PM Arts and Alts Thread

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Since we're talking about new or returning moves for characters, how about Pit being able to shoot arrows downward in the air and this is probably going to get some flack lol but I honestly want Marth to get his old stabbing animation for Shield Breaker to separate himself from Roy more. Just so Marth, Roy and Ike have different neutral Bs to represent their different styles

I agree with the Marth part. If they make his neutral B function like it does in Sm4sh then that would be great.

 

[ConDeeCas]

I don't get how you guys can remember all these moves like if you ask me any of bowsers moves I would say "ah he gets like big and stuff and then he smushes you with his butt" like I'm to casual of a player to be on this thread but I still am

 

[Nefnoj]

I agree with the Marth part. If they make his neutral B function like it does in Sm4sh then that would be great.

I had the same thought, since the hurty-parts are on the tip of the blade, wouldn't it be more effective as well? They could make his side-smash reference the Melee Shieldbreaker too.

I don't get how you guys can remember all these moves like if you ask me any of bowsers moves I would say "ah he gets like big and stuff and then he smushes you with his butt" like I'm to casual of a player to be on this thread but I still am

Don't worry brother, we still love you.
I'm a casual myself but don't tell anyone huehuehue.

 

[Draco_The]

I was playing Project M today and had a bunch of great ideas that I've already forgotten.

You when Bowser grabs an enemy with the Koopa Klaw, he kinda flumps them with his head? He should do the Flying Slam instead, that way both the beautiful Klaw and the slam are still in the game.

Also, I had a great idea that I forgot.

I'm all for Bowser getting some big changes, but the Flying Slam? No pls. It was just a cheap way to get a suicide kill.

 

[Nefnoj]

It was just a cheap way to get a suicide kill.

Exactly.



I wish Delfino Plaza had the statue and other Delfino things.

 

[Blitzus]

Kinda want Trainee Link from Hyrule Warriors.
Would be even sicker if he was using the White sword.

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[CBO0tz]

I wish Black tunic OoT Link was OoT Dark Link. Entirely black everything and red eyes. A deep echo-y voice would be icing on the cake.
Making regular Dark Link Twilight Princess Dark Link would be nice too.

 

[Nefnoj]

Here's something not discussed often... What're everybody's opinions on character sounds?

I personally wish that Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong sounded like they did in Donkey Kong 64, and one of wolf's taunts makes a weird unnatural wind sound thingy, which bugs me.
Someone mentioned Wario saying insults with his throw, which I think would be awesome. It'd also be neat if they made it so that Mario says "So long!" as he does a side throw.
When I first played Brawl, I thought it interesting that Lucario could talk. Now that I've actually played the Pokémon game that he's from, it's ridiculous. Especially when he's doing his Final Smash and says "WATCHTHEPOWEROFTHEAura". He kinda mumbles and it's hard to tell that he's actually saying words.
King Dedede makes some weird noises. Maybe they're nice I dunno I don't get paid to have opinions.
Some Metroid Prime noises for Samus would be neat too. Not too many though, just a few.

Kinda want Trainee Link from Hyrule Warriors.
Would be even sicker if he was using the White sword.
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Yeah... But all the Link slots are used up. I am sad.

 

[Narpas_sword]

If you dair offstage with wario, and miss:

 

[Nefnoj]

If you dair offstage with wario, and miss:

This human deserves a trophy.

 

[Blitzus]

Here's something not discussed often... What're everybody's opinions on character sounds?

I personally wish that Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong sounded like they did in Donkey Kong 64, and one of wolf's taunts makes a weird unnatural wind sound thingy, which bugs me.
Someone mentioned Wario saying insults with his throw, which I think would be awesome. It'd also be neat if they made it so that Mario says "So long!" as he does a side throw.
When I first played Brawl, I thought it interesting that Lucario could talk. Now that I've actually played the Pokémon game that he's from, it's ridiculous. Especially when he's doing his Final Smash and says "WATCHTHEPOWEROFTHEAura". He kinda mumbles and it's hard to tell that he's actually saying words.
King Dedede makes some weird noises. Maybe they're nice I dunno I don't get paid to have opinions.
Some Metroid Prime noises for Samus would be neat too. Not too many though, just a few.

Yeah... But all the Link slots are used up. I am sad.

Dump white Link. No one uses White Link

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Dump white Link. No one uses White Link

I actually do.....execpt it's a texture mod that makes it look like Fierce Diety Link, but still....

 

[Shin F.]

I had the same thought, since the hurty-parts are on the tip of the blade, wouldn't it be more effective as well? They could make his side-smash reference the Melee Shieldbreaker too.

You would lose the utility of having it as an overhead swing, and just putting it on his Side smash wouldn't let you use it in the air, so giving him the Brawl Shield Breaker is a nerf no matter how you slice it. So, probably not going to happen.

Kinda want Trainee Link from Hyrule Warriors.
Would be even sicker if he was using the White sword.
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There's a Hyrule Warriors costume pack on the vault with this. It's pretty new. I plan to get it soon.

Here's something not discussed often... What're everybody's opinions on character sounds?

I personally wish that Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong sounded like they did in Donkey Kong 64, and one of wolf's taunts makes a weird unnatural wind sound thingy, which bugs me.
Someone mentioned Wario saying insults with his throw, which I think would be awesome. It'd also be neat if they made it so that Mario says "So long!" as he does a side throw.
When I first played Brawl, I thought it interesting that Lucario could talk. Now that I've actually played the Pokémon game that he's from, it's ridiculous. Especially when he's doing his Final Smash and says "WATCHTHEPOWEROFTHEAura". He kinda mumbles and it's hard to tell that he's actually saying words.
King Dedede makes some weird noises. Maybe they're nice I dunno I don't get paid to have opinions.
Some Metroid Prime noises for Samus would be neat too. Not too many though, just a few.

Yeah... But all the Link slots are used up. I am sad.

I'd like to have Lucas sometimes actually say PK Freeze on his side special. Not every time, but on occasion like Ness does.

 

[TimeSmash]

@GP&B thanks, I was curious as to what they said. I'd love to see that incorporated again, with PM in mind haha.

Not really an Arts&Alts thing, but I would LOVE to see an Adventure mode more like Melee's. SSE does work now for everyone but I'd love to see something really different or modified in its place. Or with more Nintendo enemies

 

[Nefnoj]

@GP&B thanks, I was curious as to what they said. I'd love to see that incorporated again, with PM in mind haha.

Not really an Arts&Alts thing, but I would LOVE to see an Adventure mode more like Melee's. SSE does work now for everyone but I'd love to see something really different or modified in its place. Or with more Nintendo enemies

Something I've always wanted was an Adventure mode for each character. It ain't possible, though. I loved the Subspace, but I too like Melee's better, haha. I feel like this thread goes WAAAY beyond "arts and alts".

What was the GP&B bit about? I'm curious.

execpt it's a texture mod that makes it look like Fierce Diety Link, but still....

Me too don't go tellin' nobody.
AlGeorgeRomo's is the best. I helped a little bit with it.

I'd like to have Lucas sometimes actually say PK Freeze on his side special. Not every time, but on occasion like Ness does.

There's a mod that does that, though I think it's every time.

 

[TimeSmash]

It was on the previous page concerning Melee's SSS background, with the floating figures it had.

I guess I'd like a more Nintendo-ized SSE. While I'd love cutscenes they would take forever to make and look good, I really just want something that feels like more of a Melee adventure mode

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

If Marth's shield breaker was as good at breaking shields as it is in Sm4sh then I feel like that would make up for it not covering as much of an area. As a Lucina main, I absolutely love the Sm4sh shield breaker. It has proven to be very useful.

 

[Nanobuds]

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[TimeSmash]

OMG

Did you actually take my idea for the WarioWare stage background? <3<3<3

ALSO HYPE HYPE HYPE

ALSO HYPE FOR KIMONO PEACH

 

[Nefnoj]

Well.

Okay then.

I think my heart stopped.
I got to see it while it was unlisted because I'm special.

 

[Nanobuds]

OMG


ALSO HYPE FOR KIMONO PEACH

Lol what? She isn't in there... :V

 

[TimeSmash]

Lol what? She isn't in there... :V

YET

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I am speechless...

 

[Nefnoj]

THIS IS A CASTLE,
BUT IT'S NOT ROY'S ONE.

I love the painting in the background.
Also, Dark Suit Samus has her Gravity Pack.
WOAH WOAH WOAH, WHAT'S THAT OLIMAR RECOVERY?!! This'll be hard for an Olimain such as myself... I like his tether.

Say, Nanobuds ! Do you know how you guys decide on the numberage of the update? Why 3.6 and not 3.47 or 3.cool?

Lol what? She isn't in there... :V

You gotta look more CAREFULLY, she's in there, right behind those Meowser dreams!

 

[Blitzus]

interesting. Nano, could you describe Noki Bay Secret? like stage size, blast zones, etc?

 

[Nanobuds]

interesting. Nano, could you describe Noki Bay Secret? like stage size, blast zones, etc?

Dracula's Castle, but more colorful.

So its just a re-skin. "Delfino's Secret" is the name. We didn't want to keep using 3rd party things in the game.

THIS IS A CASTLE,


Say, Nanobuds ! Do you know how you guys decide on the numberage of the update? Why 3.6 and not 3.47 or 3.cool?

Dunno. Was 3.51 for a while. But we added a lot more than balance/bug fixes. So we made it 3.6.

 

[Xermo]

I love how you've implemented that idea to display sub-stages in the bottom of the stage preview.

 

[Nanobuds]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/30rhzd/project_m_36_art_sunday/

 

[Nefnoj]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/30rhzd/project_m_36_art_sunday/

Thanks. I sort of love you forever.

So Fusion Zero Suit has a bigger belly button now?
So the Thwomps don't actually do damage, do they?
You clever devils, making hazards. I really hope the alternate stage loader includes a competitive version for the tourny players out there. It's too bad that you couldn't bring back the bumper to the HD Peach's Castle.
So now every stage (except the training stages) from Smash 64 are back now?

I can die happily.

 

[Nanobuds]

The thromps do have hitboxes. We figured out a secret to adding stage hazards. But it's still very limited.

 

[Nefnoj]

The thromps do have hitboxes. We figured out a secret to adding stage hazards. But it's still very limited.

I think I am dead or something.
This is beauty.

I think

I just

help

 

[Rᴏb]

I really appreciate that you guys were able to get the ASL code working, I really like playing on the original 64 stages!

 

[ArtfulHobbes]

This is so beautiful... really. Peach's Castle from 64 looks so gorgeous, Bowser's Castle looks amazing, Saffron City lookin great.

Diddy Finally has something. Those other costumes looking nice.

Honestly I'm really looking forward to hearing this new announcer more than anything.

 

[Narpas_sword]

Please tell us you slipped PED Samus in Nano.


Please

 

[Nefnoj]

Looks like Bowser still has his seizure shimmy though.

Also, I'd like to point out, the creature in the cages at the background of Bowser's Castle will occasionally change.
I also really hope that occasionally, in Saffron, the door opens, and functions like "Isai's Greenhouse", or maybe has a little cosmetic Pokémon appearance, though I have no strong preferences because I'm still suffering from hype I watched that trailer four times already help

 

[Narpas_sword]

A 'like'?

Does a 'like' mean yes?
I think i can speak Nano.
nano, does 'Like' mean yes?

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[Nanobuds]

A 'like'?

Does a 'like' mean yes?
I think i can speak Nano.
nano, does 'Like' mean yes?

Uhh... no.. maybe... i dunno... 47

 

[Nefnoj]

Watering can in the background of Distant Planet! MAJOR graphical overhaul! Watering can CONFIRMED.

I NOTICE THESE THINGS.

Uhh... no.. maybe... i dunno... 47

If it was,

he confirmed a lot of stupid things for me.
A lot of very very stupid things.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I'm so glad that you found a way to add new stages without getting rid of old ones. That's the thing I've wanted most, aside from new characters.

 

[ArtfulHobbes]

Looks like Bowser still has his seizure shimmy though.

Damn. I really hope this gets changed eventually. I'd love to see a four-legged running Bowser.