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PM Arts and Alts Thread
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Generically Epic
Smash Ace
Yes. All the yes! Is anyone seriously against this? Because it's awesome.
"Since these costumes are either the same character or wearing a costume inspired by another, the criteria we use for deciding on Clone Engine characters (that is, already appearing in the game in some way) does not necessarily apply to Alternate Costumes. This all being said, you shouldn't expect things like Daisy over Peach, or Shadow over Sonic as these would break our rules and are just not possible to do at the level of quality and professionalism we strive to maintain."
If it meets the criteria the PMBR strives for, I'm all for it.
arcticfox8
Smash Champion
I am. I feel like Marth has enough alt costume potential as it is now that he doesn't need to be Lucina.
Ginge
Smash Ace
They could have a taunt mask like Squirtle's glasses. And not use up an alt costume slot for it.
ElGoombaswag
Hououin Kyoma
i like it
Marthmario
Smash Lord
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This
Generically Epic
Smash Ace
FUND IT!
Toxicroaker
Smash Lord
I am 100% against this
Generically Epic
Smash Ace
Why?
Toxicroaker
Smash Lord
I don't know. It may be my extreme hate for Lucina talking, but I just hate the thought of it.
Generically Epic
Smash Ace
So it comes down to personal hatred for a character, not a logical reason. Alright.
But your personal love for the costume (or the character) is a valid reason?
Come on now. =P
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QQQQQQQ7777777
Smash Champion
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Nonono! You don't seem to understand GREG! When I say I like something, that makes it a valid reason as to why that something should be forced on to everybody, but when SOMEONE ELSE likes something that I don't, that makes them a lesser human being. Gosh, YOUR SO STUPID GREG! I HATE YOU!
arcticfox8
Smash Champion
Girls girls both of your alt costumes are pretty.
Ginge
Smash Ace
Whether or not you dislike Lucina, it's a cool costume. It's just a matter of whether it's different enough from his main outfit. But I'd prefer that to Classic Marth with his manskirt.
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Game&Watcher
Smash Ace
The problem with giving Marth a mask is that he never had one in the first place, that was Lucina under the guise of Marth, not the actual Marth. That being said, it would be hilarious if he did get the mask, as that would be somewhat of a reference to how we all thought he was literally a girl.
Generically Epic
Smash Ace
why can't we have boooth?Whether or not you dislike Lucina, it's a cool costume. It's just a matter of whether it's different enough from his main outfit. But I'd prefer that to Classic Marth with his manskirt.
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ElGoombaswag
Hououin Kyoma
that is also my question too
Ginge
Smash Ace
If PMBR wants to dedicate time to making a model based on that outfit, go for it. Add insult to injury when people lose to Marth in a dress.
Shin F.
Smash Master
They said they aren't doing Mega Pokemon.
Game&Watcher
Smash Ace
By PMBR standards, yes. But if you really want it...
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LeeYawshee
Smash Ace
The mask is technically Lucina's and is in no way related to Marth aside from the name that Marth took up. Along with that the mask is seen in 1% of the game. People might like it but Marth can do so much better in terms of costume than just dressing up like someone dressing up like him.
"Since these costumes are either the same character or wearing a costume inspired by another, the criteria we use for deciding on Clone Engine characters (that is, already appearing in the game in some way) does not necessarily apply to Alternate Costumes. This all being said, you shouldn't expect things like Daisy over Peach, or Shadow over Sonic as these would break our rules and are just not possible to do at the level of quality and professionalism we strive to maintain."
If it meets the criteria the PMBR strives for, I'm all for it.
Long story short: Why would Marth be cosplaying someone who's cosplaying him?
Radiant Dawn actually came out before those games, along with that if you played FE, their dressing styles are pretty much the same.
Ginge
Smash Ace
That outfit was his Awakening outfit, not his Radiant Dawn or Path of Radiance outfit.
Edit: I realized the problem came about because I was referring to the "liking the redesign of Ike" part of the post, and you the "vanguard Ike" part.
Edit: I realized the problem came about because I was referring to the "liking the redesign of Ike" part of the post, and you the "vanguard Ike" part.
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LeeYawshee
Smash Ace
Oops, my apologies.
HayabusaTaichou
Smash Apprentice
Isn't that why a Squirtle like glasses taunt would be cool? It doesn't work as part of an "official" costume but it still looks cool and is loosely related so add it in as a secret cause why the hell not.
Game&Watcher
Smash Ace
Squirtle represents an entire species, like how Yoshi represents his. However, Marth is the only Marth (excluding Lucina, because she only used his name for less than half of Awakening, and tactitions/avatar units, which you can really name them anything) in the Fire Emblem universe.
HayabusaTaichou
Smash Apprentice
Why does this matter?
Generically Epic
Smash Ace
I support an Awakening outfit and a lucinia mask would make it more different from the original. Lucina goes by Marth.
But for a taunt, how does putting on a mask hurt anything? :I
But for a taunt, how does putting on a mask hurt anything? :I
Generically Epic
Smash Ace
And more costumes is better ultimately no matter what it may be because that means we can just replace it.
ALL THE SONIC RECOLORS, PLEASE!
ALL THE SONIC RECOLORS, PLEASE!
LeeYawshee
Smash Ace
It doesn't hurt anything but my point is that Marth and Lucina are rarely related aside from name and clothes. In fact Lucina even states that she just took the name and never meant to impersonate Marth. I wouldn't doubt that somewhere in the Fire Emblem universe, a commoner shares the same name as Marth, maybe multiple just because of his name meaning so much. Lucina isn't Marth, and Marth isn't Lucina. That's why I don't believe that it would be a good alternative costume. Marth is Prince Marth, King Marth, Lodestar Marth. But he's not Lucina.
HOWEVER. If he gets the mask, it'll be something I deal with. Not because I don't like it but because they put a bunch of hard work to put it in.
Cubelarooso
Smash Lord
Gray Donkey Kong with pink skin.
Hair could be horn-shaped, to reference the fact that it's actually Rambi.
Also normal gorilla colors (black fur, grey skin).
And DK64 multiplayer alternate colors.
Hair could be horn-shaped, to reference the fact that it's actually Rambi.
Also normal gorilla colors (black fur, grey skin).
And DK64 multiplayer alternate colors.
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Game&Watcher
Smash Ace
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Spooky Skook
Smash Cadet
Speaking of loderstar marth, where is the love for roy's look from awakening?
I don't know if it's already been posted or not but I'm a fan of his armor in the awakening dlc.
I don't know if it's already been posted or not but I'm a fan of his armor in the awakening dlc.
HayabusaTaichou
Smash Apprentice
Stepping back into the real world for a second, the people making the game clearly designed Lucina to look like Marth and generally it was made a pretty big deal by those marketing the game and fans with the whole oooh, it's him, it's not him. You can't just say that in the story it wasn't intentional so it isn't intentional at all, it doesn't count and doesn't fit when clearly it is and it does. Seriously, there's nothing wrong with giving Marth the option to add something that's meant to look cool with his design. Anyway you're putting a little too much effort into ****ting on an idea that would essentially be an Easter Egg that you would never have to use.
Eisen
Smash Ace
So, this needs to happen for Ganondorf:
But probably without the neck/wrist hairs.
But probably without the neck/wrist hairs.
Game&Watcher
Smash Ace
No clue, they just won't.
Kuroda
Smash Rookie
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mayve it's too hard for them to code into the game
Eisen
Smash Ace
You wouldn't really be "coding" it though. Honestly, texture and model swaps are some of the easiest mods to make besides music/text out there, in my opinion. They're a lot more literal than you may think.
Also, one reason I can speculate as to why they won't do Mega Pokemon is because some of them have some flat-out different vertices and thus potentially janky-looking hurtboxes/hitboxes that don't make a whole lot of sense. Other than that, I can only speculate there would be more diplomatic reasons (like trying not to piss off Nintendo).
Also, one reason I can speculate as to why they won't do Mega Pokemon is because some of them have some flat-out different vertices and thus potentially janky-looking hurtboxes/hitboxes that don't make a whole lot of sense. Other than that, I can only speculate there would be more diplomatic reasons (like trying not to piss off Nintendo).
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