pick yur poison | ovah

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I literally said that? Please quote it.

Semantics, you more or less just said that and it screams of a large issue I hate with newbies in epicmafia. If you are going to play a game where you expect to follow just the PRs I will immediately join any lynch or vig shot on you.

 

[JeXs]

And what is wrong with that? I can think of another example from d0 of a player doing that and no called him out for it.

What is wrong with that is that it makes us stay in the phase longer for no actual reason but to allow him to lurk while other players argue over roles

 

[Seal]

JeXs and Ryu are you denying the fact that people can lie and lead people on to the wrong conclusion? You both seem to think if someone acts like a towny would they are confirmed town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm going to 2nd voting Ranmaru.
For the strategy I have in mind we need him gone first.

Vote Ranmaru

I want none of this, lay out why he is scum in full detail.

 

[JeXs]

JeXs and Ryu are you denying the fact that people can lie and lead people on to the wrong conclusion? You both seem to think if someone acts like a towny would they are confirmed town.

Remind me what the day phase is for again

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

JeXs and Ryu are you denying the fact that people can lie and lead people on to the wrong conclusion? You both seem to think if someone acts like a towny would they are confirmed town.

Welcome to day play, where you figure that out and try to read people if they are likely town or scum.

It's called reading and far more important in mafia than having PRs, PRs balance a set-up. If your set-up is won from playing follow the cop, your set-up is terrible.

 

[JayTheUnseen]

What is wrong with that is that it makes us stay in the phase longer for no actual reason but to allow him to lurk while other players argue over roles

That is good only for town and not scum, scum is what Ran was doing, rushing things.

I want none of this, lay out why he is scum in full detail.

Then lay out why I am scum please,especially as I already asked you to elaborate on why I am without you answering.

 

[JeXs]

That is good only for town and not scum, scum is what Ran was doing, rushing things.

What??????!?!?!?!!!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That is good only for town and not scum, scum is what Ran was doing, rushing things.


Then lay out why I am scum please,especially as I already asked you to elaborate on why I am without you answering.

This is not answering my question.

@ JeXs vote Jaytheunseen please.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

also wut at what first part of that post.

 

[JayTheUnseen]

This is not answering my question.

@ JeXs vote Jaytheunseen please.

I do not feel like writing an essay for you right now especially when YOU are willing to ignore my questions while having your bro JeXs over there vote.


Not that I expect you to believe that.

 

[Maven89]

Unvote

Vote: Jay

Seal you are not understanding the basics of this game. It's based on there being almost no evidence and you scum reading people based off the posts they make. That is literally, literally the entire point of this game.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ranmaru lynch is terrible.

At worst he has been jumping the gun and trying to push for day 1 to start, at worst. At best, he has been active and trying to contribute to the thread while offering ideas and trying to lay out a clear mindset.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I do not feel like writing an essay for you right now especially when YOU are willing to ignore my questions while having your bro JeXs over there vote.


Not that I expect you to believe that.

Try.

 

[JayTheUnseen]

also wut at what first part of that post.

Which is better for town:discussion over which roles to give mafia or rushing things before some people can even post.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Which is better for town:discussion over which roles to give mafia or rushing things before some people can even post.

He had a different mindset for that, that's partly why I gave him the benefit of the doubt while I did not at all agree with what he did.

 

[JeXs]

Mafia would want to stay in the phase longer and either attempt a push on the role they would want or support the people pushing the role they want. Are you telling me mafia would not want to choose their roles?

 

[JayTheUnseen]

Try.

lol,you want me to point out what has already been pointed out while you ignore my own questions?Lol.

 

[Dooms]

Ranmaru lynch is terrible.

At worst he has been jumping the gun and trying to push for day 1 to start, at worst. At best, he has been active and trying to contribute to the thread while offering ideas and trying to lay out a clear mindset.

Have you seen his Watt vote?

Yeah I'm not moving my vote off of Ran.

 

[Maven89]

I'm actually thinking Joey probably fake claimed, Jex just got confused at Joey's argument about the whole meta debacle and that's where the anger came from, and ranmaru probably just plays slightly sloppy which i'm confusing for deliberate sabotage

 

[JayTheUnseen]

Unvote

Vote: Jay

Seal you are not understanding the basics of this game. It's based on there being almost no evidence and you scum reading people based off the posts they make. That is literally, literally the entire point of this game.

Red Ryu do you want an essay as to what makes me scum from him?

 

[Dooms]

Also want Ranmaru over JeXs.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Have you seen his Watt vote?

Yeah I'm not moving my vote off of Ran.

Show me.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Red Ryu do you want an essay as to what makes me scum from him?

I just want you to lay out a slightly detailed reason(s) why Ran is scum.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm out for now, will check back later.

 

[Maven89]

Jay he's not asking for why others are voting ranmaru, but for why you are voting him, and he wants it to be in your own words. It's a normal request and something every player has to answer to, so please go do it

 

[JayTheUnseen]

I just want you to lay out a slightly detailed reason(s) why Ran is scum.

Now that I can agree to.


On d0 he wanted to push things from the start.However he kept quiet about till the end,when he told us all to stop moaning,which would be a nice time to push for the finish when we were all undecided on which roles.Also he wanted janitor, which is a terrible role over vengeful.

His buddying with JeXs is excessive. Jumping on Joey with bad points mostly due to Joey's scum read on JeXs ( whose play has been suspicious all game ) is not to go unnoticed.
Both Ran and JeXs have too much faith in the other.

I still feel his questioning on me was a push because I was a newbie he hoped to make slip up.

Then, he switches to Wotts suddenly,saying as his reason "Jay seems more confident in his reads now."Ergo jumping on what he hoped would become a wagon before it actually was one.
Why should he trust me whom he had as a suspicious noob a few seconds before?

 

[JayTheUnseen]

Also hw's pushing too much on Joey after the claim, I think.

 

[JayTheUnseen]

Also, if one of JeXs or Ran is scum, the other is most likely.
Which is why I'd like to lynch both to force mafia to not be able to cover both their roles.

 

[JeXs]

Also, if one of JeXs or Ran is scum, the other is most likely.
Which is why I'd like to lynch both to force mafia to not be able to cover both their roles.

What are you basing this off? My defense of him?

Now that I can agree to.


On d0 he wanted to push things from the start.However he kept quiet about till the end,when he told us all to stop moaning,which would be a nice time to push for the finish when we were all undecided on which roles.Also he wanted janitor, which is a terrible role over vengeful.

His buddying with JeXs is excessive. Jumping on Joey with bad points mostly due to Joey's scum read on JeXs ( whose play has been suspicious all game ) is not to go unnoticed.
Both Ran and JeXs have too much faith in the other.

I still feel his questioning on me was a push because I was a newbie he hoped to make slip up.

Then, he switches to Wotts suddenly,saying as his reason "Jay seems more confident in his reads now."Ergo jumping on what he hoped would become a wagon before it actually was one.
Why should he trust me whom he had as a suspicious noob a few seconds before?

Ran didn't buddy me. He had joey as scum before joey scum read me. Please show me why my play has been suspicious all game.

 

[JayTheUnseen]

What are you basing this off? My defense of him?

Ran didn't buddy me. He had joey as scum before joey scum read me. Please show me why my play has been suspicious all game.

Short version:
Posted short comments and didn't give many reasons behind your reads.

 

[JeXs]

Short version:
Posted short comments and didn't give many reasons behind your reads.

Short posts = scum? My only reads I put in thread were gheb which I gave my reasoning and maven which was a gut read.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

PS: I am hella glad a bunch of other people read the role choices harder than I did in the 10 minutes before I left for tourney.

 

[Maven89]

Short posts = scum? My only reads I put in thread were gheb which I gave my reasoning and maven which was a gut read.

what are your reads now then?

 

[Maven89]

Unvote: Jay

 

[JayTheUnseen]

Short posts = scum? My only reads I put in thread were gheb which I gave my reasoning and maven which was a gut read.

True,BUT,Gheb was not too good logic to my mind,and Maven as a gut read = no reasons behind the read.

Also,you said Zen was likely town without giving reasons.

 

[JeXs]

Ranmaru, zen, ryu as town
You a town lean
Seal and Jay Idk how to read
Gheb and WATT scummy

 

[JeXs]

True,BUT,Gheb was not too good logic to my mind,and Maven as a gut read = no reasons behind the read.

Also,you said Zen was likely town without giving reasons.

You are suspicious of me for disagreeing with your reads. A gut read is just that, gut. It won't lead to a lynch and why is having a gut read suspicious?

 

[JayTheUnseen]

You are suspicious of me for disagreeing with your reads. A gut read is just that, gut. It won't lead to a lynch and why is having a gut read suspicious?

I feel like Ran is too clearly scum to trust someone who believes he is town so strongly.This coupled with your play this game makes you seem suspicious.
A gut read should avoid being spoken because it's really superficial.

@ Maven89
Who are you leaning towards vote wise?

 

[JeXs]

Ok then since you seem to have 0 intentions of changing your read.