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What rest buff?
Talking about fromy brawl and trust me I've run into mamy a people who say puff is "broken" because of rest
I honestly wanna say ryu wins this match up his hard hitting air game combined with a hard to gimp recovery makes approaching ryu difficult but with proper spacing as jiggs should be doing its not impossible just heavily in ryus favorI wouldn't say that Dair is that hard to land raw. You can retreat with it to catch approaches, and it's pretty alright on shield in general. It's also a lot more useful on platforms (though sadly our poor vertical mobility means we can't always capitalize on that if we're not already there, but they certainly make killing with Rest less of a chore), and since it covers multiple ledge options on its own you can use it there to start a wall of pain.
By and large, though, it's nothing that would merit a nerf from Sakurai, especially not from one person suddenly starting to use it. He's terrified to touch us anyways, maybe he's afraid we'll Rest him if he does
Aaaaaanyway, let's get back to the discussion at hand. Any more input from the Ryu players?
Hunh never thought about it I knew you could challenge tatsu hell all you really have to do is duck and rest of her misses the ledge but I didn't know you could challenge a true shoryuken
40:60
he's not even close to be hard to gimp. Only problem is his SUPER LINEAR invincible up b. If they are trying to rely on that, you can easily intercept their air path to their sweetspot zone.
Dash attack is a decent edgeguarding tool in some specific situations, but I don't think it helps a lot in this MU tbh.
She only has invincibility on her legs while the attack is active.
I always thought Dash Attack had invincibility. What does it not beat?
What is trample?
Trample is a property on moves that clank where unlike most other moves, the attack just continues instead of both colliding moves stopping with that recoil animation. Because of this, if you collide strong dash attack with any other (grounded) clankable move that does less than 19%, you continue with the weak hit. This still doesn't mean you outright win the trade, particularly if both moves have trample, in which case the (second) hitbox that hits first generally wins. If you hit an aerial it also disregards trample just because aerials always trade when possible.
Yep. Trample is great for approaching on the ground because if you read moves that are within the threshold that it can beat, you can score nicely. However, because dash attack is unsafe on hit at %s lower than about 40 or so, I wouldn't use it as an early approach option.
Like another round character? *cough
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I pretty much agree with everything you said in your post but I'm going to have to correct you on this. Puff's advantaged state is actually pretty nice- the existence of Rest makes that an inherent part of her character, and her combos into it coupled with Fair WoP make you really regret letting her get in. Pound is no Collarbone Breaker but it can make you question shielding if she's given the chance to pressure yours (puff can bring shield to breaking point with one or two aerials), and she can play stupidly lame if she gets a percent or even a stock lead.
fair rest