't about him going out and massacring innocent people for no reason other than sick kicks)!

He's mainly killing other killers/assassin's to pay his rent and get laid (As I've seen with the first No More Heroes)!
Many would argue that killing people to pay rent and get laid is such a scummy thing to do he’s pretty much the villain of the story. At the very least, I think that ambiguity is very much intended.
 

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There we go, another ballot, another good day for Porky Minch (and even better for Skull Kid and Banjo)
 

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I want to put together a movest just for fun. I'll probably post it here.

Are there any moves or references you think Porku absolutely needs before I start?
 

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I want to put together a movest just for fun. I'll probably post it here.

Are there any moves or references you think Porku absolutely needs before I start?
Off the top of my head, the stinky gas, Porky-bots, and charging forward.
Not sure what the recovery should be, maybe the Phase Distorter, the Starman, the Fourside helicopter...
 

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I want to put together a movest just for fun. I'll probably post it here.

Are there any moves or references you think Porku absolutely needs before I start?
His boss battles from Earthbound, Mother 3, and especially Subspace Emmisary. That's where I started at least.
 

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I want to put together a movest just for fun. I'll probably post it here.

Are there any moves or references you think Porku absolutely needs before I start?
Spanky Spanky Taunt
TONS of alt costumes (original, the pinstripe suit, blue mother 3 porky, etc)
 

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There we go, another ballot, another good day for Porky Minch (and even better for Skull Kid and Banjo)
This actually makes me happier than it should. I thought Porky gained popularity just over these past few weeks due to the concept of Heroes vs Villains, but I researched a bit and in a SourceGaming article I found this image about potential characters that were requested:


Although I saw this, in the exact same article they list the top 50 characters requested, and Porky doesn't seem to be in, but either Skull Kid (I didn't really fully read the article, I just went a bit over it for a quick "lazy" resarch, so correct me if I'm wrong). I believe Porky didn't get requested enough in the ballot, and as far as I know, Smash Ultimate's roster is built up from the ballot, so we may get Porky as DLC if he continues to gain such popularity. Still it seems that we're getting Skull Kid, and I'm extremely convinced of this due to various reasons that you can see everyone talk about, so maybe Porky could definitely be another great villain addition to the roster. Hopes on Porky, either for the main game or as DLC!

Btw when seeing all of this I figured out that actually Masked Man wasn't the most requested character for an Earthbound rep, I just happened to see a heck lot of comments in YouTube videos about him and that led me to believe that, Porky seemed underrated for me.
 
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This actually makes me happier than it should. I thought Porky gained popularity just over these past few weeks due to the concept of Heroes vs Villains, but I researched a bit and in a SourceGaming article I found this image about potential characters that were requested:


Although I saw this, in the exact same article they list the top 50 characters requested, and Porky doesn't seem to be in, but either Skull Kid (I didn't really fully read the article, I just went a bit over it for a quick "lazy" resarch, so correct me if I'm wrong). I believe Porky didn't get requested enough in the ballot, and as far as I know, Smash Ultimate's roster is built up from the ballot, so we may get Porky as DLC if he continues to gain such popularity. Still it seems that we're getting Skull Kid, and I'm extremely convinced of this due to various reasons that you can see everyone talk about, so maybe Porky could definitely be another great villain addition to the roster. Hopes on Porky, either for the main game or as DLC!

Btw when seeing all of this I figured out that actually Masked Man wasn't the most requested character for an Earthbound rep, I just happened to see a heck lot of comments in YouTube videos about him and that led me to believe that, Porky seemed underrated for me.
People want Wart for smash? that's awesome but at the same time not a surprise, I remember people still asking for wart to be in a mario kart or a new mario bros game.
 

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This actually makes me happier than it should. I thought Porky gained popularity just over these past few weeks due to the concept of Heroes vs Villains, but I researched a bit and in a SourceGaming article I found this image about potential characters that were requested:


Although I saw this, in the exact same article they list the top 50 characters requested, and Porky doesn't seem to be in, but either Skull Kid (I didn't really fully read the article, I just went a bit over it for a quick "lazy" resarch, so correct me if I'm wrong). I believe Porky didn't get requested enough in the ballot, and as far as I know, Smash Ultimate's roster is built up from the ballot, so we may get Porky as DLC if he continues to gain such popularity. Still it seems that we're getting Skull Kid, and I'm extremely convinced of this due to various reasons that you can see everyone talk about, so maybe Porky could definitely be another great villain addition to the roster. Hopes on Porky, either for the main game or as DLC!

Btw when seeing all of this I figured out that actually Masked Man wasn't the most requested character for an Earthbound rep, I just happened to see a heck lot of comments in YouTube videos about him and that led me to believe that, Porky seemed underrated for me.
Porky was definitely underrated.

I don't remember there ever being a topic for Porky during the ballot days nor during Smash Switch speculation. There was no smashified for Porky. And despite all the talk of wanting villains no one ever brought him up. Porky didn't rank low on polls because it felt like no one even bothered to ask about him.

Which is why I made this thread. Because even I, who wasn't an Earthbound fan, thought it was weird that what was probably the most recognized villain of the series was nowhere to be seen.
 

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This actually makes me happier than it should. I thought Porky gained popularity just over these past few weeks due to the concept of Heroes vs Villains, but I researched a bit and in a SourceGaming article I found this image about potential characters that were requested:


Although I saw this, in the exact same article they list the top 50 characters requested, and Porky doesn't seem to be in, but either Skull Kid (I didn't really fully read the article, I just went a bit over it for a quick "lazy" resarch, so correct me if I'm wrong). I believe Porky didn't get requested enough in the ballot, and as far as I know, Smash Ultimate's roster is built up from the ballot, so we may get Porky as DLC if he continues to gain such popularity. Still it seems that we're getting Skull Kid, and I'm extremely convinced of this due to various reasons that you can see everyone talk about, so maybe Porky could definitely be another great villain addition to the roster. Hopes on Porky, either for the main game or as DLC!

Btw when seeing all of this I figured out that actually Masked Man wasn't the most requested character for an Earthbound rep, I just happened to see a heck lot of comments in YouTube videos about him and that led me to believe that, Porky seemed underrated for me.
Anyone who claims to know the results of the ballot is bull****ting.

Unless it’s Sakurai.
 

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Porky was definitely underrated.

I don't remember there ever being a topic for Porky during the ballot days nor during Smash Switch speculation. There was no smashified for Porky. And despite all the talk of wanting villains no one ever brought him up. Porky didn't rank low on polls because it felt like no one even bothered to ask about him.

Which is why I made this thread. Because even I, who wasn't an Earthbound fan, thought it was weird that what was probably the most recognized villain of the series was nowhere to be seen.
It's still funny to remember that Ness and Lucas are one of the only characters in Smash that are heavily loved and played but almost no one played their games. Actually, Porky was the reason I got into Earthbound! I've been trying to beat Mother 3, but sadly didn't try Earthbound yet, although I know the whole story already...

It'd also be interesting to see a Smashified Porky! We got a Brawl version, so that's something, but I wonder if maybe they'll do an Earthbound spider-mech Smashified Porky!
 

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Porky/Pokey was always a character I wanted, but never thought would make it in the game. However, I'll do what I can to help out anyway. Count me in as a supporter!
 

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Anyone who claims to know the results of the ballot is bull****ting.

Unless it’s Sakurai.
I'm blind cause in the text that appears at the top says that the list is not official in any way, forgot to mention that.
 
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So I just saw this "leak", and I just hope it's real! The list is extremely convincing to me, except for Globox, and if any of you say the spelling being bad means fake, think that English isn't the only language, perhaps he may be from another country and just don't know English perfectly. All of my hopes are on this leak right now!
https://www.reddit.com/r/supersmash...sh_ultimate_leak_via_nintendo_employe_freind/
 
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So I just saw this "leak", and I just hope it's real! The list is extremely convincing to me, except for Globox, and if any of you say the spelling being bad means fake, think that English isn't the only language, perhaps he may be from another country and just don't know English perfectly. All of my hopes are on this leak right now!
https://www.reddit.com/r/supersmash...sh_ultimate_leak_via_nintendo_employe_freind/
It’s heavily untrue. Suddenly he knows every character except which Pokémon is in, but he knows it’s Gen 7?

Also, Sakurai is spelled the same in every language, so no, the poor spelling isn’t an excuse.
 

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That list has 13 unique fighters, we been told not to expect to many new fighters remember.
We got 16 newcomers in Sm4sh counting DLC and 12 without DLC, although I can't say this makes a point but why not.
EDIT: Also Sakurai some times likes to troll us, we can expect anything from him at this point.

It’s heavily untrue. Suddenly he knows every character except which Pokémon is in, but he knows it’s Gen 7?

Also, Sakurai is spelled the same in every language, so no, the poor spelling isn’t an excuse.
I've heard that Greninja didn't even have a name when Sm4sh was being worked on, but they were already working on Greninja, although don't know if moves or basically the model, since they already had the sketches of his design. Also I didn't quite understand the last part, if you'd mind clarifying to me what you meant that would be cool.
 
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I've heard that Greninja didn't even have a name when Sm4sh was being worked on, but they were already working on Greninja, although don't know if moves or basically the model, since they already had the sketches of his design. Also I didn't quite understand the last part, if you'd mind clarifying to me what you meant that would be cool.
Even if whatever new Pokémon it is didn’t have a name when development started, it certainly does now, so any leaker should know it.

As for the second part, you say bad spelling doesn’t necessarily kill the leak because English might not be the leaker’s first language. I disagree. Even if you aren’t great at English, that shouldn’t affect how you spell proper nouns like Sakurai or Ridley.

The leak just screams fake all over. Like, this leaker’s friend has a high position in Nintendo? What would a guy like that gain from leaking?
 

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I pretty much got hyped with this leak due to it having Porky and Rayman, which are one of my most wanted, and I wanted it very badly to be true. But if we really use common sense I understand that those are too many newcomers.

Even if whatever new Pokémon it is didn’t have a name when development started, it certainly does now, so any leaker should know it.

As for the second part, you say bad spelling doesn’t necessarily kill the leak because English might not be the leaker’s first language. I disagree. Even if you aren’t great at English, that shouldn’t affect how you spell proper nouns like Sakurai or Ridley.

The leak just screams fake all over. Like, this leaker’s friend has a high position in Nintendo? What would a guy like that gain from leaking?
****. Sorry man, I completely missed the misspelling of Sakurai and Ridley, I'm extremely blind. I'm very sorry about that man.
 
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