Personal matchup thread.

[Deleted member]

Shugo is REALLY good. #1 PR in Ohio for a good reason.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Shugo is REALLY good. #1 PR in Ohio for a good reason.

Oh I know. I may have lost, but I shine spiked him once on YI so it's all worth it.

 

[Chuee]

Some of these people have to be trolling :/

 

[Deleted member]

Oh I know. I may have lost, but I shine spiked him once on YI so it's all worth it.

I side-B sweet spotted him for the kill. lol

Yay for ways he shouldn't get killed by Wolf. Then again, spacies are easy to shine spike. I'm just always afraid to try it.

 

[MegaRobMan]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

play good falcos pls.

I won't claim to have played dabess Falcos like you probably have, but if you don't get grabbed at stupid %'s and know that the falco is still trying to grab you into a dacus...it's very doable. Wolf beats Falco other than in straight up laser camping outside of the CG garbage, but we have a better reflector :0 I know Falco has an awesome jab, his laser is good, but his phantasm sucks only slightly less than Fox's. I love phantasm happy Falcos, they eat lasers/F-smashs/Dacus's instead of the worm. This match-up isn't easy, but it's not impossible. I think IC's is way harder, but people are fine with that match-up being 50-50. Crazy imo.

I'm really just carefree and like arguing LOL.

Like this guy.

I still want to know how you destroy Wario's, MegaRobMan.

60-40 isn't destroying, it's just winning 6/10 times. I watched Bassum play at a tournament and took A LOT of mental notes. I haven't played a Wario in his class ever, but I beat Seiuku's Wario 4 rounds in a row (He's Iowas #1, even over Joker), beat a pretty good Wario this weekend (without using much laser), and ***** the IC guy I lost to's Wario because he didn't ban brinstar. I'd like to post the videos (I have like 10 from this weekend), but I have to wait until the Lucas posts them.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Falcos grab range sucks compared to D3 who I have problems with. Reason? Space Bear is super easy against Falco, unless he pivot grabs. That's about all there is to it, Wolf beats Falco in every phase of the game, just play careful as hell until 50%

Spoiler

or the entire matchup lol

he's just used to playing my Falco LOL.

 

[MegaRobMan]

GG222, the only time you ever beat me was when I was just jumping into your grabs (and I was drunk). No offense, but just keepin it real. I've played MMM and Typ-Ex (who destroyed me in the round he CG'd me, I won the other 2 w/o it.) and some other pretty good random Falcos OOS. I stand by my assessment of it. Just play Falco/Pika basically like you would play IC's.

 

[Chuee]

60-40 isn't destroying, it's just winning 6/10 times. I watched Bassum play at a tournament and took A LOT of mental notes. I haven't played a Wario in his class ever, but I beat Seiuku's Wario 4 rounds in a row (He's Iowas #1, even over Joker), beat a pretty good Wario this weekend (without using much laser), and ***** the IC guy I lost to's Wario because he didn't ban brinstar. I'd like to post the videos (I have like 10 from this weekend), but I have to wait until the Lucas posts them.

Try playing warios that use the Dthrow CG

 

[MegaRobMan]

I'd love to!!!!!!!!!!...they just grow on trees, right? Just don't get grabbed (usual answer).

I dunno, like I said I've never played one that's super good so I can't really talk. These are just "personal" match-ups. That doesn't mean what I believe the match-up to be other than the obvious trolls, just who I've played in a bad region.

 

[Choice]

wario + dthrow cg is so annoying =/

its almost as bad as the ganon mu

 

[-Mars-]

I would love to play you doods with my Sheik.

 

[MegaRobMan]

If you are just NOW finishing Chrono Trigger you want nothing to do with my Wolf

 

[KRDsonic]

I would love to play your sheik with my better sheik

 

[Ishiey]

Wario's dthrow CG isn't hard at all actually, people just think the throw ends earlier than it does so they try to buffer the turnaround before the actual buffer period starts. It's just tap back > grab, nothing big

@ Mars: I wish there were good Sheik mains in NJ :/ Someone who really knows their stale moves and whatnot with Sheik could be a pain, but I've never had that issue. Either I get out of the ftilt lock after eating maybe 40% (which really isn't that bad at all for Wolf lol) and then Sheik struggles to kill me until like 160%... Do you feel like Zelda is actually useful for getting kills vs Wolf?

 

[Seagull Joe]

Wario's dthrow CG isn't hard at all actually, people just think the throw ends earlier than it does so they try to buffer the turnaround before the actual buffer period starts. It's just tap back > grab, nothing big

@ Mars: I wish there were good Sheik mains in NJ :/ Someone who really knows their stale moves and whatnot with Sheik could be a pain, but I've never had that issue. Either I get out of the ftilt lock after eating maybe 40% (which really isn't that bad at all for Wolf lol) and then Sheik struggles to kill me until like 160%... Do you feel like Zelda is actually useful for getting kills vs Wolf?

There used to be a really good Sheik/Zelda from Nj. What was his name...Rykoshet? Or that's maybe an Ike player. I think it started with an R.

 

[-Mars-]

Wario's dthrow CG isn't hard at all actually, people just think the throw ends earlier than it does so they try to buffer the turnaround before the actual buffer period starts. It's just tap back > grab, nothing big

@ Mars: I wish there were good Sheik mains in NJ :/ Someone who really knows their stale moves and whatnot with Sheik could be a pain, but I've never had that issue. Either I get out of the ftilt lock after eating maybe 40% (which really isn't that bad at all for Wolf lol) and then Sheik struggles to kill me until like 160%... Do you feel like Zelda is actually useful for getting kills vs Wolf?

No. Zelda gets spaced to death by Wolf lol. I just stay Sheik and kill with nair at like 200 or something lol.

There used to be a really good Sheik/Zelda from Nj. What was his name...Rykoshet? Or that's maybe an Ike player. I think it started with an R.

Rykoshet is an Ike.....maybe Rathy Aro? Although I don't think he's very good/active anymore.

 

[Seagull Joe]

No. Zelda gets spaced to death by Wolf lol. I just stay Sheik and kill with nair at like 200 or something lol.



Rykoshet is an Ike.....maybe Rathy Aro? Although I don't think he's very good/active anymore.

I remembered. It was RyokoYaksa or just Ryoko what he went by. He used to be a beast.

 

[-Mars-]

O yea Ryoko quit in like early 09. The godfather of Sheik pretty much lol.

 

[KRDsonic]

I remember his name but I don't really remember which sheiks were which since I haven't been to her character board in about 2 years.

 

[Goldenadept]

i love playing sheik, both as and against, now if only i was good with her...

 

[Z1GMA]

Wolf has easier match-ups than Ganon.

By than, I mean Ganon isn't his easiest MU.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Wolf has easier match-ups than Ganon.

By than, I mean Ganon isn't his easiest MU.

Then what is Mr. Ganon main?

 

[KRDsonic]

You realize that Wolf isn't exactly known for having **** matchups against characters right? o.O

 

[Z1GMA]

I'd say Bowser is your easiest MU
- Followed by C.Falcon, then Ganon.

But that's just me..

 

[castorpollux]

wolf dittoes are easiest for me. therefore wolf is wolf's easiest matchup!

 

[KRDsonic]

You should alt wolf and prove that to us. We could use more wofl users :D

 

[_Kain_]

When you literaly can jus bair all day and not have to worry those are **** matches. This works in MU's like

Ganon, Link, Zelda

lol triforce of ****

Idk prolly works against others too

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I dunno if Bair alone will **** Link, but it doesn't matter it's 35-65 or something against Link.

 

[castorpollux]

what are you talking about, link can just stand there and our lazor won't do anything?!

LINK IS HARDDD

 

[_Kain_]

what are you talking about, link can just stand there and our lazor won't do anything?!

LINK IS HARDDD

i forgot about the shield....

 

[Ishiey]

I'd say Bowser is your easiest MU
- Followed by C.Falcon, then Ganon.

But that's just me..

What makes Bowser so easy? I have like 0 Bowser experience (lol Bowser experience), but just wondering. CF is pretty easy, as are a number of other low-tier characters, including Ganon. I've played Verm (who is awesome, in case that isn't common knowledge for some strange reason) so I feel pretty confident with where I placed the Ganon MU, no offense but it's still Ganon :/ He has lots of cool things, but when it comes down to it almost nothing is fast enough or safe enough. Air grabs will always be a pain though X_x

 

[Seagull Joe]

When you literaly can jus bair all day and not have to worry those are **** matches. This works in MU's like

Ganon, Link, Zelda

lol triforce of ****

Idk prolly works against others too

I don't think Wolf ***** Link the way he beats Ganon and Zelda.

I'd say Bowser is your easiest MU
- Followed by C.Falcon, then Ganon.

But that's just me..

Ganon can't beat a Bair wall.

Fh Bair>FF Bair>Fsmash works on him so much because he's so big and sucha tall target to hit. This combo might as well be named the "Anti-Triforce combo".

 

[satowolf]

All Bowser really has are tilts, koopa hopping<3, uair, fair and grab releases.
his bair can be legit after a koopa hop since it'll become slightly lagless a little after the animation.

I also have 0 experience with the Koopa King

 

[Choice]

I don't think Wolf ***** Link the way he beats Ganon and Zelda.

wolf cant **** link. hylian shield is freakin beast =/

 

[Goldenadept]

a simple metal shield that manages to fend off space lazers is pretty ****

 

[Z1GMA]

Headshot Shieldstab ftw.