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So the question is when, I'm guessing an EVO reveal, since the Arcade version is now all caught up, and that's when the game will have the biggest spotlight.
The best part about this is now I know what a bald Chandelure looks like.
The only way slow-charging supports are getting more than one use in a round from anyone not named Braixen is if you burn them near the start of a round, which is not always feasible. And if you don't have a cheer on them, you'll be lucky if you can even get to use them at all. There's a reason slow/slow pairs are unpopular, though Dragonite/Victini do still give strong benefits, and Magneton/Quagsire may be tough to use effectively, but can still be strong. Magneton can be used in combos off launchers, or to start them near a wall, or just stuff reckless jumping, with a hefty status debuff as a bonus (synergy weaken plus random stat debuff). Quagsire is good for forcing reactions.
Sceptile does plenty of healing from landing his moves, and is very good at stuffing approaches with varied land mines, swift counter Leaf Blade, and long-ranged duel light aerial among others. His combos and damage output generally aren't as good as the other speed characters without applying a defence debuff, but he has much more health and survivability, plus a much stronger burst mode.
Ah yes. Blocking. You know, pressing a button to do it as opposed to holding back is truly a double-edged sword. On one hand, it makes advancing while blocking easier. On the other hand, it imposes a mandatory raise/drop delay which increases it's vulnerability to sudden attacks or grabs.
Knew I wasn't the only one.
And that's not even half of this game's defensive issues, my friend. Wake-ups are abysmal because the developers apparently thought teching landings is for *******, and you can't do ANYTHING to alter your getup timing, so literally anyone can force you into a three-way attack triangle guessing game when they knock you down. Oh, and those wallbounces that are supposed to help you get space to compose yourself after a beating? Anybody with at least decent speed has no trouble catching up to your harmless landing and repeating the same scenario there.
On God bruh.
I think they meant to say that the only real defence in this game is hard reads. The devs just put too much emphasis on using the attack triangle to get anywhere, which makes me question how deep skill really is in this game. The only true practice you need is being familiar with your character's combos and moves, after that it's just reading patterns. And you only need to make the right guesses a few times. So naturally the best characters are the ones who can play nasty keepaway (Chandelure, Braixen) to avoid having to play that game in the first place, or have moves that let them "cheat" the attack triangle (the Mewtwos and their Psystrikes, Garchomp and his Sand Tomb cancelling).
That match-altering mechanic is something I don't particularly like either, but other games sport similar types of power (like ST boxer, and some marvel games) so I can't point a finger at the game only.
Attacks are only relatively overpowered due to the weakness of blocking. If they'd just allow something akin to SFIV reversals to bypass some of the blockstun to punish repetitive shield pressure (that say, doesn't stagger)... and if blocking was triggered by holding back instead of a button (at least for duel) it wouldn't be such a commitment. Having the choice between the two blocking methods would be extra nice, since there are some perks to the current method after all, like starting a charge without inputting a move first.
That's the question isn't it? The core of fighting games are RPS interactions, after all. How much is too much?
When it only takes a handful of those interactions to win. This kind of action is normally only reserved for heavy grapplers who have drawbacks elsewhere to offset their power relative to the cast, but in Pokken everyone can engage this due to the lack of inputting moves while guarding or dedicated throw escape command (you have to commit to an attack to beat throws) and launch devastating combos/damage.
It only takes two or three solid combos to take a stock, four to six to take a round, and eight to twelve to win a set and that's not counting interactions during stocks you lost in. How much is that compared to something "normal" like Street Fighter? To Marvel vs. Capcom?
Well, in Street Fighter (V especially), you generally have to make a pretty hefty commitment to land a big combo. The rest of the time is spent chipping away with low-risk, low reward moves. In Pokken such pokes are rare, and basically any move that isn't specifically a combo ender leads to significant damage. Marvel, on the other hand is actually even more volatile than Pokken, where basically any hit is death to a character (small mercy it's three-on-three... and there's a reason Smash 64 uses five stocks). Pokken also doesn't grant infinitely reusable assists.
Complaining about how strong Pokken's combos are... Kinda find it funny after everybody was complaining about the damage scaling. Though I get what you mean.
Normally I might agree with grabs being the weak link in the triangle... but with the previously mentioned commitment on blocking (mandatory raise/drop delay like in Smash, but without any of the out-of-shield options), and the prominence of fast armour-piercing and dash-cancellable moves, it's not hard at all to get someone to block and hit them with a grab they can't avoid.
Since blocking is so weak I just don't see it outside of a panic button or blocking specific things... Where I'm at I'd rather chance it with the triangle then get backed into a corner.
Oh, there's no such thing as a bad burst mode, just ones that don't provide as many tangible benefits as others... usually ones without mega evolutions (Chandelure probably has the "worst" since her moves gain no added effects and her burst attack is a counter with limited range)... though perhaps you could make the argument that Braixen doesn't really need any. As for her burst attack punishing any commitments, well you can say the same for a lot of other burst attacks (Charizard and his Searing Blaze are the undisputed rulers of this category), but hers doesn't cover jumps, and while it has a nice duration, plenty of fighters have ways of stalling it out.
I don't either, but then again that was a Suicune in GFs... Part of it is day 1 impressions where Mirror Coat shuts down autopilot zoning hard IMO. You still have to be pretty careful with her projectiles because they're all really slow and generally reactable, Not entirely sure what makes Suicune a bad MU past that but I definitely struggle against the character more then most others... I'm guessing it's the combination of zoning being tough and Suicune being capable enough up close to make it an uphill fight overall. Tonosoma's early-ish MU chart I believe had Suicune as a negative MU as well.
