Pokemon Metagame Tier List discussion

[Zook]

Discuss .

 

[Terywj [태리]]

What? Venusaur made BL?

Wow...

-Ter

 

[TombStone]

Wait... Since when was Deoxys-E BL?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Wait... Since when was Deoxys-E BL?

That surprised me too...

-Ter

 

[sonofthesky]

ARTICUNO IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR NU.

What the ****?

 

[D13]

Wait... Since when was Deoxys-E BL?

Yeah, seriously. Deoxys-E is a ridiculously good late game sweeper.

 

[Platypus]

Bravo to you, Zook, for bringing the tier list here. I was searching for it!

Also, I think that Articuno is around NU because of the TM-ication of Rock Slide.

 

[Zook]

Bravo to you, Zook, for bringing the tier list here. I was searching for it!

Also, I think that Articuno is around NU because of the TM-ication of Rock Slide.

Let us not forget the widespred use of Stelath Rocks, a new, more powerful Rock move (SE, any one?) and the bird's generally poor movepool.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Articuno has a generally Defensive movepool/Stat distribution, but considering its one of the worst defensive types in the game, the only thing its really made to do, it cant. Even non-Stab stone edge is going to ruin the thing and even NU pokemon wouldn't have much trouble from it with stealth rocks up. In comparison, Moltres, the OTHER defensive Legendary Bird, has the added bonus of resisting Fire and Fighting, two extremely common moves in the OU metagame and has access to Will-o-Wisp to weaken powerful Stone Edges to non-OHKO levels.

 

[estion11]

this list is so flawed OU and BL need to be switched around significantly

 

[The Postman]

Who ever made this list is remedial.

 

[tyler36]

i agree garchomp is uber

 

[Zook]

Hmm, methinks Neoseeker doesn't have the most up-to-date tier list around. Sorry guys, I'll find a better one.

 

[jigglyppuff8]

Uh... Smogon?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

^Yeah, Gallade is OU on Smogon. (YES!)

-Ter

 

[Platypus]

Speaking of Smogon...

This should be tagged- I mean, this should be sticky'd.

Additionally, I don't think that Smeargle belongs in BL. It's not fast enough to get most things out without the Focus Sash.

 

[choknater]

With the platinum update, the tier list is going to change GREATLY.

 

[ss118]

this list made me lol

 

[Zook]

Looking back, I suppose I should've, you know, read the actual list before posting it.

 

[jigglyppuff8]

This list can't be up to date. Garchomp isn't uber and Deoxys-S isn't OU for starters... And Porygon-Z is BL now.

 

[Platypus]

Just a little while ago, Garchomp was made Uber, no? I recall a thread as such...

Was the decision rescinded?

 

[Bowser King]

Just a little while ago, Garchomp was made Uber, no? I recall a thread as such...

Was the decision rescinded?

Nope. Chomp is still uber, the list just isn't up to date.

-Bowser King

 

[M.K]

This list can't be up to date. Garchomp isn't uber and Deoxys-S isn't OU for starters... And Porygon-Z is BL now.

NO WAY!
Porygon-Z = RA PE!

 

[jigglyppuff8]

Mario Probopass, base 90 speed, azelf, Blissey... Yeah.

 

[Chill]

What was the point of posting a out of date tier list? Even if it was accurate I don't see the point.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Me thoughts Gallade was OU. Whatever.

-Ter

 

[TehBo49]

Here's the current list:

UBER
Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-D
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Wobbuffet

OVERUSED
Azelf
Blissey
Breloom
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Deoxys-S
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Dusknoir
Electivire
Forretress
Gallade
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Hippowdon
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Lucario
Machamp
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Metagross
Milotic
Roserade
Salamence
Scizor
Skarmory
Snorlax
Spiritomb
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tentacruel
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Vaporeon
Weavile
Yanmega
Zapdos

BORDERLINE
Abomasnow
Alakazam
Ambipom
Arcanine
Azumarill
Blaziken
Charizard
Crobat
Donphan
Empoleon
Entei
Espeon
Exeggutor
Feraligatr
Floatzel
Flygon
Gardevoir
Hariyama
Honchkrow
Houndoom
Kingdra
Lickilicky
Ludicolo
Magmortar
Marowak
Medicham
Mesprit
Mismagius
Moltres
Ninjask
Pinsir
Porygon-Z
Porygon2
Raikou
Rampardos
Regice
Regigigas
Regirock
Registeel
Rhyperior
Sceptile
Shaymin
Slaking
Slowbro
Slowking
Smeargle
Staraptor
Tangrowth
Tauros
Torterra
Typhlosion
Umbreon
Ursaring
Uxie
Zangoose

UNDERUSED
Absol
Aerodactyl
Aggron
Altaria
Ampharos
Arbok
Ariados
Armaldo
Articuno
Banette
Bastiodon
Beautifly
Beedrill
Bellossom
Bibarel
Blastoise
Butterfree
Cacturne
Camerupt
Carnivine
Castform
Chatot
Cherrim
Chimecho
Clamperl
Claydol
Clefable
Cloyster
Corsola
Cradily
Craudant
Delcatty
Delibird
Dewgong
Ditto
Dodrio
Drapion
Driftblim
Dunsparce
Dustox
Electrode
Exploud
Farfetch'd
Fearow
Flareon
Froslass
Furret
Gastrodon
Girafarig
Glaceon
Glalie
Golduck
Golem
Gorebyss
Granbull
Grumpig
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Hitmontop
Huntail
Hypno
Illumise
Jumpluff
Jynx
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Kecleon
Kingler
Kricketune
Lanturn
Lapras
Leafeon
Ledian
Linoone
Lopunny
Lumineon
Lunatone
Luvdisc
Luxray
Magcargo
Manectric
Mantine
Maquerain
Mawile
Meganium
Mightyena
Miltank
Minun
Mothim
Mr. Mime
Muk
Nidoking
Nidqueen
Ninetales
Noctowl
Octillery
Omastar
Pachirisu
Parasect
Pelipper
Persian
Phione
Pidgeot
Pikachu
Plusle
Politoed
Poliwrath
Primeape
Probopass
Purugly
Quagsire
Qwilfish
Raichu
Rapidash
Raticate
Relicanth
Rotom
Sableye
Sandslash
Scyther
Seaking
Seviper
Sharpedo
Shedinja
Shiftry
Shuckle
Skuntank
Solrock
Spinda
Stantler
Steelix
Sudowoodo
Sunflora
Swalot
Swellow
Torkoal
Toxicroak
Trapinch
Tropius
Unown
Venomoth
Venasaur
Vespiquen
Victreebel
Vigoroth
Vielplume
Volbeat
Wailord
Wailrein
Weezing
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Wormadam
Wormadam-G
Wormadam-S
Xatu

NEVERUSED
(currently none)

 

[Overload]

Edit: Nvm.

 

[MorphedChaos]

I'd like to ask with Gardevoir is BL, she has a very very diverse move pool. Might be the lack of Ice bean and Flamethrower, but with Signal beam now, Thats a really good move.

 

[Zook]

Alright, seeing as how there really is no tier list yet, this is now TL discussion. Who do you think will move? Discuss!

 

[sonofthesky]

slaking will move

 

[MorphedChaos]

Is this for Singles or doubles? As Slaking is basically OU in doubles if you got a skill swapper.

 

[H@wK]

You think Salamence will jump to UBER thnx to Platinum Tutor teaching Outrage?

 

[jigglyppuff8]

The New OU list contains the following Pokemon:
Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Azelf
Blissey
Breloom
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Deoxys-S
Donphan
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Dusknoir
Electivire
Forretress
Gallade
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Hippowdon
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Kingdra
Lucario
Machamp
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Metagross
Milotic
Ninjask
Porygon-Z
Roserade
Salamence
Scizor
Shaymin-S
Skarmory
Snorlax
Spiritomb
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tentacruel
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Vaporeon
Weavile
Yanmega
Zapdos

Takes platinum into account.
Forget what I said about Porygon-Z earlier... Why is Skymin in here... they must of been drunk.

 

[TehBo49]

Skymin should be uber IMO.

The new Rotoms should be OU. I see them all the time on shoddy.

 

[jigglyppuff8]

Maybe "literally" OU, but at most I see them being BL. Not much has changed except their stats and I don't even think that stat chnage is enough to make much of a difference. Spiritomb has a better typing than Forme Rotom so...

 

[The Postman]

Maybe "literally" OU, but at most I see them being BL. Not much has changed except their stats and I don't even think that stat chnage is enough to make much of a difference. Spiritomb has a better typing than Forme Rotom so...

Having them in BL does not make a difference and that is decided upon usage statistics.
I, myself, have never used the Rotom forms so I have no experience using them.
But I have seen them , wash or heat, on almost every team, along with Kingdra, Heatran, Skymin, and Scizor.


Skymin is a scary sight when the hax starts to kick in, but it is very easy to handle if you have the right Pokemon. The Subseed set seems to be the most effective and used, it pretty much destroys Blissey, Snorlax, Milotic, and Vaporeon.

 

[TehBo49]

Maybe "literally" OU, but at most I see them being BL. Not much has changed except their stats and I don't even think that stat chnage is enough to make much of a difference. Spiritomb has a better typing than Forme Rotom so...

The only difference between BL & OU is frequency of use.

 

[Zook]

Kingdra, really? I've never seen one of them on Shoddy. What do they do, Rain Dance sweep?

 

[Platypus]

That and the distinct lack of weaknesses give it popularity, I suppose.