FlaminBuddha
Smash Rookie
iam new to smashboards and i saw a video of esam using up B then immediatly nairing after it. can anyone teach me how to do that. thank you.
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Pika Q&A/FAQ Thread: Ask a Quick Question, Get a Quick Answer!
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Angiance
Smash Lord
This tech is called QAC (Quick Attack Cancel); QA ground cancels into: air Jump, and any special
FlaminBuddha
Smash Rookie
can you explain this in detail please and how do i cancel it onto a nair
Angiance
Smash Lord
When Pikachu preforms Quick Attack into the ground, it cancels; out of this cancel, Pikachu can jump (only his 2nd jump) into any aerial, or use any special
FlaminBuddha
Smash Rookie
thank you
Angiance
Smash Lord
You're welcome!
TxB | Ramsaur
Smash Ace
But doesn't thunder get beat by his Dair stall? The reason I'm asking this is because one of the guys in my area picked up a pretty gay Lucario that I just can't get the hang of, so I switch to MK or Marth when I play him. I just have so much trouble countering when he spams Dair against my Pikachu. Yeah I angle my shield up (that's kind of what we do here in LA, we just hold our shield up most of the time) and when he gets close I grab. But since he's so DANG floaty I can never follow up after a throw. And since Pikachu's shield is sooooooooooo freaking small, my shield just get's eaten up and I get poked when I try to shield grab Dair.
You're doing just fine then
Funny fact, I just uploaded some Pika-Lucario on my channel.
I'm not very familiar with this matchup so you may not find what you're looking for into it.
All I can say is so not try to shield grab his Dair. Try to not stay just below him and punish it with Uair.
Just like Peach don't try to combo Lucario really hard. Just hit him and reset. Also Pikachus Dair "cancel" his neutral B no matter how big it is.
I think this matchup is a pain in the ass for Pika.
Angiance
Smash Lord
Thunder's edge-guarding viability drops considerably at high level play. Pikachu's shield is small, but his OoS play is powerful; hitting Pikachu's shield is dangerous to the enemy. Lucario's D-Air on shield = SH/FH U-Air OoS. From Pikachu's grab: F-Throw or B-Throw; Pikachu D-Throw = Lucario D-Air to Pika.
TxB | Ramsaur
Smash Ace
Yeah, that usually evens it up but have you seen Nairo vs Trela? Jeez, that match made the MU look even! I dunno, I'll take yall's advice, play him tonight and see how it goes. I mean, I always beat him lol, but it always goes down to last stock. I'm the best one in our crew but his new Lucario is just soooo gaaaay! I let stupid things happen like; he just rolls back, charges aura, spams C stick, if he feels pressured he'll roll around and spam small aura balls, and his idea of approach is Full hop Fair>DairDairDairDair. He fights like a total noob an that's what catches me off guard. I don't practice how to fight against noobs.You're doing just fine then
Pikant
Smash Rookie
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Hello! I'm new to smashboards and competitive SSBB, and i was wondering which Pika techniques you guys reccomend learning/focusing on first.
I am already able to QAC and edgeguard pretty decently, but I feel like I still have much to learn in terms of new techniques/playstyles.
I am already able to QAC and edgeguard pretty decently, but I feel like I still have much to learn in terms of new techniques/playstyles.
Player -0
Smash Hero
Omg dat Pikachu picture @.@
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Probably learn B-Reversing, on your thunder.
But focus on your movement and being able to get in and out other than that I suck myself so....
Pikant
Smash Rookie
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Pikachu's cuteness OP ^_^
Could you explain what you mean by B-reversing?
Angiance
Smash Lord
@Ramsaur: F-Air > D-Air = one of Lucario's main strings | @Pikant: You can start with whatever you wish, it doesn't matter; B-Reverse = Flick the analog in the opposite direction Pikachu is facing, pressing B at the same time as the flick; Pikachu will instantly turn around and use a special.
Don't try to punish his rolls (idk which one is super fast froll or broll) it's hard to do it consistently unless you're very on point. If he throws small aura balls when you're close just dair him and if you're not still dair and retreat.
If he spam fsmash just jump and press B or fair him, but don't try to combo out of falling fair on Lucario ( maybe unless it's low % but still).
This is all I can say.
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[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
If you are getting hit by dair you are thundering wrong. Any time you are edgeguarding with thunder (or stalling for time) you should be B-reversing it off-stage. The only times i ever go out there to thunder is if I read an airdodge or I **** up.
Angiance
Smash Lord
Pikachus rely on Thunder for edge-guarding too much.
[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
Because we don't have enough space control when you hit anybody in the upper-away corner of the stage...there is no point in just sitting there until they get close.
Angiance
Smash Lord
When the opponent is close to the stage, it's what chus'll go for still...
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
If so, what should we be going for?
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
I've had trouble with the olimar matchup. Does pikachu have any guaranteed followups on olimar out of D-throw?
My crewmate plays olimar, and kinda exaggerates the match up saying its hopeless. I haven't beaten him in a while. Maybe integrating the D-throw -> Nair/ D-throw F-smash mindgame might help.
My crewmate plays olimar, and kinda exaggerates the match up saying its hopeless. I haven't beaten him in a while. Maybe integrating the D-throw -> Nair/ D-throw F-smash mindgame might help.
MXXD123
Smash Journeyman
So I know IC's have ridiculous setups out of their nair on Battlefield, so I was wondering if Pikachu has any similar setups with nair or dair to maybe a qac or jab reset? Has anyone looked into that yet?
Angiance
Smash Lord
Edge-guarding is about speed and control; A-Jolt controls a Diagnol area, and gives Pikachu plenty of reaction time; the upper tip of U-Air controls the vertical area, making opponents react, and giving Pikachu plenty of reaction time; N-Air is, of course, what Pika is aiming to land during edge-guards, and the air control obviously helps him land it. | D-Throw chaining depends on the opponent's reactions, I think D-Throw > N-Air has the highest hit ratio, but D-Throw > F-Tilt (upwards) may work | Speaking of D-Throw > F-Tilt (upwards), F-Tilt in that scenario knocks them behind Pikachu, is this useful, anybody?
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
I didn't know about the F-tilt knocking them backwards. it works at a lower percent. I just checked, and if used near the edge it can put olimar off stage. yay edge guard. Kinda situational, but I didn't know that. I'm not the best edge guarder either so yes it was useful
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
Dair seems to work really well. I've been looking into it for a long time. Pikachu also has some tricks on platforms that are harder to punish then Dair.
SH Dair seems to work the best on battle field, but he has some tricks on smashville as well. I'll get a video of those
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[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
You can dair for an edgeslip to jab lock for sure. However, doing it on the outside of the BF platform your opponent can hold away and fall off the stage.
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
Either way if its in the middle you can lock, and if its at the edge you can edge guard.
Don't you get a positive either way?
Don't you get a positive either way?
Angiance
Smash Lord
Is it worth goin' for?
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
It should be worth it.
Anything that puts you in a situation that provides an advantage without deeply committing is good.
Anything that puts you in a situation that provides an advantage without deeply committing is good.
Angiance
Smash Lord
Yeah, true
[FBC] ESAM
Smash Legend
I mean also it has to be at low enough % where they actually slip off the edge as opposed to getting hit above the platform, which is really from like 0-15 or some crap like that...
HoldeN HoT FiyA
Smash Apprentice
How do we approach the Wario MU? I just find myself n-airing and u-airing OoS the entire match because it's the only thing I feel safe doing against his crazy air game.
BlueXenon
Smash Lord
When pikachu is chaingrabbing metaknight, what move should meteknight try to do to punish pikachu if he mistimes the grab?
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
I made a new thread about jabbing on smashville. Platform cancel onto the platform and jab if they are near the edge. I thought that only a single jab would work, but rapid jab till they are at the very edge of the platform. If they rolled to the edge of that platform or are very close we can single jab and slip off. it's very easy and it surprises people. Once they slip we've got locks and stuff lol
Plus I just tested it on kirby at around 60-70 percent...
TxB | Ramsaur
Smash Ace
JNig? Lol. We don't have any chaingrabs against him, and ESAM will have to tell us if there are any grab releases or not. My advice is to watch Gunner's sets against JNig. He used pikaslide>Fsmash many times to catch him off guard and land a hit. But you have more experience in the MU (that is even FYI) since you've played the best smasher in our state (minus the inactive lee Martin) more than I have. Pika also has a glitch where he can chaingrab Wario infinatly; it's on ESAM's channel, and I can't embed a link since I'm on mobile. But it sound like you did better against him at open world than at smashcon so that has to mean something right? That's all I have to offer :/ but you got to tell me more about how open world went!
Ever heard of SDI?
Angiance
Smash Lord
@Fiya: Against Wario, SH U-Air is (like usual), beautiful for fencing, or baiting, which is done by U-Airing at the peak of a SH, then FFing for the auto cancel, allowing Chu to be able to go into say, a U-Tilt to punish an opponent's reaction; SH D-Air is (like usual) one of Chu's best string starters; BPG away fron Wario can work; N-Air is (like usual) Pikachu's best KO option, but F-Tilt (upwards) at 150% is important to remember. I think tip spaced D-Tilt, out-right beats most his ground game. If Pikachu is applying pressure right, it'll make Wario afraid of being aerial, because Pika rules the air against many characters.
Hoenn
Smash Journeyman
Yes, but it catches people off guard, and even if they do sdi, you're refreshing your moves with rapid jab. Plus we still kill people by thunder, and that's not guaranteed.
Just because the lock is a possibility doesn't mean it's the only positive outcome. refreshing your moves will help lead to the kill. Plus you shouldn't get punished its free damage
Plus I was with people today,(who know about SDI) and they were getting caught by it.
TxB | Ramsaur
Smash Ace
*Holden. Also, all that stuff sounds great but you do not know JNig. He's the best player in our state and will 3 stock you in the blink of an eye. Try watching some of his matches against the best pika we have in our state (gunner) and see what you think
@hoenn True true my friend, even if it doesn't work we still DO get a refresh #winwinsituation
Angiance
Smash Lord
Well, there you go :3
Angiance
Smash Lord
Pikachu's need to unite! and have a TECHNO DANCE