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Social PK Love - Lucas Social Thread: “Inside the mailbox was absolutely nothing”

BlueberrySyrup

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BAHAHAHAHA, Lucas confirmed for DLC in the leak!

Not only that, All Star mode wasn't unlocked, that means not all characters were shown! The guy had incomplete information.

Lucas is back, and I firmly believe this. Even if he's not in the game when I first get it, mah boi will be back, and he might be differentiated as well.
 

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BAHAHAHAHA, Lucas confirmed for DLC in the leak!

Not only that, All Star mode wasn't unlocked, that means not all characters were shown! The guy had incomplete information.

Lucas is back, and I firmly believe this. Even if he's not in the game when I first get it, mah boi will be back, and he might be differentiated as well.
Uh, Lucas isn't DLC. That was de-bunked as B.S. info the guy added onto the leak to troll. -_-
 

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C'mon guys, we can't buy into this leak without having any details. And all the little bits of info we've gotten since the videos lead to it being fake. We'll just have to wait and see what Nintendo does to announce other things such as characters, stages etc.
Until then, this might as well be a hoax created by somebody on this site for all we know.
 

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I just made myself a new avatar out of some pixels I had laying around for more Lucas support, but those leaks get more believable every day. Yesterday there were videos showing off Shulk and Bowser Jr., and those have been taken down by Nintendo of America claiming copyright.
Sadly, I don't think I'll believe Lucas still has a chance for much longer...

But remember, people: no crying until the end.
 

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OK guys, here's the deal. We've all seen the leak. Since I never mained Lucas, I'll use as much knowledge I can remember of my time playing as him. First things first, the leak.

Really? We're trusting some random person out there with Smash information? C'mon guys! We don't even know who's leaking this stuff! Until I know who's leaking this, I wouldn't believe a THING this leak is saying. Summed up, this means don't give up hope. Because honestly, even I think Lucas will make his return. And for all of you saying he was a clone...let's look at his moveset, shall we?

Special: PK Freeze. Why is this move unique? Well, yes. PK Freeze and PK Flash do have the same remote-control mechanic. But do I see Ness' special freezing people? Uh...no.
Side Special: PK Fire. Why is this move unique? Same name, COMPLETELY different property. Lucas' PK Fire does not score multiple hits. It's just a one-and-done event.
Up Special: PK Thunder. Why is this move unique? Again, same name, different usage. Lucas' PK Thunder goes through opponents, so you can get multiple hits. Lucas' PK Thunder also moves a bit slower.
Down Special: PSI Magnet. Why is this move unique? Well, there isn't anything to really distinguish Ness' and Lucas Down Specials...so...I've got nothing...but anyways...

Lucas is not getting cut. His differences in just his special moves (not counting his aerials, smashes, or other attacks), already lends him a moveset that belongs to him and him only. I therefore state that Lucas is not a clone, and just a reminder, don't give up hope because of the leak until we have confirmation on another character (design art will confirm or debunk the leak) or until we know who's giving this stuff out. Here's hoping Lucas makes his return!
and plus the dlc leak is fake and that wasent the whole roster says the leaker
 

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for those panicing calm down this is sakurai then roster leak and the stage leak can still be fake this only ups shulks and bowser jr's chances of being in but its on youtube when anyone can make a copywrite claim on a video
 

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We have videos, there is no way the leak is fake.

Anyways, I just hope we get a future veterans DLC pack or something.I was really liking this roster so far but the cuts are terrible, so many unique characters gone!.
 

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Despite that DLC leak being debunked, I still believe DLC will be possible. What I find strange is that the Devil Car from Mother 1 is present as a trophy and a Smash Run Enemy.
It could be hinting at a Ninten Alt for Ness, but just having them reference Mother 1 and ignore the 3rd game (at least for now) seems pretty strange.
 

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We have videos, there is no way the leak is fake.

Anyways, I just hope we get a future veterans DLC pack or something.I was really liking this roster so far but the cuts are terrible, so many unique characters gone!.
Videos can be faked with a good amount of time ya know...I don't see why people are giving up hope yet. Nintendo can still confirm another character and debunk this...
 

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The more I think about it, the more I realize that Lucas would be the easiest of the cut characters to save. All they would have to do is make him an ALT of Ness, especially if the Alph and Koopa Kids ALTs are real like the leak strongly implied. They could technically compile Ninten, Ness, and Lucas into one character, maybe even bring Paula and Kumatora into the mix if they felt bold enough.
 

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The more I think about it, the more I realize that Lucas would be the easiest of the cut characters to save. All they would have to do is make him an ALT of Ness, especially if the Alph and Koopa Kids ALTs are real like the leak strongly implied. They could technically compile Ninten, Ness, and Lucas into one character, maybe even bring Paula and Kumatora into the mix if they felt bold enough.
As much as i detest this idea, i'm not going to rage over it, if only cause i try to respect other's opinions.

But if Sakurai cut Lucas, and didn't replace him with anyone else from Mother(or just cuts him period), i would never forgive him, and neither would most Mother fans.
 

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I'm disappointed in the roster and were it not for some of the good choices made for newcomers I would hate it outright.
You shouldn't ever cut a veteran unless you have a very good reason to.
And after giving three characters (two of which were clones) to three series that already have easily enough reps, there should not have been any reason to cut Lucas or anyone else like ROB, and ICs.

The only thing Sakurai can do at this stage is
  1. delay the release to 2015 so we can get a proper roster
  2. use DLC
Personally I'd be fine with any of the two but I'm sure most people don't want it delayed so #2 is what I'm putting all my hopes on.
 

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I'm disappointed in the roster and were it not for some of the good choices made for newcomers I would hate it outright.
You shouldn't ever cut a veteran unless you have a very good reason to.
And after giving three characters (two of which were clones) to three series that already have easily enough reps, there should not have been any reason to cut Lucas or anyone else like ROB, and ICs.

The only thing Sakurai can do at this stage is
  1. delay the release to 2015 so we can get a proper roster
  2. use DLC
Personally I'd be fine with any of the two but I'm sure most people don't want it delayed so #2 is what I'm putting all my hopes on.
Uh...Lucas, Wolf, ROB, and IC haven't been confirmed cut yet. That DLC part was disproven, and in the leaks, All Star mode was locked, meaning that the roster wasn't fully complete yet(A.K.A. the guy didn't unlock everyone in the roster yet). Lucas and the others could still be in, so i wouldn't give up hope yet if i were you. :)
 

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As a Snake fan, I feel your pain of Lucas being cut.
 

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Uh...Lucas, Wolf, ROB, and IC haven't been confirmed cut yet. That DLC part was disproven, and in the leaks, All Star mode was locked, meaning that the roster wasn't fully complete yet(A.K.A. the guy didn't unlock everyone in the roster yet). Lucas and the others could still be in, so i wouldn't give up hope yet if i were you. :)
Going to be harsh, but knowing Sakurai all of them will be cut, especially as the roster nears its end.
I'm praying so hard right now that these guys will return somehow to the game because honestly if they were cut then that would ruin the game for me, coupled with some other things that are likely to happen.
 

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Pretty sure we will see Smash DLC, we should start a Lucas for DLC movement.
 

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Gosh...you guys are still just accepting the leak, huh? Nobody has confirmed or debunked this thing yet guys, there's still a chance! Isn't this supposed to be the Lucas support thread? Isn't this where all the Lucas fans come to show their pride for their character? And you guys are just (somewhat) giving up because of a leak? Pictures can be photoshopped and videos can be faked with enough time, guys. C'mon why are we all just giving in? Heck, I don't even main Lucas and I'm still all for him making his return. Until we have confirmation about whether or not this leak is real, Lucas' chances are high as ever!
 

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I'm about 90% on the leak being real but I am still think Lucas might have a chance and I will believe that until he gets offically kicked. Even if he does there is a chance in the future with DLC. Considering Mario Kart 8 just got some announced it is not impossible. Just hoping every Veteran that gets cut can come back with DLC too.

I will fight for Lucas till the very end!

The feels...
That last panel has been my background for over a month now. :(
 

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This just in guys.
Sakurai had always liked to keep a lot of traditions in smash, and one of them is having 4 unnanounced newcomers in smash after release. Let me explain
64 : Jigglypuff, Ness, Captain falcon and Luigi
Melee : Originally, Mr. G&W, marth, mewtwo and King DDD were going to be the hidden 4, but they decided to implement the develoment time they had for DDD on 6 clones.
Brawl : Toon link, wolf, lucario and wolf.

Ok so now that part of the roster has been leaked and the all-star mode is locked means there are unlocked characters left, neozero confirmed from his source that there's still remaining characters that we might not expect. And Vaanrose and other part of the leaker confirmed that Motherfu*****leaker had lied about DLC and Mach rider and Co being unlockable. That means the the roster has 5 spots open.
So these characters could be part of the remaining 4 secrect unlocks : shulk, dark pit, dog hunt
Those are the most possible ones to take part of the secret 4.
That could say that 2 or 3 of the five unlocked characters are newcomers and the rest veterans.
If IC are really cut that means there's more chance for lucas, mewtwo and wolf to get in. Or if mewtwo isn't added either.
And also, devil car from mother 1 and magicant appear too so why include mother 1 related stuff and left mother 3 out?
Also if dark pit isn't an alt costume neither is Dr. Mario then lucas won't be. He already has a different moveset already implanted.
The hope for lucas doesn't die, stay strong guys.
 

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Guys, NEVER give up on this. We don't even know if Lucas is cut or not yet. Why is everyone acting like he is? Lucas deserves to be in Smash more than a lot of characters do. Even if things look bad, remember that All Star mode is locked, which means that there are still more characters left. Here's hoping that Lucas is one of them. :lucas:
 

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You guys are still believing this leak? Guys, it's not even confirmed yet...

Geez guys, c'mon.
 

General-Guy

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You guys are still believing this leak? Guys, it's not even confirmed yet...

Geez guys, c'mon.
Dude the leak is real. Sorry to burst your bubble. The video evidence should be enough, but then the leaker even posted a ton of pictures of smash bros 3ds that have lined up with the new POTDs. When the videos were taken down it even said that they were taken down by Nintendo of America. There still could be more characters left, and hopefully Lucas is one of them, but the leak is still real.
 

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Yeah, guys, i know it looks bleak, but the only thing we can do is hope. If Lucas gets cut, that only proves more that Nintendo doesn't care about Mother, and us as the fans will outcry like we always do. I'm sure the last thing they want is that, and i'm sure Lucas is getting in.
 

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Yeah, guys, i know it looks bleak, but the only thing we can do is hope. If Lucas gets cut, that only proves more that Nintendo doesn't care about Mother, and us as the fans will outcry like we always do. I'm sure the last thing they want is that, and i'm sure Lucas is getting in.
Agreed. Lucas is only deconfirmed if Sakurai officially says it himself.
 

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Proof against the leak:

Yesterday's PoTD does not confirm the leak. Here's why: http://www.smashbros.com/us/movielist/ Go to the E3 trailer for Smash 3DS. Then stop at around 0:53-0:54. Wait a minute...isn't that...the SPECTATOR SCREEN?!?! The picture of the Spectator Screen from the leaker could just have been a small tweak to those shown in this trailer.

And I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff out there that we've already seen before this leak, and that the leaker could have just tweaked the pictures from previous videos of Smash 4. I'm still going to look for even more evidence against this stupid leak, buying into something without any PROVEN details or any evidence from other sources is just bogus.
 

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Gosh...you guys are still just accepting the leak, huh? Nobody has confirmed or debunked this thing yet guys, there's still a chance! Isn't this supposed to be the Lucas support thread? Isn't this where all the Lucas fans come to show their pride for their character? And you guys are just (somewhat) giving up because of a leak? Pictures can be photoshopped and videos can be faked with enough time, guys. C'mon why are we all just giving in? Heck, I don't even main Lucas and I'm still all for him making his return. Until we have confirmation about whether or not this leak is real, Lucas' chances are high as ever!
This is EXACTLY the attitude I wish I could still have. But...
You can't claim copyright infringement on something you haven't made, right?
 
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This is EXACTLY the attitude I wish I could still have. But...
You can't claim copyright infringement on something you haven't made, right?
Actually you can as it is allegedly Smash 4 game-play, that is the way the video was presented. Nintendo is practically obligated to claim copyright infringement.

Regardless, I still have faith in Lucas. He is not going anywhere!
 

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This is EXACTLY the attitude I wish I could still have. But...
You can't claim copyright infringement on something you haven't made, right?
I know that it's hard to have faith in this kind of stuff. I'm a Mother fan myself, so i know what it's like. But, for all we know, this leak could be real. You just have to believe, i mean, i don't think Sakurai would cut Lucas. It's bad enough that the series already gets the crap and s*** that it already does, i doubt Sakurai would take away what little the fans have left and cut one of the Mother Reps. without replacing them, or just cut them period. I think Lucas will be back, along with Wolf and Ice Climbers. Besides, its better to have hope, even if you do get crushed in the end, Lucas is a unique character and isn't a clone, so he has a decent chance of coming back. Besides, NOA is sick and tired of the Mother fans outcrying against how unfair they treat the franchise, i doubt Sakurai would do something to make that outcry even louder. The last thing NOA wants is more Mother fans b****ing.
 

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I'm just trying to convince myself that Sakurai can make the right choice for this.
I really don't see any good reason for Lucas to be cut.
#:lucas:SSB4
 

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This is EXACTLY the attitude I wish I could still have. But...
You can't claim copyright infringement on something you haven't made, right?
acully with youtube it's possible someone could pose as nintendo and claim that then a domino effect happens someone gets strikes other people take their vids down
 
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