Please implement B-revesaled fireballs into your game

[Pierce7d]

This gets you out of 90% of air traps for free, and is amazing because it can be used multiple times in moderate succession, compliments cape stall AND FLUDD, and is very difficult to cover the option. This reduces (not eliminates) a huge weakness of Mario, being juggled. Mario's mobility isn't bad, but he's definitely pretty floaty, and he SUCKS at hitting targets below him so using this more to get out of juggles is essential.

After B-reversing a fireball, you can then continue in your new momentum reversed direction, and throw a fireball behind you to help fight a chase. Then you can FLUDD in the direction of your opponent, which combats even Tornado. It also lets you set up to do a protective Bair, whereas Cape can sometimes be obvious.

 

[HeroMystic]

inb4Famous/Vato

With everyone talking about this though I'll practice it.

 

[Inferno3044]

I'll get to this. I've been slacking on working on B-reversals and I know that you've told me. Actually I haven't done much stuff in training mode because I'm busy as hell and most of my days when I don't do something you're here XD.

 

[Big-Omar]

I have been implementing B-reversaled fire balls in my game. It works wonders. More people should definitely use this.

 

[Bartolon]

Yeah.. it's really good and can lead in some nice things.
I still think more mario's need to get cape tricks in their game it works wonders.
I've seen famous use it often reverse cape glide to usmash as example

 

[vato_break]

i while back i did some testing was kinda hoping fludd+fireball b reversal would add a huge bounce since fludd changes your momentum dramaticly when mario is in the air but, it didn't ... never the less


mixups!(i have said this time and time agian guys ;])

 

[Kanzaki]

I do this a lot in doubles, mainly cause my doubles partner is a Lucas, and I can heal him up mid match xD

 

[TechnoDreamer]

Do you just mean changing directions in air using neutral B? Or is this something else? <---- Noob here

 

[Veggi]

I think a lot of Marios do this, still it's good for people who don't I guess.

 

[Matador]

Is this what the Snake players do with grenades in the air when they're falling one way, but pull out a nade and shift their momentum in the opposite direction as they do it?

If so, I don't know how to do this and have been trying to learn for awhile now.

 

[Zatchiel]

I use B reversal all the time, but i spam it most with Mario's and Luigi's Fireballs.
For both provide an exellent wall on approaching opponents.
Mario's easily combo into a B air on low %
and Luigi's Sets the opponent up for a FJP if timing is proper.

 

[HeroMystic]

It's pretty easy to do, but it's annoying to do so on the fly consistently.

Whenever Matt gets his *** back online we'll make a video.

Also, I'm not sure if people are actually understanding this. I've never seen this done in a video.

 

[Matador]

It's pretty easy to do, but it's annoying to do so on the fly consistently.

Whenever Matt gets his *** back online we'll make a video.

Is it the grenade thing I'm describing?

 

[HeroMystic]

It sounds like it, yes.

Try this:

-Go to training mode
-Perform regular standing fireballs. Keep and eye on the 'Start-up' animation.
-Do B-reversal Fireballs while standing. If the Start-up animation is in front of Mario instead of behind, you're doing it correctly.
-Take it to the next step and do B-Reversal fireballs while running. This is actually harder to do than in the air, but it's also more obvious.
-Once you got that down, jump backwards in the air, then fireball, and right as Mario starts up the fireball, do a B-reversal.

Here's when you actually perform the AT.

-Perform the previous step, but as you do the B-Reversal, slam your Control stick at opposite direction of where you B-reversal'd. You'll notice a dramatic shift in momentum as you're fireballing.

B-Reversal is actually the wrong name for this. It's more like a wavebounce.

 

[Matador]

Alright, that sounds like it. I'll practice this next time I get my hands on a Wii.
Thanks dude.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I've been wanting to put this into my game for a while but never got around to it.

It's just so **** flashy... =D

 

[Pierce7d]

Flashy? It's critical.

And just to reiterate, to execute this technique, you must hold one direction to gain forward momentum, then fireball, and THEN AFTER YOU FIREBALL IMMEDIATELY hit the opposite direction.

Yes, it is the same techniques that Snakes use for the same reason I'm suggesting Mario do it.

 

[HeroMystic]

That's just a regular B-reversal.

Is that all you're advocating? I believe alot of Marios actually do this.

 

[hippiedude92]

I think a lot of Marios do this, still it's good for people who don't I guess.

lol i got it from Veggi XD

been using this since 09 now, it's really good tool when getting juggled, alot of people don't expect it... don't always spam it though.. esp if you end up in a bad position.

I've been wanting to put this into my game for a while but never got around to it.

It's just so **** flashy... =D

it is flashy lols

kudos pierce

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Pierce, I wasn't saying it wasn't good. I said it's flashy because it's so sexy when you pull it off.

 

[Veggi]

Just throwing this out there, sometimes I scare Snake mains by charging a smash with DK to bait an airdodge and then they b reverse a nade after already using their cypher, then they fall off the edge and die. XD

I just wanted to say that for some reason.

 

[vato_break]

i like how when i mentioned this i was ignored ..like always
!!

 

[Flameleon]

-I was working a lot on this and i got pretty nice things with this...seriously dudz, try out the FIRA style x9-

 

[fromundaman]

Is this what the Snake players do with grenades in the air when they're falling one way, but pull out a nade and shift their momentum in the opposite direction as they do it?

If so, I don't know how to do this and have been trying to learn for awhile now.

It is exactly what you're describing.

Press neutral B, then you have a few frames (I don't know the exact number) to hit the opposite direction.

B-Reversal is actually the wrong name for this. It's more like a wavebounce.

A common misconception, but wavebouncing is something different. I believe wavebouncing is when you RAR a B-reversal, which makes you fly away from the direction you're facing while using a special.




Also, yeah, B-reversals are amazing. They are also good out of SHs both to bait approaches (run at them, B-reverse fireball, they shield while you land, try to punish your lag, but if properly spaced, they can't, then you punish them) or to lead into Dsmash (when they chase you on the ground, at the right distance, you can surprise them with a B-reversed fireball and it combos into Dsmash.). These, are of course, just mixups.

A few other tricks are run off the ledge and B-reverse a fireball, making the fireball bounce of the edge and go straight down, which can allow for gimps (hell, sometimes it combos into a footstool), or doing the same thing off of a platform, which can seriously mess with an opponent's spacing. If you time it right, you can even B-reverse a fireball under a platform while staying on it (only managed to pull this off once. The timing is really strict).

 

[HeroMystic]

It sounds like "momentum" is the wrong word being used.

 

[jmanxiv]

Mad sexy, I have to pratice it more before implementing it in a match

 

[Javon89]

I use B-Reversals to retreat while camping, I tend to overdo it.