Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
Who revived this stupid thread? Didn't it sink along with it's captain like a month ago?
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Pico for brawl.
- Thread starter Numa Dude
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axemangx
Smash Champion
Gypsy, we're trying to have a conversation. Dont make it die again.
Brawlmatt202
Smash Champion
Trust me, even if the ship sank, the captain would have survived either way.
Besides, it's a fairly plausible suggestion.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
So he should just look at the characters who have a connection to Falcon and ignore everyone else? Sorry but that is an idiotic thing to say.
This is why I hate fan boys. They either worship a character suggestion like it's god or they hate it with a burning passion. You know what Gypsy just go away. No one cares about you just go. You are just another one of the nOOBS who think they are smart because of their post count.
Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
FYI, I like a number of characters, especially the ones who are deserving and have a legitimate shot at being in Brawl. I could care less about Pico. The reason I will be attending the next few pages of this thread (until it dies again) is because I dislike you Numa Dude. So far, I've been called well over twenty different derogatory names since I joined in the conversation by you. Um, yeah.... you're kinda on my ****list, too.
Oh, and I don't think nothing of my post count. I could honestly care less about it. And calling me a noob is a bit hypocritical on your part. Seeing as you've been acting the most immature throughout this thread. So yeah, STFU.
Wiseguy
Smash Champion
http://www.******.com/~tegan/blog/blogpics/bb_squidward.jpg
CAN'T YOU SEE YOUR FIGHTING IS TEARING US APART?!?!?!?!
My thoughts? Pico would be a neat character, but it seems a bit far fetched (to me, at least) that he would be chosen as a second F-Zero rep over Saumerai Goroh (who is far more well known). Still, there was a time when predicting Pokemon Trainer got you labeled as a crazy person... so who knows.
Oh man, that could be used so many times in reference to HMS.
Wiseguy, you sure do like your Spongebob/Squidward pictures, don't ya? The PT case is entirely different though, I wish people would stop using it to justify other characters everyone thinks is unlikely. Like I said before, PT fighting as a character would never have gotten it but instead he's justified by the Pokemon he's fighting with. Pico would need to be included entirely on his own merits and I think he has a lot going against him seeming that main villains (such as Black Shadow) are far more known and popular. Don't really know much about the F-Zero "storyline" though in order to make a decent enough case, but I'm sure someone's already done that.
Pizza Robo
Smash Journeyman
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I would like to see Pico in Brawl,He could be a mix of Fox and Captain Falcon
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
So you admit you are one of the nOOBS who only support the most likely characters in order to sound smart.
Wow. You're the first person to admit that your personal dislike of me is the only reason you attack my character ideas.
I only flame people who deserve it and you sir deserve it.
If being immature means being the only person on the entire thread using their brain then I guess I'm guilty.
CAN'T YOU SEE SPONGEBOB STOPED BEING COOL YEARS AGO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
GOD **** IT SHUT UP ABOUT GOROH! This is what happens when the fans get carried away with an idea. Goroh was put on a high pedestal by the fans and when he was deconfirmed they automaticaly assumed the worst that F-Zero was getting either one rep or it was BS or no one. SAKURAI DOESN'T THINK THE SAME AS THE FANS!!!!!!!!
That's it. After this anyone who says anything degrading like this about HMS they will be considered illiterate. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WANTING A CHARACTER AND THINKING THAT CHARACTER HAS GOOD CHANCES! Just because I WANT HMS doesn't mean I think he has a good chance.
Here we go again with the "Other characters are more well known" argument. Sakurai could care less how well known the character is because by including a deserving but unknown character like Pico he could make that character more well known and as famous as they deserve to be.
flame_overlord
Smash Rookie
lol i thought you meant the pico from Newgrounds...
Wiseguy
Smash Champion
True, but Squidward didn't. He still owns.
We know very little about how Sakurai feels about the F-Zero series, so we can't assume anything. Personally, I took Goroh's presense in Melee's intro movie as a sign that Sakurai considers him to be Falcon's rival.GOD **** IT SHUT UP ABOUT GOROH! This is what happens when the fans get carried away with an idea. Goroh was put on a high pedestal by the fans and when he was deconfirmed they automaticaly assumed the worst that F-Zero was getting either one rep or it was BS or no one. SAKURAI DOESN'T THINK THE SAME AS THE FANS!!!!!!!!
But you are correct: Sakurai doesn't think the same as most fans. Pokemon Trainer is proof of this. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he thinks the same as you, Numa.
Pico would be a fine choice as a second F-Zero rep, but I can't help but remain skeptical. Without knowing how many playable characters there will be, we can't even be sure that there will be room for a second F-Zero rep.
Peace.
Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
Pico will not be in Brawl. I need convincing Numa Dude. Apparently I'm a total noob.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
Sandy>Squidward.True, but Squidward didn't. He still owns.
Wow he's Falcon's rival just like every other evil racer in F-Zero. The fact of the matter is that just because a character has some sort of relation to the main character doesn't make them important. It's what they DO that makes them important and since Pico has actually done something to impact the story unlike the majority of the racers I'd say that puts him above almost all of the other racers. Then of course he is part of the original four which makes him basically an all star of F-Zero.
I would hope that I don't think the same as him.
I see no reason for there to be less than 45-50 characters in the game. First off they have a huge *** team that has only gotten bigger with time. Second they have third party support. Third they are reusing the melee engine so they have basically all of the code left from melee. Fourth they have clones to fall back on. Really I don't see why people always have to assume the worst about brawl. It's kinda annoying.
You see this is why smashboards has gone down the drain lately. All of these sarcastic arrogant douchebags who think they are smart because they can flame the guy who doesn't agree with them. I have already said all of the reasons needed to convince you of Pico's chances but you have conviently not even tried to counter most of them and the ones you did bother to counter you basically just said they where wrong with no reasoning. Please either grow a pair of balls and admit you where wrong or go away.
Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
*sigh*
This whole thing is just Numa Dude flaming anyone who disagrees with him and then acting like he just pwned someone. This thread blows harder than Numa Dude on prom night.
This whole thing is just Numa Dude flaming anyone who disagrees with him and then acting like he just pwned someone. This thread blows harder than Numa Dude on prom night.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
Is flaming people who can't give you the *** beating you deserve because it's over the internet your replacement for sex? You seriously need to get a life. I don't know why you've decided to hate me like you do but you need to realize that flaming someone on the internet for no reason is not only idiotic but it's also immature. Also just because you can insult someone in a calm way doesn't make you a man. It does the exact opposite and makes you a *****. You are worse than the guys who flamed me for HMS. Ironically those guys only flamed me about HMS because they didn't like me just like you're doing now.
I anwsered this in the part of my post you conviently ignored.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
You are illiterate. In my post I explained why Pico is more important than the other evil racers and I also explained why it doesn't matter if he has a relationship with Falcon.
Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
Whatever you say.
I guess I'll just sit around and wait for Pico to be deconfirmed instead of expressing my thoughts on the matter, because then I would have no life.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
So spaming the ridley thread didn't already make it so you had no life?Whatever you say.
I guess I'll just sit around and wait for Pico to be deconfirmed instead of expressing my thoughts on the matter, because then I would have no life.
Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
Well, at the Ridley thread, I was simply praying to Ridley and asking him for forgiveness of my sins so that I may be permitted to join him in the afterlife. So, if having no life so that I have a good afterlife counts, then I guess so.
Man, I wish I was as cool as you. Making threads for hopeless characters and defending them to the point that you start making things up and flaming other... *sigh* I'll never be that badass in my life.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
Man I wish I was as cool as you. Not having my own opinion and instead just following what the majority says like a mindless zombie and when someone goes against the crowd I flame them to the point where they retaliate so I can say they are just a douche who flames people who don't agree with them. Yep I'll never be as freaking awesome as that.Man, I wish I was as cool as you. Making threads for hopeless characters and defending them to the point that you start making things up and flaming other... *sigh* I'll never be that badass in my life.
Since the Trainer incident there are no hopeless chars dududuuun.
Aniway, I do think Pico would make a great addition to Brawl, come on he's a tortoise, but unless Sakura pulls another "Trainer" with Pico, then i expect Black Shadow to be in the game.
Aniway, I do think Pico would make a great addition to Brawl, come on he's a tortoise, but unless Sakura pulls another "Trainer" with Pico, then i expect Black Shadow to be in the game.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
If that's your opinion so be it. Right now I'm starting to think Black Shadow will be in myself but I'm just tired of the people who haven't even given Pico a chance say he will never be in the game.
Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
As cool as me you say? Well.. maybe some day *pats back* Just be yourself and you'll be fine, buddy.
As for a new F Zero rep, I think it'll be some buff guy in a skin tight, leather animal themed racing suit. I dunno, Sakurai just looks like the type that is in to that stuff.
To be honest Numa Dude you really do resort to flaming whoever goes against you far too easily. You're also flaming him for him flaming you after you flamed him, which gets as ironic as it sounds rediculous. For example I jokingly pointed out what I saw as a little irony in the blindly supporting a character quote (for example I seem to remember adamant rants in the Zelda thread about HMS being more likely than Midna with Stryks I believe, correct me if I'm wrong please, which just ended up turning into another flame war anyway) and you responded by getting very defensive.
You also didn't do anything to discredit the Black Shadow popularity argument. You say that "Sakurai couldn't care less about popularity" yet at the same time agree that you don't know what the hell Sakurai is thinking or planning, which is very much a contradiction. Sakurai might very well include Black Shadow because he is more well known and popular than Pico, nobody knows. To claim otherwise is rediculous.
Oh and Shuma please don't bring up PT. Like I said just a page back to Wiseguy, "Like I said before, PT fighting as a character would never have gotten it but instead he's justified by the Pokemon he's fighting with". PT was important to the franchise and the Pokemon he was included are all very popular and have been icons of the Pokemon franchise and just because no-one predicted that it would happen in that way doesn't justify any WTF or very unlikely character in every freakin' Nintendo game. Pico isn't any more likely because of PT being confirmed, but he isn't any less likely either. I wish people would stop retardedly bringing him up.
You also didn't do anything to discredit the Black Shadow popularity argument. You say that "Sakurai couldn't care less about popularity" yet at the same time agree that you don't know what the hell Sakurai is thinking or planning, which is very much a contradiction. Sakurai might very well include Black Shadow because he is more well known and popular than Pico, nobody knows. To claim otherwise is rediculous.
Oh and Shuma please don't bring up PT. Like I said just a page back to Wiseguy, "Like I said before, PT fighting as a character would never have gotten it but instead he's justified by the Pokemon he's fighting with". PT was important to the franchise and the Pokemon he was included are all very popular and have been icons of the Pokemon franchise and just because no-one predicted that it would happen in that way doesn't justify any WTF or very unlikely character in every freakin' Nintendo game. Pico isn't any more likely because of PT being confirmed, but he isn't any less likely either. I wish people would stop retardedly bringing him up.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
I don't recall ever getting into a flame war with stryks about HMS on that thread. I do however recall a flame war between me and Stryks on that thread because he wouldn't stop being such a Midna fanboy. However you are right I do get mad very easliy but Gypsy deserves to be flamed for being such a douche and not even as much as reading why I want Pico in brawl before shooting off his mouth about Black Shadow. It didn't help he was insulting me outside this thread as well.
Actually Sakurai said himself that popular characters bore him.
axemangx
Smash Champion
Pico'd be cool, but he seems like the other character from F-Zero that'd come other than BS
Sakurai did say he wasn't going to include Characters just 'cause of popularity, but he never sayd they bored him, don't twist his words Mr. Numa.
Also Bull**** i mean Black Shadow isn't popular aniway, so who knows. Anyone could get in brawl i really don't care who gets in along with Cap'n Falcon, i just hope it isn't Black Shadow.
Also Bull**** i mean Black Shadow isn't popular aniway, so who knows. Anyone could get in brawl i really don't care who gets in along with Cap'n Falcon, i just hope it isn't Black Shadow.
Wiseguy
Smash Champion
From the sounds of it, Pico's chances are dependant on how familiar Sakurai is with the F-Zero storyline. Clearly, he has SOME knowlege of the franchise (or people on his staff do) but there are F-Zero fans (myself included) who like the games more for their lightning fast pace and tight controls than the characters and storyline.
Obviously, there is no evidence that Sakurai DOESN'T value the F-Zero storyline and characters. But when the guy miss spells Goroh's name on his website, you have to wonder...
Don't mistake brilliance for drug use, my friend.I would hope that I don't think the same as him.
I'm not assuming the worst, I'm just being realistic. Sakurai has more priorities than simply including as many characters as possible. More stages, items and modes - not to mention the Subspace Emisary and maybe an online mode - all take up valuable development time as well.
It's also worth noting that a bigger roster doesn't necessarily make for a better game. Sakurai could probably include 45-50 characters if he wanted, but if he chooses to limit the number to around 35-40 it would result in a far more balanced roster where no character has a significant advantage over another.
Again, we can't assume anything. We don't know what the final roster size will be. All I'm saying is that there is a POSSIBILITY that the roster size won't be large enough for a second F-Zero rep to be included. Essentially, I'm concerned that your expectations for the roster are so high that you could be disappointed.
Sorry Vali, guess I missed that the first time.
Yes, I know Pico's chances haven't increased or decreased since PT's confirmation. But it did sort of demonstrate that Sakurai is capable of including seemingly unlikely characters in creative ways that we wouldn't otherwise have anticipated. Something that sounds crazy today could later turn up unexpectantly. That's all I'm saying.
axemangx
Smash Champion
Yeah, thats what I was thinking... turtles have their possibilities 
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
I doubt Nintendo would have someone with no knowledge of Nintendo characters and their importance make a game for nintendo all stars. That would seem a little stupid. Also Sakurai didn't do any of the updates excpet for the Japanese one. The rest where done by translators so blame them for misspelling Goroh.
Drug use is the only reason Nintendo has survived so long in the harsh corporate world.
You are forgetting the size of the team they have. They could easily have a set number of people making characters and a set number of people implementing all of the other stuff.
Melee was rushed and didn't have enough time to be tested and that is why there where so many broken characters. Brawl doesn't have that problem because brawl was never set to be released at a certain time putting strain on the developers and making them rush. Plus they still have and are using the melee engine and code which really cuts down on what they have to do.
You really need more faith in the brawl team. This is Sakurai's last smash so he will want to go out with a bang.
Numa Dude
Smash Lord
Then you're gonna hate this.
Brawlmatt202
Smash Champion
I say it's mostly because of Numa Dude, but I dont' want to be rude.
Gypsy Lee
Smash Champion
Please stop bumping this stupid thread.
Brawlmatt202
Smash Champion
What do you have against Petey Piranha?!
I mean Naruto, Sora, even Waluigi (who I really want in Brawl, actually), I can understand, but what's with all the Petey Piranha hatred?!