POLL: Vote for your preferred Smash Bros DLC choices!

[YoshiandToad]

I like how people who don't like other's personal preferences suggest said characters would be a waste or are idiotic choices because THEY don't want them.

Keep it classy Smashboards.

 

[theenlightenedone]

Then I would like to also rephrase

Squirtle and Ivysaur are second party.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Why is there no Young Link option when there's Pichu to choose from.

 

[theenlightenedone]

Why is there no Young Link option when there's Pichu to choose from.

That is a great point I can't believe I didn't catch that because I mained Young Link for A while now I main G&W mainly. Also Toon Link isn't as good as Young Link.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Squirtle and Ivysaur are second party.

At this point they are basically first, they haven't escaped of Nintendo an their series has been there since the start. Same with Wolf and Lucas

 

[Rockaphin]

Still voting for Paper Mario, I don't care if we already have two Mario's.

 

[theenlightenedone]

At this point they are basically first, they haven't escaped of Nintendo an their series has been there since the start. Same with Wolf and Lucas

Still they are second party and I would like to see wolf back because he is a villain but he just need to be less cloney because he wasn't a total clone but needs to be less than he was.

 

[theenlightenedone]

Still voting for Paper Mario, I don't care if we already have two Mario's.

There need to be a different paper Mario rep other than paper Mario.

 

[Rockaphin]

There need to be a different paper Mario rep other than paper Mario.

I think Paper Mario would best represent the series. Yeah Dimentio or Count Bleck could work, but the various partners, badges, equipment, and items would more than likely be left out.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Still they are second party and I would like to see wolf back because he is a villain but he just need to be less cloney because he wasn't a total clone but needs to be less than he was.

I still don't see why people think Lucas and Wolf are clones they play completely different to Fox, Falco and Ness.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Lucas, Wolf, Roy, Dixie and Bandanna Dee are the most likely imo.

 

[theenlightenedone]

I still don't see why people think Lucas and Wolf are clones they play completely different to Fox, Falco and Ness.

Actually they are semi clones not total clones but still similar thats why.

Also I originally felt like Pichu was a waste of a vote and a stupid request for a character to return but now that I have thought about it more I would love to see him return because He is the joke character and smash bros. always needs a Joke character which originally was Jigglypuff but, I don't take Jigglypuff as a Joke I see her as a full on fledged character and I believe we either need a brand new joke character or the return of Pichu. What do you guys think?

 

[Johnknight1]

If Wolf is a semi-clone of Fox, then Jigglypuff is a semi-clone of Kirby, given that both characters share approximately 2 or 3 moves.

LOL Didn't you say the same thing about people who supported DHD?

Yes, but we never got the Duck Hunt Dog, we got a mix of the functionality of the NES Zapper in Duck Hunt (an idea I tossed around), Banjo Kazooie (with the Duck and the Dog combined together [in Duck Hunt the dog collects the dead ducks]), the Wild Gunman, and the Hogan's Alley bombs.

That's literally nothing like you or any Duck Hunt fans described. It's more what the NES Zapper and Banjo Kazooie fans described. And I had tossed the idea of the NES Zapper around, but quite frankly like nearly everyone else (including you and the Doge fans), no one combined it and Banjo Kazooie. It was the development team's genius idea that you or your fellow duck Hunt Dog fans didn't think of.

Your description of the idea of a Duck Hunt Dog was about as awful as your idea with Meowth with 6 different attacks named "Payday". None of your guys' ideas were anything like what Duck Hunt is like in Smash 4; it's mostly just awful ideas like the ones you find in terrible Smash fan games (aka all of them), in this case Smash Crusade.

Edit: Also, this is funny coming from the person who didn't know Link had a second attack in his fSmash.

 

[theenlightenedone]

If Wolf is a semi-clone of Fox, then Jigglypuff is a semi-clone of Kirby, given that both characters share approximately 2 or 3 moves.

Yes, but we never got the Duck Hunt Dog, we got a mix of the functionality of the NES Zapper in Duck Hunt (an idea I tossed around), Banjo Kazooie (with the Duck and the Dog combined together [in Duck Hunt the dog collects the dead ducks]), the Wild Gunman, and the Hogan's Alley bombs.

That's literally nothing like you or any Duck Hunt fans described. It's more what the NES Zapper and Banjo Kazooie fans described. And I had tossed the idea of the NES Zapper around, but quite frankly like nearly everyone else (including you and the Doge fans), no one combined it and Banjo Kazooie. It was the development team's genius idea that you or your fellow duck Hunt Dog fans didn't think of.

Your description of the idea of a Duck Hunt Dog was about as awful as your idea with Meowth with 6 different attacks named "Payday". None of your guys' ideas were anything like what Duck Hunt is like in Smash 4; it's mostly just awful ideas like the ones you find in terrible Smash fan games (aka all of them), in this case Smash Crusade.

Edit: Also, this is funny coming from the person who didn't know Link had a second attack in his fSmash.

Did I miss something?

 

[Johnknight1]

Did I miss something?

No, not really.

Squirtle and Ivysaur are second party.

As are all the Fire Emblem characters, Isaac, all Pokémon properties, all the Kirby characters, all MOTHER characters, etc.

Nintendo has a ton of 2nd parties, although to be fair they do at least own split rights to those characters. They have largely prevented "another Rare situation" from happening. I think ultimately the lack of Banjo, Perfect Dark, and Conker in their arsenal of IP's and characters really hurt them, and I doubt they want that to happen again.

 

[BluePikmin11]

@ Arcadenik tried his best to make a DHD moveset.
Not all of us excel in creativity.

 

[theenlightenedone]

No, not really.

As are all the Fire Emblem characters, Isaac, all Pokémon properties, all the Kirby characters, all MOTHER characters, etc.

Nintendo has a ton of 2nd parties, although to be fair they do at least own split rights to those characters. They have largely prevented "another Rare situation" from happening. I think ultimately the lack of Banjo, Perfect Dark, and Conker in their arsenal of IP's and characters really hurt them, and I doubt they want that to happen again.

OK first of all you took my first quote out of context read the post before it then you will understand. Also Nintendo let Rare keep all of their own created IPs just wouldn't let them take the ones that belonged to Nintendo at first but, Nintendo could have kept Banjo, Conker and all of those other IPs that Rare created while working with them if they wanted to. Don't know why they didn't though.

 

[Arcadenik]

If Wolf is a semi-clone of Fox, then Jigglypuff is a semi-clone of Kirby, given that both characters share approximately 2 or 3 moves.

Yes, but we never got the Duck Hunt Dog, we got a mix of the functionality of the NES Zapper in Duck Hunt (an idea I tossed around), Banjo Kazooie (with the Duck and the Dog combined together [in Duck Hunt the dog collects the dead ducks]), the Wild Gunman, and the Hogan's Alley bombs.

That's literally nothing like you or any Duck Hunt fans described. It's more what the NES Zapper and Banjo Kazooie fans described. And I had tossed the idea of the NES Zapper around, but quite frankly like nearly everyone else (including you and the Doge fans), no one combined it and Banjo Kazooie. It was the development team's genius idea that you or your fellow duck Hunt Dog fans didn't think of.

Your description of the idea of a Duck Hunt Dog was about as awful as your idea with Meowth with 6 different attacks named "Payday". None of your guys' ideas were anything like what Duck Hunt is like in Smash 4; it's mostly just awful ideas like the ones you find in terrible Smash fan games (aka all of them), in this case Smash Crusade.

Edit: Also, this is funny coming from the person who didn't know Link had a second attack in his fSmash.

Oh really? You had moveset ideas for DHD in the past? Then why did you not make a DHD moveset and share it with the DHD supporters in the DHD thread? Why did you repeatedly say that it was impossible for you and the "top posters" to come up with a moveset for DHD?

Also, if you had looked at my DHD moveset in the DHD thread, you'd notice that I suggested that DHD's moveset would involve the person shooting with the NES Zapper from the fourth wall. Yeah, don't act like I and the DHD fans didn't come up with the "fourth wall shooter" idea...

Oh, let's go back in time to February 6, 2005 when I made a DHD moveset. I mentioned Banjo-Kazooie right there and some of the moves I suggested were based off Banjo-Kazooie. I had more moveset ideas that I kept changing around... like on September 19, 2007 and June 10, 2008. Interestingly enough, the 2008 moveset had the hunter shooting from the fourth wall as part of the Smash moves. Oh, and DHD does have the cartwheel move from Crusade. DHD also throws clay pigeons and the duck carries DHD just like my movesets suggested and that's what DHD does in Crusade. Also, my 2007 moveset had the duck pecking enemies for DHD's forward and backward aerials (except I suggested that the duck pecks repeatedly).

 

[theenlightenedone]

Oh really? You had moveset ideas for DHD in the past? Then why did you not make a DHD moveset and share it with the DHD supporters in the DHD thread? Why did you repeatedly say that it was impossible for you and the "top posters" to come up with a moveset for DHD?

Also, if you had looked at my DHD moveset in the DHD thread, you'd notice that I suggested that DHD's moveset would involve the person shooting with the NES Zapper from the fourth wall. Yeah, don't act like I and the DHD fans didn't come up with the "fourth wall shooter" idea...

Oh, let's go back in time to February 6, 2005 when I made a DHD moveset. I mentioned Banjo-Kazooie right there and some of the moves I suggested were based off Banjo-Kazooie. I had more moveset ideas that I kept changing around... like on September 19, 2007 and June 10, 2008. Interestingly enough, the 2008 moveset had the hunter shooting from the fourth wall as part of the Smash moves. Oh, and DHD does have the cartwheel move from Crusade. DHD also throws clay pigeons and the duck carries DHD just like my movesets suggested and that's what DHD does in Crusade. Also, my 2007 moveset had the duck pecking enemies for DHD's forward and backward aerials (except I suggested that the duck pecks repeatedly).

I don't think this conversation is meant for or appropriate for this thread.

I am wondering how you can cast a ballot and not have the Ice Climbers on it? Can someone who didn't vote for the Ice Climbers explain this to me?

 

[Arcadenik]

I am wondering how you can cast a ballot and not have the Ice Climbers on it? Can someone who didn't vote for the Ice Climbers explain this to me?

Huh? The Ice Climbers are on the very top of the list.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I am wondering how you can cast a ballot and not have the Ice Climbers on it? Can someone who didn't vote for the Ice Climbers explain this to me?

They don't like/care about the Ice Climbers? It's not complicated.

I voted for them but I don't expect everyone else to vote for them. (Same for any other character I voted for)

 

[theenlightenedone]

They don't like/care about the Ice Climbers? It's not complicated.

Huh? The Ice Climbers are on the very top of the list.

I meant by votes
I voted for them but I don't expect everyone else to vote for them. (Same for any other character I voted for)

I mean how could some when they went to vote for wolf not also check off the Ice Climbers?

 

[Dinoman96]

I don't think this conversation is meant for or appropriate for this thread.

I am wondering how you can cast a ballot and not have the Ice Climbers on it? Can someone who didn't vote for the Ice Climbers explain this to me?

I think low expectations have something to do with it.

I'd love to have the ICs back and if it were possible, I believe they should be first in line to be brought back, but remember they were cut due to technical limitations of the 3DS. If these issues really can't be resolved, then I don't think we'll be seeing the Ice Climbers until Smash 5.

 

[Kenith]

Excuse me, but could Ghirahim, Saki, Dillon, Tingle, Midna, Phosphora, Riki, Ashley, and Waluigi to this poll?

 

[Dinoman96]

Excuse me, but could Ghirahim, Saki, Dillon, Tingle, Midna, Phosphora, Riki, Ashley, and Waluigi to this poll?

The thing is, those characters already have prominent roles as assist trophies and what not. Characters like Dixie, Wolf, Lucas, Mewtwo etc being regular trophies doesn't eliminate them as DLC choices because trophies are relatively minor compared to stuff like being an assist trophy or stage hazard, what with being moving 3D models that affect the gameplay.

 

[Kenith]

The thing is, those characters already have prominent roles as assist trophies and what not. Characters like Dixie, Wolf, Lucas, Mewtwo etc being regular trophies doesn't eliminate them as DLC choices because trophies are relatively minor compared to stuff like being an assist trophy or stage hazard, what with being moving 3D models that affect the gameplay.

If I cared about this, I would not have suggested them. I believe Assist Trophies are not relevant to DLC content.
But that, in and of itself, it irrelevant. This is a poll for what DLC characters I would like to see, however I don't want to constantly check 'Other' when some of these characters are relatively important.

 

[theenlightenedone]

I think low expectations have something to do with it.

I'd love to have the ICs back and if it were possible, I believe they should be first in line to be brought back, but remember they were cut due to technical limitations of the 3DS. If these issues really can't be resolved, then I don't think we'll be seeing the Ice Climbers until Smash 5.

He said they weren't worth the time or resources during development to fix but once the Wii U version is out then they will have the time and resources to fix them since basically everything is done except for a few DLC things.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I voted Lucas, Pichu, Squirtle, and Ivysaur because I played as all of them. Lucas and Pichu are probably the highest ones on my list since Mewtwo is already confirmed. I considered picking Other and stating Groose and Lana, but the only reason for that would be due to finding the idea of them playable as funny.

 

[theenlightenedone]

I voted Lucas, Pichu, Squirtle, and Ivysaur because I played as all of them. Lucas and Pichu are probably the highest ones on my list since Mewtwo is already confirmed. I considered picking Other and stating Groose and Lana, but the only reason for that would be due to finding the idea of them playable as funny.

You should mention that in the joke character thread.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

You should mention that in the joke character thread.

Finding them funny does not mean joke character. I find Wii Fit Trainer and Villager funny, but they aren't really considered joke characters...maybe Groose could be a joke character, but I could potentially imagine him being viable in some way.

 

[YoshiandToad]

He said they weren't worth the time or resources during development to fix but once the Wii U version is out then they will have the time and resources to fix them since basically everything is done except for a few DLC things.

There's also 8 player Smash which would mean 16 Ice Climbers on screen at once. I'm not sure of the Wii U's technical power, but that and the 3DS's technical limitations when with items on high, may be an unsurmountable mountain that these particular climbers cannot overcome.

 

[DoubleYooToo]

Some of my less popular choices, all of whom are cut veterans:
Roy:
I'm a big fan of his playstyle in Project M and Melee, if they change him in similar ways that the PMBR have from his melee iteration he could be a very distinct character from Marth and Lucina.
Pichu:
The more I think about it, the more it seems like there's potential there. Something like Pichu's self-damage being reworked so that using specials starts a buildup, and the longer you leave it without using an A move, the more damage you take, but using an A move will result in more strength proportionate to the length of the buildup. Would be an interesting mechanic, and not just a retread of Lucario's aura mechanic made even stronger by Pichu's power to damage itself.
Ivysaur:
Another one in Project M that made me appreciate the potential. Highly unique character, certainly moreso than Charizard.
Squirtle:
The same goes for Squirtle as what I said for Ivysaur, but he himself was already quite interesting and unique in Brawl, where Ivysaur was to a degree but was made more interesting in Project M. This would bring the Pokemon count up to 9, but I don't think that's too much of an issue, I've never really been a fan of Pokemon but they're all so unique it's arguably the biggest franchise in Super Smash Bros.

In general, I believe that all cut veterans should be brought back (except the Ice Climbers because as much as I like them it seems that's not a possibility, and potentially not Snake either because of the difficulties involved in licensing a third party character) because there's people who mained those characters that are left without the playstyle that suits them best now. Playing Marth and Lucina just isn't the same, Roy's my boy and I need him back. I'm not going to talk about Lucas, Wolf and Snake because they seem to be popular choices to return, and it's been said.

As far as newcomers, Dixie Kong and (maybe in a million years) Bayonetta please.

 

[ShrekItRalph]

In general, I believe that all cut veterans should be brought back (except the Ice Climbers because as much as I like them it seems that's not a possibility, and potentially not Snake either because of the difficulties involved in licensing a third party character) because there's people who mained those characters that are left without the playstyle that suits them best now.

Ehhhhh, I'm not going to tell you that you can't support characters you want, but Fire Emblem is a franchise with many popular characters... and Roy really isn't one of them. I strongly doubt that they will ever bring back Roy, if we get a 5th FE rep in Smash 4 it will most likely be a 3rd Awaking rep.

That and I would rather get new characters, Smash 4 isn't 64, Melee or Brawl so I don't mind that they don't have identical casts.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

There's also 8 player Smash which would mean 16 Ice Climbers on screen at once. I'm not sure of the Wii U's technical power, but that and the 3DS's technical limitations when with items on high, may be an unsurmountable mountain that these particular climbers cannot overcome.

 

[DoubleYooToo]

Ehhhhh, I'm not going to tell you that you can't support characters you want, but Fire Emblem is a franchise with many popular characters... and Roy really isn't one of them. I strongly doubt that they will ever bring back Roy, if we get a 5th FE rep in Smash 4 it will most likely be a 3rd Awaking rep.

Binding Blade is a game that they've talked about remaking in the past, so if that ever happens it'd be good as a tie-in and Roy himself is popular because of appearing in Melee. He also has a new, kickass design after appearing in Awakening DLC. A third Awakening rep would just be excessive imo, a second Shadow Dragon/Mystery of the Emblem character should come before that, maybe Caeda (she'd be unlike any other character, that's for sure.)

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Why is there no Young Link option when there's Pichu to choose from.

There's quite simply no reason to put Young Link up there. Having a 3rd Link is different from having a 2nd Pikachu anyway.

Excuse me, but could Ghirahim, Saki, Dillon, Tingle, Midna, Phosphora, Riki, Ashley, and Waluigi to this poll?

While I understand that people like those characters, and some may want them upgraded to playable from Assist Trophy, I will not add them to this poll for a few reasons.

First, quite simply, is because we've gotten a good amount of results thus far, and adding those characters now would be screwing them over as it stands. We've had over 500 people vote on this poll, so those are over 500 people who wouldn't be able to vote for those specific characters. I plan on making another poll every time we get a brand new DLC character, but I probably will still not include any of those characters because of the following reason.

Second, every character you listed already has a role elsewhere beyond a trophy. While many fans out there would still like to see those characters, this poll is meant specifically for characters that are only a trophy, with nothing going beyond that. My reasoning for this stems from the fact that coding (probably lots of coding) was put into the game to program various Assist Trophies or Stage bosses, and I find it INCREDIBLY unlikely that we'd see Sakurai or the DLC team backtrack on somebody else's work. If any of those characters were planned or kept in mind for a future project, I don't think they would go as far as to put them in an important position like AT or Boss character. That's simply my opinion.

Basically, as stated in the OP, this poll contains characters that aren't disconfirmed by any means and have nothing beyond a trophy (although I put Kamek there, which is a mistake). On the next poll, there might be different choices based on the outcome for a few characters on the current poll (looking at you Reyn), so there will be some fresh things. But I will most likely not add the characters you listed.

 

[BluePikmin11]

That's only a numerical difference, which shouldn't really matter at all.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

That's only a numerical difference, which shouldn't really matter at all.

Perhaps, but he'd be a 3rd Link. Young Link was essentially replaced by Toon Link in Brawl. I personally have never considered Young Link missing from the game; just there in a different form. Bottom line is that I don't see a good enough reason to add him to a poll in the future.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I treat every character as their own.
Just because he was "replaced" doesn't mean he can't come back as DLC.
Especially when there are some potential signs that can help his chances. (the inevitable) MM3D remake)

 

[Strofirko]

This thread is getting "hot"for some reason.