PM Arts and Alts Thread

[Solbliminal]

I don't see why this Pokemon costume arguement is taking place at all. If neither of you (or any of you for that matter) know the rules, then do not argue about it. Unless there is visual evidence, there was no point in bringing it up. This is an alt costume thread. You all are free to suggest what you want unless P:M has set down the rules for costume choices. Charizard X and Armored Mewtwo are both reasonable costumes because there are no rules provided in visual evidence that states otherwise. Don't carry over rules from the Clone Engine discussion as if they are the guidelines. It was pretty obvious they are flexible about some things since we have Dracula's Castle and Skyloft.

Another thing. You shouldn't have to provide depth to the reason of your suggestions. A simple "Charizard X is still Charizard" would work. If the costume defies the hotboxes of the character, then obviously don't suggest it. That simple.

Now as for costumes I would like to see. A Scourge or Soap Shoes alt for Sonic, Awakening Roy and Masked Marth alts, Dry Bowser, OOT / SC2 Link, and SS Zelda / SS inspired Shiek (based off Impa)....Oh and a Pichu alt...for Sandbag

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

I think Mega Charizard X would make a fantastic Alt. Costume for Charizard, however, there are also those unfortunate little tidbits involving the mentioning of Pokemon X and Y in Brawl. But I dunno, considering the fact that Charizard X pretty much IS Charizard, then I suppose it would be just as harmful is the already announced armored Mewtwo? (Which shouldn't be harmful at all, correct?)

Reason why I choose X over Y is simply because well, it looks better, (opinionated), plus, it would probably be less straining on the modelers, considering that Charizard Y actually has a much larger wingspan (hitboxes, keep those in mind.), plus the fact that Charizard Y may look a bit dirty, (tiny hands and those weird little arm wing things).

I mean, the only main issue I see with Charizard X in terms of modeling is the shoulders and the flames coming from both sides of his maw, I'm fairly certain the wings wouldn't be TOO hard.

TL;DR Charizard X would be better than Y because of looks and better hitbox respect. (Looks completely opinionated.)

Am I the only one that thinks Charizard Y looks better? X to me looks pretty lame, like a little kids fanart or something

But I do agree X would be better for modeling into an alt costume, I wouldn't expect them to do Y since the model would be quite different


Also, looked at the Samus pictures...

ok so they knew Samus was female when they made this right? lol I mean don't get me wrong the suit is awesome, but my understanding is that this suit is more skin tight, and if that's true, her body structure makes no sense, look at those freakin lats, and wide shoulders, it doesn't match ZSS at all

 

[PseudoTypical]

Am I the only one that thinks Charizard Y looks better? X to me looks pretty lame, like a little kids fanart or something

But I do agree X would be better for modeling into an alt costume, I wouldn't expect them to do Y since the model would be quite different


Also, looked at the Samus pictures...

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ok so they knew Samus was female when they made this right? lol I mean don't get me wrong the suit is awesome, but my understanding is that this suit is more skin tight, and if that's true, her body structure makes no sense, look at those freakin lats, and wide shoulders, it doesn't match ZSS at all

At first I had the same opinion, but the design grew on me. Each viewpoint is valid, of course, but X at least does Charizard credit by maintaining that "big" look, while adding things like the streams of flame coming from his mouth. Perhaps it's not innovative, but I'm okay with that.

While I think the shoulders might be excusable since they could be enhanced like those on the other suits, I agree that her frame is really werid. No complaints from me on the suit either, though. Here's another cool pic.

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[Sanity's_Theif]

At first I had the same opinion, but the design grew on me. Each viewpoint is valid, of course, but X at least does Charizard credit by maintaining that "big" look, while adding things like the streams of flame coming from his mouth. Perhaps it's not innovative, but I'm okay with that.

While I think the shoulders might be excusable since they could be enhanced like those on the other suits, I agree that her frame is really werid. No complaints from me on the suit either, though. Here's another cool pic.

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I don't even think you can excuse the shoulders as part of the suit, look how far her biceps and elbows are from her body, I have a lean muscular frame and my arms don't jut out even close to that far from my body, those are some serious lats and broad shoulders lol by far the strangest body frame I've even seen for Samus, or any woman really

Costume is still awesome, just never noticed her frame before and thought it was hilarious

 

[MVP]

i personally am not a huge fan of the fusion suit... she looks more badass in the prime series (which is what her brawl model is from)

 

[Xenozoa425]

Her Brawl model is based on the Super Metroid Model, which the Prime Trilogy, 64, and Melee models are also based off of.

 

[Chzrm3]

Am I the only one that thinks Charizard Y looks better? X to me looks pretty lame, like a little kids fanart or something

If I'm remembering right, Y is the one where her wings are tattered? If so, that's the one I like, too.

 

[red9rd]

Some characters have so MANY GREAT possible costumes.

 

[Fortress]

Am I the only one that thinks Charizard Y looks better? X to me looks pretty lame, like a little kids fanart or something

Nope, not at all. Charizard X, in my opinion, is too 'busy' and 'different'. He looks way too 'crazy'. In my own opinion, I think Charizard X is just stupid.

But, I get told I'm wrong every time I say that, so, whatever.

 

[FireBall Stars]

Samus's Brawl model was made based on the design of super metroid/zero mission. Metroid Prime 1 and Melee have the models based on super metroid as well, Prime 2 and 3 models have different designs and proportions from prime 1 and are basically a new varia suit design.

 

[Fortress]

Samus's Brawl model was made based on the design of super metroid/zero mission. Metroid Prime 1 and Melee have the models based on super metroid as well, Prime 2 and 3 models have different designs and proportions from prime 1 and are basically a new varia suit design.

I noticed that, actually. That Samus' round shoulders looked a lot like Super's rendition of the Power Suit. Though, I still prefer Varia.

 

[FireBall Stars]

Btw something about the fusion suit. It does give the illusion that it's more skintight but in reality it's just her suit without the metal plates, so it's proportions aren't much different from the normal power suit, thus the wide shoulders.

Still I don't think they mind much Samus' proportions when designing the suits, they have the mysterious magic like chozo technology johns.

 

[TheLippyLapras]

Has anyone mentioned this costume for Ganondorf?

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OR maybe even this?

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[Fortress]

Pajamadorf would fit fine in the sense that he beats the everloving **** out of Link in Wind Waker with his fists, but I bet you all my rupees that people would whine about the second one, and that Ganondorf should use magic and projectiles. Besides, Wind Waker Ganondorf is pretty fat, to be honest. We tried implementing him at the house, and he was just weird-looking.

But, I feel like if anything is used for him, that it'd probably be Ocarina Ganondorf, just because their sizes are so close (Brawl and his).

 

[TheLippyLapras]

Pajamadorf would fit fine in the sense that he beats the everloving **** out of Link in Wind Waker with his fists, but I bet you all my rupees that people would whine about the second one, and that Ganondorf should use magic and projectiles. Besides, Wind Waker Ganondorf is pretty fat, to be honest. We tried implementing him at the house, and he was just weird-looking.

But, I feel like if anything is used for him, that it'd probably be Ocarina Ganondorf, just because their sizes are so close (Brawl and his).

Perhaps, I just think that WW Ganon would feel more Unique than OoT Ganondorf, seeing what the Team is capable off, I'm fairly positive that they could pull it off, I dunno. I just feel that OoT Ganon is just a tad too similar to the normal costume to feel truly alternate to me.

 

[Cereal Bawks]

TWW Ganondorf looks pretty awesome, but I don't think he could fit as an alt. His proportions are too different, as are his clothes.

 

[Fortress]

Perhaps, I just think that WW Ganon would feel more Unique than OoT Ganondorf, seeing what the Team is capable off, I'm fairly positive that they could pull it off, I dunno. I just feel that OoT Ganon is just a tad too similar to the normal costume to feel truly alternate to me.

Fair enough, but I agree with Cereal in that WW 'Dorf is just too different. I think Ocarina Ganondorf is different enough. Different hairstyles, different armor, and, there's a ****ing Discodorf out there; Meleedorf with white armor and gold trim.

Take it in.

 

[red9rd]

Has anyone mentioned this costume for Ganondorf?

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OR maybe even this?

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I already suggested Ganondorfs Agahnim disguise and/or Ganondorf wearing Phantom Ganon costume.

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http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Agahnim_(A_Link_to_the_Past)

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http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Phantom_Ganon

 

[uCooL]

Has anyone mentioned this costume for Ganondorf?

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this would be better as a DDD alt.

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

Btw something about the fusion suit. It does give the illusion that it's more skintight but in reality it's just her suit without the metal plates, so it's proportions aren't much different from the normal power suit, thus the wide shoulders.

Still I don't think they mind much Samus' proportions when designing the suits, they have the mysterious magic like chozo technology johns.

More like her shoulders get dislocated and stretched from her body every time she gets in a suit lol, although the Prime and other M power suits seemed more realistic

Has anyone mentioned this costume for Ganondorf?

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OR maybe even this?

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Fat Ganondorf? No thanks

Mulletdorf has my vote

TWW Ganondorf looks pretty awesome, but I don't think he could fit as an alt. His proportions are too different, as are his clothes.

All the proportions of people in WW were off, I personally found it silly/disturbing, can't very much connect with the game with hey arnold/powerpuff girl rejects running all over the place

 

[Cereal Bawks]

I liked the proportions ._.

Ganondorf looked like a BAMF in TWW.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

I say Ganon should just have his Wind Waker COSTUME. Those robes would look badass on him, I don't need TW Ganon fat to like the clothes. Isn't costumes the point of this thread, not proportion changes?

 

[trojanpooh]

Pajamadorf

New plan: What if Ganondorf's alt costume was Ganondorf in his pajamas? Like, straight up cosplaying Ness in that one bit from Earthbound style pajamas? Oooh, and a night cap with a cotton poof at the tip.

 

[Wiisnake]

New plan: What if Ganondorf's alt costume was Ganondorf in his pajamas? Like, straight up cosplaying Ness in that one bit from Earthbound style pajamas? Oooh, and a night cap with a cotton poof at the tip.

THere be only room for one Pajama Wearin 90s Kid in these parts!

 

[trojanpooh]

THere be only room for one Pajama Wearin 90s Kid in these parts!

One of them can be naked a la the Japanese release of Mother 2. I think a community poll is in order (pardon the pun).

 

[Wiisnake]

One of them can be naked a la the Japanese release of Mother 2. I think a community poll is in order (pardon the pun).

But then Ness would freeze to death against ICs!

 

[red9rd]

Or Robot Ness

 

[splat]

But then Ness would freeze to death against ICs!

There's a PK Freeze joke in here somewhere.

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

I liked the proportions ._.

For Samus? They're hilariously unrealistic

Ganondorf looked like a BAMF in TWW.

He looked like a fat sad old man in pajamas, he was the most underwhelming Ganondorf appearance ever

 

[Xebenkeck]

If you look at all the sprites in Earthbound there are only 4 costumes Ness "wears" other then his standard sprtie which are: him in his Pj's, robot ness, angel ness, or the super chilly naked ness.

I think the choice is quite obvious, Pj's Ness.

 

[Vigilante]

Nah, it will be naked Ness with varous skin tones for team colours.

Red team: Hot-sauce drinking Ness..
Blue team: Freezing to death Ness.
Green team: Ate something that spent too much time in his inventory Ness.

Jokes aside though, keep the suggestions going guys.

 

[Mithost]

Here is my long list of requests. Spoiler tagged for convenience

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[Toxicroaker]

Here is my long list of requests. Spoiler tagged for convenience

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Best list EVA!

 

[Knight Dude]

I'd imagine that Fox and Falco would get Melee inspired looks. I could see Wolf getting something similar to his 64 costume, with a normal eye-patch. But would Funky Kong be a good fit for Donkey? Or would an arcade inspired costume work better?

 

[red9rd]

I'd imagine that Fox and Falco would get Melee inspired looks. I could see Wolf getting something similar to his 64 costume, with a normal eye-patch. But would Funky Kong be a good fit for Donkey? Or would an arcade inspired costume work better?

DK .Jr

 

[trojanpooh]

My thoughts:
Dry Bowser
Pajama Ness (Robot Ness doesn't have the same body type)
Sunset DK & Diddy (unless that somehow warrants a character not repped in Brawl in the PMBR's eyes)
All sorts of fun hats for Pikachu and Jigglypuff
Fusion Suit Samus/Fusion's end of game outfit ZSS
Ganondorf in Ness's Pajama's because

 

[Fortress]

Ganondorf in Ness's Pajama's because

"Did somebody say, 'Pajamadorf'? Why don't you come meet me at my castle."

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[red9rd]

"Did somebody say, 'Pajamadorf'? Why don't you come meet me at my castle."

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Let me show you my Gerudo dragon (move in Melee)

 

[Fortress]

Let me show you my Gerudo dragon (move in Melee)

Only if you promise not to use Warlock Fist.

Because, you know, that move is slow.

 

[Cereal Bawks]

For Samus? They're hilariously unrealistic

What? No. I was responding to the last part of your post when you said TWW's proportions were off.