PM Arts and Alts Thread

[GFooChombey]

Things are really slowing down around here..

In honor of the current stage discussion thread, I have a burning question. Why doesn't Snake wear the outfit from Twin Snakes since it was one of his few appearances on a Nintendo console?
Edit: And at the time of Brawl, his most recent.

Spoiler

 

[AceGamer]

I think you guys should give Charizards f tilt a fire effect, would be a cool reference to the move fire fang

 

[Nefnoj]

I think you guys should give Charizards f tilt a fire effect, would be a cool reference to the move fire fang

I think it should be done only on the sweetspot.

Things are really slowing down around here..

In honor of the current stage discussion thread, I have a burning question. Why doesn't Snake wear the outfit from Twin Snakes since it was one of his few appearances on a Nintendo console?
Edit: And at the time of Brawl, his most recent.

Spoiler

The colours are pretty similar to Snake's standard colours, but everything else is different enough that it'll definitely work! Now you'll have to forgive my lack of Metal Gear knowledge, but isn't the Big Boss costume from the Metal Gear remake on the 3DS?

Tuxedo

 

[Dastardly Ridleylash]

In terms of Bowser's run animation, why not just make it like it was in Mario 64? It's not cribbing Smash 4 and still pays homage to the games. I just really hate the stupid Bowserkart run because he's never done such things in a mainstream Mario game.

I mean granted, DK never fought Samus in a DK game, either, but these are supposed to be tributes to their characters in full, not having any made-up things that they don't have to. Hell, base it on the animation from the Olympic Games series, just give me a Bowser that doesn't pretend he's a damn vehicle every time he runs.

 

[GFooChombey]

If I'm remembering correctly, his run from 64 is very robotic like he can't move his limbs fluidly. Not sure if that will translate well to this.

 

[AceGamer]

Plus it was built for the old Bowser that had stubby arms and stood more t Rex like

 

[Comeback Kid]

That's why you would base it off the run from Super Mario 64 DS, which is better animated and the modern version with a very similar posture to Smash Bowser.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

In terms of Bowser's run animation, why not just make it like it was in Mario 64? It's not cribbing Smash 4 and still pays homage to the games. I just really hate the stupid Bowserkart run because he's never done such things in a mainstream Mario game.

I mean granted, DK never fought Samus in a DK game, either, but these are supposed to be tributes to their characters in full, not having any made-up things that they don't have to. Hell, base it on the animation from the Olympic Games series, just give me a Bowser that doesn't pretend he's a damn vehicle every time he runs.

Oh my god

Yes, please. This is honestly so funny. Just look at his lil' stubby arms

 

[Nefnoj]

Wouldn't the Brawl design be closer to the 64 design than the more recent designs though? The base design is improved from Melee, which is based off of a fancy 64 design... To an extent. I feel like the similarities from Brawl to the 64 is closer than Brawl to modernish.

 

[thatoneguynolan]

We need more Super Mario sound effects for the Bros tho. In Smash 4 Mario's Fireballs make a Super Mario Bros sound effect when he hits people with one

I know this post is kind of old but I actually made a hack for that recently if you want it http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=38250&Moderated=0 (I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to post links or something. I'm new to the site.)

 

[LightningDragon]

Whenever I see Bowser's run animation, I always hear the grinding sound of a granite statue sliding across the cement floor in my head. Which makes it even more amusing.

 

[Draco_The]

I know the PMDT already has more than enough work right now, but please, pleeeeeeeeeeeaase, improve the assist trophies.

Things like these (colors "out of bounds", seams, etc) shouldn't happen.

 

[Shin F.]

I know the PMDT already has more than enough work right now, but please, pleeeeeeeeeeeaase, improve the assist trophies.

Things like these (colors "out of bounds", seams, etc) shouldn't happen.

Is that really a priority? It's not exactly something that's very noticeable in-game, considering they don't stay onscreen for very long, assuming you even use ATs. If it's something that really bothers you, it wouldn't be hard to fix it up for yourself.

 

[GFooChombey]

Is that really a priority? It's not exactly something that's very noticeable in-game, considering they don't stay onscreen for very long, assuming you even use ATs. If it's something that really bothers you, it wouldn't be hard to fix it up for yourself.

Says the person who's got experience with that and the programs to do it. Seriously though, those ATs are hideous. I never noticed until Sm4sh revealed Little Mac and I did a comparison. Now I can't unsee them.

 

[CBO0tz]

I know this post is kind of old but I actually made a hack for that recently if you want it http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=38250&Moderated=0 (I'm sorry if I'm not allowed to post links or something. I'm new to the site.)

Thanks! I can't look at it because the Brawl Vault is down for me, but thanks!

 

[ArtfulHobbes]

If we see an official mod of the run animation in game, maybe people will change their mind and join the #freebowsersrun movement.

 

[Nanobuds]

http://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/3h76cz/about_awakening_roy/

Hello everyone, I hope you guys are excited about Project M 3.6!

I understand that some are wondering why Awakening Roy is not in the build. After showing the first render of the model, we listened the the general feedback on what everyone thought about it, and decided that it needed more work before releasing it into an official build. We have our best artists reworking the model to make it as accurate as possible. We apologize for the inconvenience, for we know this was a very much anticipated costume.

However you will not have to wait until the next major update for him. When the model is ready to go, we will release an optional patch just for Roy. The patch will contain only the costume and aesthetics, so there will be no major balance or gameplay changes.

In the meantime, enjoy playing Project M 3.6, and be sure to keep in touch for future announcements!

 

[GFooChombey]

That was a smart choice. Only the best.

 

[CBO0tz]

Uh, is anybody gonna get HYPE OVER THE NEW WARIO LAND STAGE??!
https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/3h7cj2/thanks_for_the_insane_amount_of_feedback/
:DD
(okay well its a reskin of Warioware but that's still badass)

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Uh, is anybody gonna get HYPE OVER THE NEW WARIO LAND STAGE??!
https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/3h7cj2/thanks_for_the_insane_amount_of_feedback/
:DD
(okay well its a reskin of Warioware but that's still badass)

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

So there apparently are hidden alts for a couple of the 64 stages, which are the original 64 designs, as those stages got new alts. Is there a chance of seeing this with other stages in the future? I kind of wish you made Ashleyware a hidden alt, as it would function the same as Wario Land. I feel like hidden alts would be great for alts that are only aesthetically different. I guess this could apply to Melee Battlefield too if you wanted to do something else with that.

 

[ConDeeCas]

WARIO LAND STAGE IS LOVE. WARIO LAND STAGE IS LIFE.

 

[The Incinerator]

Personally I feel like Dreamland would be a good chance to further try out this hidden alt feature by adding Green Greens to the game as the alt for Dreamland and making the 64 version the hidden alt, seems like it would work out nicely. Also I absolutely ADORE the new Waroland Stage!

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Personally I feel like Dreamland would be a good chance to further try out this hidden alt feature by adding Green Greens to the game as the alt for Dreamland and making the 64 version the hidden alt, seems like it would work out nicely. Also I absolutely ADORE the new Waroland Stage!

I agree with Green Greens. If N64 Saffron City becomes a hidden alt then I think Pokemon Stadium would make a good alt for that. Then they could make Brawl PS2 an alt for PM PS2.

 

[GFooChombey]

I actually like the combinations of Pokemon Stadiums, so long as they would drop the "2" from the title, but that's just me.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I actually like the combinations of Pokemon Stadiums, so long as they would drop the "2" from the title, but that's just me.

It's not a bad combo. I just miss the transforming PS2 from Brawl.

 

[Nefnoj]

I've missed out on too much, first thing's first, Awakening Roy, does he still have the purple. The purple is necessary.
Second thing! What's this whole "secret alt" business?

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I've missed out on too much, first thing's first, Awakening Roy, does he still have the purple. The purple is necessary.
Second thing! What's this whole "secret alt" business?

Awakening Roy hasn't been added yet. Secret alts are activated by pressing Z and A, and they're not shown on the stage select like normal alts. Hyrule Castle and Peach's Castle 64 variations are now secret alts, as those stages got new alts.

 

[ArtfulHobbes]

hey
back with more Sword queries
still not too keen on the idea of no Sword of Seals for Alt Roy, but I have another suggestion -
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why not give his Alt Durandal, his father Eliwood's legendary weapon (at least in FE7)? it's literally known as "the Blazing Sword". I'd kill to see this in smash.
see I can be non-canon and fun too guys

A lot of F-Zero characters have similar appearances to Captain Falcon, and not just talking about Blood Falcon:

Beastman:

Phoenix:

BABA:

That Durandal on Roy's alt is a fantastic idea.... I really hope thats considered. And I'm also one in favour of giving Captain Falcon a Phoenix Recolour. (Or alt? I dunno.) Maybe I'll make the recolour myself

Speaking of Falcon... I thought of a great addition that could be added. You know how people are always saying: "Why does Falcon have a gun if he never uses it?"
...
Secret Taunt where Falcon pulls out his gun. What does he do with it? I don't know. Clean it? Look at it and shout "HYES"? Shoot it? I don't know what he would do... but I'll leave that up in the air as a hilarious Falcon secret taunt.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

That Durandal on Roy's alt is a fantastic idea.... I really hope thats considered. And I'm also one in favour of giving Captain Falcon a Phoenix Recolour. (Or alt? I dunno.) Maybe I'll make the recolour myself

Speaking of Falcon... I thought of a great addition that could be added. You know how people are always saying: "Why does Falcon have a gun if he never uses it?"
...
Secret Taunt where Falcon pulls out his gun. What does he do with it? I don't know. Clean it? Look at it and shout "HYES"? Shoot it? I don't know what he would do... but I'll leave that up in the air as a hilarious Falcon secret taunt.

If only Falcon actually used his gun. Then he wouldn't be a Ganon clone.

 

[A6stringthing (A6ST)]

The Wario Land stage alone might make me go back to playing plumber Wario... It's gorgeous!

 

[Draco_The]

Posting here for better visibility: Lucario's black gi is still broken as of PM 3.6 Full.

Spoiler: evidence.png

Screenshot from Dolphin. The headband may look different in a Wii but for sure it won't look alright.
The file is using the default gi materials, and since the headband isn't just a texture replacement it fails to load properly.

I didn't find anything new regarding black gi lucario in 3.6b nor in 3.6f, so here's a download for the 3.5 costume files.

Also, the 3.6f zip has two Metal Cavern songs instead of just one. Whoever made the file forgot to delete the file A10.brstm.

 

[Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm]

So I haven't read all 300 pages of this thread so I don't know if this has been suggested and turned down before, but I think I finally thought of something from Pokémon that could potentially be used as an Ivysaur alt.

 

[Draco_The]

You can't have a different character as an alt, so no Ditto.

 

[Sandfall]

I mean, technically, you could do a ditto alt for anyone

 

[Narpas_sword]

If only we could make 'Random' slot randomize and load a character texture with the ditto eyes.
That would be gold.

 

[GFooChombey]

Spoiler

In case you haven't seen yet, there are coins representing the zones from Mario Land II in the new stage.

But where is Macro Zone?

 

[CND]

http://smashboards.com/threads/cnds...-with-stage-screenshots.380905/#post-19951525

I made a minor update to my screenshot gallery. It is the first time I am including screenshots highlighting the stages. I had hoped to include to more of the stages before I posted them there, but I felt I needed to separate them from the next time I update it (which will be dedicated to 3.6) since I had screenshots for 3.6 beta Delfino's Secret and Wario Ware. Hopefully I will update it soon with the various 3.6 changes and additions.

If only we could make 'Random' slot randomize and load a character texture with the ditto eyes.
That would be gold.

I don't even know how to properly respond to this. This would amazing. I hope there would be an influx of ditto mains.

 

[Rᴏb]

I'm loving the new Wario Land stage, but I have a small complaint. The lighting + the way shadows are cast don't really make sense. The platforms themselves don't cast shadows, but when you're on them you cast a shadow onto them as well as a second shadow on the main stage...

 

[CND]

I'm loving the new Wario Land stage, but I have a small complaint. The lighting + the way shadows are cast don't really make sense. The platforms themselves don't cast shadows, but when you're on them you cast a shadow onto them as well as a second shadow on the main stage...

I was just noticing this. Also, if you are under a platform there is a shadow on the platform above. Similar stuff happens on the Bowser's Castle alt, but I seem to remember shadows being weird elsewhere as well.

I really like the platforms on the Bowser's Castle alt being the platform from the SMB Bowser encounters. I am disappointed it took me a moment to recognize that.