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Pico for brawl.

Numa Dude

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More likely as an assist trophy? yes.
If Pico isn't a playable character in brawl then yes he would most likely be an assist trophy but because of his storyline importance (Which no one but me will admit he has) and his original four status he is a likely playable character.

The fact that he was Falcon's Rival makes him more important, and besides, "he is in the original 4".
No it doesn't. The fact that he is Falcons rival and his original four status made him important enough to be an AT but his complete unimportance to the story made him unworthy of being playable.

Dude, he doesn't deserve it. not even as an AT.
Why?

Yes, because you know, Sakurai whant's more villains, and since Black Shadow is uhm... the Villain and Falcon's Nemesis, yes i think Black Shadow has a bigger chance than Mr. Hitmen tortoise.
Black Shadow is not never has been and never will be Falcons nemesis. Deathborn is Falcons true nemesis and Pico was the first evil character in the series which makes them both villains who are more important than mr. batman wannabe.


Numa Dude, your not owning anybody, you haven't made anybody want to support Pico.
I could care less if you support him I just want you people to realize his high chances.

1) Goroh is more famous, and is an Assist Trophy
So? Goroh's completely irrevelent to the story and by adding Pico as a PC instead of Goroh they could increase Pico's popularity so he's as famous as Goroh

2) Pico has a very small fan base, more people are rooting for Black Shadow, now that Goroh is an Assist
Only because they for some reason think he is the main villain when he's not. Black Shadow is a completely unimportant character and has always been Deathborns puppet. Also Sakurai said himself that popular characters bore him

3) It doesn't matter that he caused a huge crash, and you keep mentioning that.
Yes it DOES matter he caused a great crash because of the important effects it had on the story like Blood Falcon being created, F-Zero being shut down for a few years and I think the robot guy (Gazzelle something) was turned into what he is because of it.

4) Who cares that he looks cool, Kirby doesn't look cool, nor does he have much too him, and he has been welcomed in all three SSB games.
???? When did I use this as a reason for his inclusion?

5) As it has been mentioned before, your 'original four' argument means nothing, Goroh and Dr. Summer were also in the original four, and they will not be playable characters.
I shouldn't even have to defend this argument since Marth being in melee basically proved it to be right. The original characters in a series are the ones who started it all therefore making them all stars of that franchise. The fact that they are the only four characters on the F-Zero GX cover art alone should prove that. Now Pico and Falcon are the two members of the original four who are most important story wise so it would make sense to have them as the two playable characters while Stewart and Goroh are AT's. this way all four of them get into brawl withought taking as much time and space.

EDIT: I love how the idiots who think their smart are the first to spam.
 

skullkidd

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I give up, your too stubborn, and we can't realize that Pico has high chances because it is obvious that he doesn't.
 

the grim lizard

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Black Shadow is not never has been and never will be Falcons nemesis. Deathborn is Falcons true nemesis and Pico was the first evil character in the series which makes them both villains who are more important than mr. batman wannabe.
Black Shadow: Black Shadow is a cold-blooded king of evil feared by all. However, Captain Falcon has seen much success capturing his foot soldiers, and Black Shadow wants nothing more than to see the end of this meddling bounty hunter, preferably in front of millions of fans.

Deathborn: This mysterious pilot makes even Black Shadow, the evil emperor, shudder with fear. Since the huge accident four years ago, several F-Zero pilots have turned up missing--in all of the missing-persons investigations conducted by the Space Police, Deathborn was the primary suspect. Deathborn has died three times, but each time was brought back to life by exchanging his real body parts for mechanical ones. Though these procedures he has become essentially immortal. A device installed within his body allows him to travel freely through space, making it possible for him to mysteriously appear anywhere at any time. He banishes those he dislikes to the outer limits of space, where they become drifting vagabonds for all eternity. Deathborn is plotting to take over the universe--his plan is to obtain the ultimate power that would allow him to determine life and death on every star as he sees fit.

(doesn't mention Falcon at all)
 

Numa Dude

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Black Shadow: Black Shadow is a cold-blooded king of evil feared by all. However, Captain Falcon has seen much success capturing his foot soldiers, and Black Shadow wants nothing more than to see the end of this meddling bounty hunter, preferably in front of millions of fans.

Deathborn: This mysterious pilot makes even Black Shadow, the evil emperor, shudder with fear. Since the huge accident four years ago, several F-Zero pilots have turned up missing--in all of the missing-persons investigations conducted by the Space Police, Deathborn was the primary suspect. Deathborn has died three times, but each time was brought back to life by exchanging his real body parts for mechanical ones. Though these procedures he has become essentially immortal. A device installed within his body allows him to travel freely through space, making it possible for him to mysteriously appear anywhere at any time. He banishes those he dislikes to the outer limits of space, where they become drifting vagabonds for all eternity. Deathborn is plotting to take over the universe--his plan is to obtain the ultimate power that would allow him to determine life and death on every star as he sees fit.

(doesn't mention Falcon at all)
So? He's still the true villain of F-Zero and he even killed Black Shadow in GX.
 

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Everyone, stop posting here. Let this lowly thread and it's stubborn captain sink to the bottom of the pile where it belongs. Abandon thread!!! Grab a life jacket and get into ye' life boats.
 

skullkidd

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Everyone, stop posting here. Let this lowly thread and it's stubborn captain sink to the bottom of the pile where it belongs. Abandon thread!!! Grab a life jacket and get into ye' life boats.
I agree! Do not post here!
 

Shuma

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Yes mr. Sutborn captain, you win.

Care to sink with your thread?

-The end.
 

axemangx

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Right now, it's Black Shadow or nothing. He's more popular than Pico, and he's a villain, which the series needs more of. The only argument I've heard so far, in Pico's defense, is that he was one of the original four racers. Yeah, like anyone gives a **** if he was one of the original racers. I'm surprised at some of the people on these boards; they're just not willing to accept defeat even when their *** has been handed to them on a silver platter.



^^^

Exactaly like Peach being one of the characters in Melee. Who cares if shes a princess? She always gets kidnapped. I rest my case..
 

Shuma

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What arrogant tones? how the hell can you distinguish tones on the internet? I'm not being arrogant. At least i don't think i'm being arrogant.
 

Numa Dude

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What arrogant tones? how the hell can you distinguish tones on the internet? I'm not being arrogant. At least i don't think i'm being arrogant.
When you've been on the boards as long as I have you can easily tell someones tone when posting by how they word their posts. You'd know that if you hadn't spamed almost all your posts.
 

Shuma

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You know, it's not like this is the first forum i'm no, and let me assure you, i'm not trying to be arrogant.
 

Shuma

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Oh come on, it's just that it is true than Pico isn't very important, but let's not go there.
 

Shuma

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I already sayd why i think he isn't important before.

The most important thing he has done is create a crash, as far as i know that's all he has done, Black Shadow is the main villain of the F-zero games and is Falcon's Arch-Nemesis or whatever.

Now i'm not saying Pico isn't cool, he's Cool and i would love to see him in Brawl instead of Black Shadow, but i have the feeling that if Sakurai adds a new F-zero character then it will be Black Shadow.
 

Numa Dude

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I already sayd why i think he isn't important before.

The most important thing he has done is create a crash, as far as i know that's all he has done, Black Shadow is the main villain of the F-zero games and is Falcon's Arch-Nemesis or whatever.

Now i'm not saying Pico isn't cool, he's Cool and i would love to see him in Brawl instead of Black Shadow, but i have the feeling that if Sakurai adds a new F-zero character then it will be Black Shadow.
Black Shadow being the main villain is debatable so stop bringing it up also the great crash is THE most important event in F-Zero history for reasons I've already covered. Then there is the original four thing.
 

Shuma

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It might be the most important event, but Pico isn't the most important character in the series, also if Black Shadow isn't the villain then who is? IIRC Deathborn has only appeared in GX. Also the Four original thing is irrelevant, Samurai Goroh is a AT Pico could also be an AT or just don't appear in the game.

Also i very much doubt that Sakurai knows the F-zero Story.
 

Numa Dude

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It might be the most important event, but Pico isn't the most important character in the series,
Well DUH it doesn't make him the most important character in the franchise, that honor goes to the mascot captain falcon. It does however put him above all of the insignifigant drivers who aren't important to the story which is basically like 98% of the F-Zero roster.

also if Black Shadow isn't the villain then who is? IIRC Deathborn has only appeared in GX.
He may have only appeared in GX but from the very begining Deathborne had been behind the scenes controlling Black Shadow like a puppet.

Also the Four original thing is irrelevant, Samurai Goroh is a AT Pico could also be an AT or just don't appear in the game.
You once again say this point is irrevelant withought any reason and just leave it at that. GOROH IS AN IRREVELANT CHARACTER! Stop putting Goroh on a high pedestal and acting like he is the second most important character in the series when he isn't. You put too much emphasis on Goroh's rival status and because of that when he became an AT everyone instantly either started thinking F-Zero was getting one rep or thinking that it was either Black Shadow or no one. THINK BEFORE BLINDLY SUPPORTING A CHARACTER!

Also i very much doubt that Sakurai knows the F-zero Story.[/QUOTE]

I'm just going to ignore the stupidity of this comment and say that even if he didn't it would take less than 15 minutes to learn everything he needs to know.
 

Shuma

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Everything he needs to know is what are the important characters surrounding Falcon's History, wich are Black Shadow, Blood Falcon and Deathborn.
 
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